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Reply #30 posted 06/13/19 5:26am

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It's not a bad interview, it feels like a 'release' it also feels almost like this just happened last month or last week. Like the emotions are still in 1982-1989

I know it has to be exhausting.

I'm always hmmm about male interviewers who like to bring up the W1 vs W2 issues.
Why would they even need to post that picture of Prince & Susannah.

This is the stuff that is really tiring for me.

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Reply #31 posted 06/13/19 7:10am

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:-(Oh wow!

Shockadelica9 said:

nelcp777 said:

Liike physically abusive or verbally?

Both

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Reply #32 posted 06/13/19 9:09am

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Shockadelica9 said:

nelcp777 said:

Liike physically abusive or verbally?

Both


That's a lie - she did not specify in what way he was abusive. This is a translation of that section:

Has he been abusive to me? Yes. But Prince used to give me these incredible gifts. Just after doing something horrible. When he offered me a car after "Purple Rain" I always wondered what was going to happen, what will fall on my head, which shoe will fly in the air. What will he ask me or do me in exchange? When you loved Prince, it had a cost. Everything had a cost. And you had to be ready to give everything, even your fucking dignity. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just human relations, and we all want a guy like Prince in our lives.

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Reply #33 posted 06/13/19 9:58am

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On her FB prior she did say something about him breaking her arm

And prior to 2016 when that Sinead OConnor piece came out about Prince (and I believe Arsenio Hall), Jill Jones co-signed it with some details. But she then deleted them later.

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I can see Prince throwing a shoe though, I don't know why I can see that.

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Reply #34 posted 06/13/19 10:08am

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Reply #35 posted 06/13/19 10:19am

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Genesia said:



Shockadelica9 said:


nelcp777 said:


Liike physically abusive or verbally?



Both


That's a lie - she did not specify in what way he was abusive. This is a translation of that section:



Has he been abusive to me? Yes. But Prince used to give me these incredible gifts. Just after doing something horrible. When he offered me a car after "Purple Rain" I always wondered what was going to happen, what will fall on my head, which shoe will fly in the air. What will he ask me or do me in exchange? When you loved Prince, it had a cost. Everything had a cost. And you had to be ready to give everything, even your fucking dignity. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just human relations, and we all want a guy like Prince in our lives.


I speak french and there are no translation errors...this quote above is self explanatory
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Reply #36 posted 06/13/19 10:19am

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OldFriends4Sale said:


On her FB prior she did say something about him breaking her arm


And prior to 2016 when that Sinead OConnor piece came out about Prince (and I believe Arsenio Hall), Jill Jones co-signed it with some details. But she then deleted them later.


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I can see Prince throwing a shoe though, I don't know why I can see that.


Yep i remember those post
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Reply #37 posted 06/13/19 10:52am

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Shockadelica9 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

On her FB prior she did say something about him breaking her arm

And prior to 2016 when that Sinead OConnor piece came out about Prince (and I believe Arsenio Hall), Jill Jones co-signed it with some details. But she then deleted them later.

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I can see Prince throwing a shoe though, I don't know why I can see that.

Yep i remember those post

So Prince was like Ike Turner? I mean this is contradictory to Prince praising/respecting women. I am at a loss for words on this.

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Reply #38 posted 06/13/19 11:51am

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nelcp777 said:

Shockadelica9 said:

OldFriends4Sale said: Yep i remember those post

So Prince was like Ike Turner? I mean this is contradictory to Prince praising/respecting women. I am at a loss for words on this.

Nothing is confirmed,

But even if, it would be nothing like Ike Turner, not even remotely close to that

Didn't Prince & Morris get into a fist fight in 1983?

And he and Miko almost came to blows in 1990

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Reply #39 posted 06/13/19 2:15pm

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Hopefully the uber-woke spaces of the internet don't catch onto any hints about abuse. Prince's legacy could easily be rewritten into that of a statutory rapist who slept with underage girls and violated women emotionally and physically.

The press are a bunch of vultures - it's depressing.

[Edited 6/13/19 14:16pm]

A certain kind of mellow.
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Reply #40 posted 06/13/19 2:31pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



nelcp777 said:




Shockadelica9 said:


OldFriends4Sale said: Yep i remember those post

So Prince was like Ike Turner? I mean this is contradictory to Prince praising/respecting women. I am at a loss for words on this.




Nothing is confirmed,



But even if, it would be nothing like Ike Turner, not even remotely close to that



Didn't Prince & Morris get into a fist fight in 1983?



And he and Miko almost came to blows in 1990


But those are two guys! This is a boyfriend and girlfriend situation
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Reply #41 posted 06/13/19 2:55pm

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Shockadelica9 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Nothing is confirmed,

But even if, it would be nothing like Ike Turner, not even remotely close to that

Didn't Prince & Morris get into a fist fight in 1983?

And he and Miko almost came to blows in 1990

But those are two guys! This is a boyfriend and girlfriend situation

I know, and Ike & Tina were married, Prince wasn't married to Jill or Sinead(nor dated her) who Jill cosigned. And we don't know what time this allegedly happened nor if it was a time they were actually 'boyfriend/girlfriend'.

He doesn't have to be in a romantic situation to respond by throwing a shoe though.

But nothing outside of Morris that I know of exhibited him being violent toward anyone, especially his 'lovers'

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Reply #42 posted 06/13/19 4:07pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

On her FB prior she did say something about him breaking her arm

And prior to 2016 when that Sinead OConnor piece came out about Prince (and I believe Arsenio Hall), Jill Jones co-signed it with some details. But she then deleted them later.

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I can see Prince throwing a shoe though, I don't know why I can see that.

Yep, she sure did.

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Reply #43 posted 06/13/19 6:59pm

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JJ loves prince and I'm so glad they reconciled their relationship ❤❤
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Reply #44 posted 06/13/19 9:12pm

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JJ loves prince and I'm so glad they reconciled their relationship ❤❤



According to Jill, true statement.

But she didnt get a phone call requesting to put money into her account.


Seriously though, I like Jill even though I dont always agree with her, which is a rarity among his associates.

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Reply #45 posted 06/14/19 5:25am

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sad to think that he could be physically abusive. I think we are all more than aware that he was physcologically abusive to many who worked with him, lovers etc. Only a matter of time before more gets out I guess?

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Reply #46 posted 06/14/19 6:05am

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I know this isn't new news, but I had no idea she is Berry Gordy's step-niece.

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Reply #47 posted 06/14/19 7:37am

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

sad to think that he could be physically abusive. I think we are all more than aware that he was physcologically abusive to many who worked with him, lovers etc. Only a matter of time before more gets out I guess?

I doubt there will be more. Jill still hasn't come out with it. If she was more direct about it, the way she goes after Susannah, maybe. And no details. Was it the result of an accident. Was she fighting Prince etc And the Sinead OConner stuff I don't trust. No one else has ever said anything about him being physically violent toward them.

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Reply #48 posted 06/14/19 1:21pm

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hoho, some serious shit stirring in there! hah lol Jill interviews are always great, I wish her album would get a rerelease, even in 2019 it deserves more exposure.


I'm still with Alan Leeds re: the Saturday Night Live 2014 performance though.


[Edited 6/11/19 1:59am]



What was his comment on the SNL performance?
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Reply #49 posted 06/14/19 3:01pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

sad to think that he could be physically abusive. I think we are all more than aware that he was physcologically abusive to many who worked with him, lovers etc. Only a matter of time before more gets out I guess?

I doubt there will be more. Jill still hasn't come out with it. If she was more direct about it, the way she goes after Susannah, maybe. And no details. Was it the result of an accident. Was she fighting Prince etc And the Sinead OConner stuff I don't trust. No one else has ever said anything about him being physically violent toward them.

I bet if JJ was to tell all, we'd be flabbergasted. She probably hasn't attempted to skim the surface, she was in his camp for years, you know she's got stories that haven't been told.

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Reply #50 posted 06/14/19 5:04pm

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PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I doubt there will be more. Jill still hasn't come out with it. If she was more direct about it, the way she goes after Susannah, maybe. And no details. Was it the result of an accident. Was she fighting Prince etc And the Sinead OConner stuff I don't trust. No one else has ever said anything about him being physically violent toward them.

I bet if JJ was to tell all, we'd be flabbergasted. She probably hasn't attempted to skim the surface, she was in his camp for years, you know she's got stories that haven't been told.

I don't think I would be 'flabbergasted' I know she was in the camp for years. But a lot of those years were also spent away from Prince in Europe, as she talks about in a few of these interviews. And those periods are partially why she and Prince went their seperate ways. I mean in a lot of ways, I'm glad she had that time, to break from what 'was not' happening for her in the Prince camp and relationship.

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She grew outside the box.

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I think if there is much more 'wow' we would have heard it from others who were also there for just as many years. And I think hearing more would fall under 'smear'. What would really be the purpose outside of that.

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When Prince talked about having Big Chick toss Vanity in the pool(something a lot of people do at the pool) some people were shocked to hear that. I wasn't. Look what happened to Jesse during the food fight. That was probably more 'shocking' but at the same time, when young guy get to going at it, it's not so 'shocking' Jesse was just more affect by being handcuffed and taunted.

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I don't think I really want to hear more 'stories'. Especially about any sexual escapades. Her husband(the man who actually put her first and married her) doesn't need any more of that.

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And I'm tired of the female issues stories. But I am always wondering why she never considers Sheila E as she does Susannah. Especially in that a lot of songs that she thought would be hers, went to Sheila.

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Reply #51 posted 06/14/19 5:08pm

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PRNelson said:

jaawwnn said:

hoho, some serious shit stirring in there! hah lol Jill interviews are always great, I wish her album would get a rerelease, even in 2019 it deserves more exposure.


I'm still with Alan Leeds re: the Saturday Night Live 2014 performance though.

[Edited 6/11/19 1:59am]

What was his comment on the SNL performance?

Yes, he said something about all the 'extra' of that show.

Don't get me wrong, I love 'Princed out Prince' I was so tired of the conservative look, the suites etc And I'm not saying I'm agreeing with Alan, I would never want to see Prince 'regular' jeans and a tshirt with his guitar. That's not Prince, but when I first saw the show, after hearing AOA, I did think it might have been a little much, in the shows presentation. If it was a Prince concert or at Paisley Park/First Avenue it woulld have been different.

Image result for prince snl 2014

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Reply #52 posted 06/14/19 5:11pm

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Shockadelica9 said:

JJ loves prince and I'm so glad they reconciled their relationship ❤❤

sadly I still feel that 'unrequited' vibe. I'm glad she was able to break away when she did.

But she does care for Prince. Too bad it took Vanities death 30yr later for these two 'deep' souls to bury the hatchet.

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Reply #53 posted 06/17/19 8:44am

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Genesia said:

Shockadelica9 said:

nelcp777 said:


That's a lie - she did not specify in what way he was abusive. This is a translation of that section:

Has he been abusive to me? Yes. But Prince used to give me these incredible gifts. Just after doing something horrible. When he offered me a car after "Purple Rain" I always wondered what was going to happen, what will fall on my head, which shoe will fly in the air. What will he ask me or do me in exchange? When you loved Prince, it had a cost. Everything had a cost. And you had to be ready to give everything, even your fucking dignity. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just human relations, and we all want a guy like Prince in our lives.

I AM RESPONDING TO GENESIA'S COMMENT:

I like what you are saying Genesia. Jill understood that he was a very controlling guy and she liked that. She understood that he would make demands of her. Jill is wrong, not all women want to be the one that does all the jumping, but clearly she liked it. He was a pretty dominant person in all aspects of his life and looking back, most of his prodigies, from the 16 year olds to the 34 year old Bria, seemed to be quite maleable.

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Reply #54 posted 06/17/19 8:47am

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Genesia said:

Y'know...Jill's said some rather odd things over the years (maybe she was just being cryptic or misspoke, at times), but I truly believe she may be the most intelligent and grounded of the lot.

I agree with you again on this. She is not living in a Purple Haze.

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Reply #55 posted 06/17/19 8:55am

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Shockadelica9 said:

nelcp777 said:

Liike physically abusive or verbally?

Both

This is the hard part.

You do get it that some people like that kind of stuff??? From her other remarks she may be one of those people; someone that needs that extra harshness to push themselves further. I am not here to tell people what is right or wrong, but definitely Prince was very attractive to women who often likeed to be told what to wear, how to do their hair, etc.

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Reply #56 posted 06/17/19 12:17pm

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This is the hard part.

You do get it that some people like that kind of stuff??? From her other remarks she may be one of those people; someone that needs that extra harshness to push themselves further. I am not here to tell people what is right or wrong, but definitely Prince was very attractive to women who often likeed to be told what to wear, how to do their hair, etc.


It isn't even a matter of someone "liking" it. How do you judge what is abuse and what isn't - especially if you weren't there? How many incidents make an "abusive relationship"? I will take Jill's word for it that there were times when Prince's behavior was abusive as far as she was concerned. But since Prince is no longer here to defend himself (and, frankly, wouldn't even if he were still alive), I am not willing to condemn behavior which can't be corroborated.


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Reply #57 posted 06/17/19 7:04pm

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Is it just me or does jill sometimes come across like a pretentious mean girl. I mean does susannah ever mention her in interviews???
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Reply #58 posted 06/19/19 5:58am

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Shockadelica9 said:

Is it just me or does jill sometimes come across like a pretentious mean girl. I mean does susannah ever mention her in interviews???

never read anything said bad about Jill

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Reply #59 posted 06/20/19 7:53am

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Is it just me or does jill sometimes come across like a pretentious mean girl. I mean does susannah ever mention her in interviews???

I also find it amazing that she think Susannah was rude to her...um, you were shagging her fiance!

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