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Reply #210 posted 03/29/19 4:59pm

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[Move on....... this topic is about a book - stay on topic please]

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Reply #211 posted 03/29/19 6:58pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

rdhull said:

Are you 12?

I started working in the entertainment industry at TWELVE.

So there....rolleyes

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Reply #212 posted 03/29/19 9:25pm

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Kim is going to be in MN for a week during Celebration promoting her book. Paisley 5 n dime are having an “authors” event on Wednesday with Kim, Allen Beaulieu, Duane Tudahl any others. Just confirmed today Steve Parke will also be there. Should be interesting!
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Reply #213 posted 03/29/19 10:45pm

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purplemist7777 said:

Kim is going to be in MN for a week during Celebration promoting her book. Paisley 5 n dime are having an “authors” event on Wednesday with Kim, Allen Beaulieu, Duane Tudahl any others. Just confirmed today Steve Parke will also be there. Should be interesting!



lol lol Could be very interesting between these two given what's gone on.

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Reply #214 posted 03/31/19 9:13am

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Kim is going to be in MN for a week during Celebration promoting her book. Paisley 5 n dime are having an “authors” event on Wednesday with Kim, Allen Beaulieu, Duane Tudahl any others. Just confirmed today Steve Parke will also be there. Should be interesting!

I wanted to go to this but it seems to be sold out.

I just want to see the authors (earlier in the day); wonder if there is a way to just do that. (currently says ticketholders only)

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Reply #215 posted 03/31/19 6:01pm

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Way cool that they will have an authors event I would like to be there. In regards to her book and others, we all know books will be written and written for years. And they should be, some of these people had a unique experience knowing Prince closely and working with Prince. It is their story to share and their time to do it. Prince is at peace now and doesnt care about these mundane issues boggling us humans down as far as people pleasing, not pissing people off, the ststus quo, etc...

I for one have said before and I will say it again, I will purchase her book. I do feel she will have some unique insight into Prince's day to day grind and mind set. In that hair-stylist chair people can seem to let their hair down so to speak and talk more freely. Also, you can show some emotions that you may not intend to show. Like if he got a call or someone came in during getting his hair did, I am sure Kim witnessed attitude changes, heard some things from him and others. I do respect Kim's grind and feel she has been respectful to Prince. That is at least my perspective.
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Reply #216 posted 03/31/19 7:18pm

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AnnaStesia10 said:

Way cool that they will have an authors event I would like to be there. In regards to her book and others, we all know books will be written and written for years. And they should be, some of these people had a unique experience knowing Prince closely and working with Prince. It is their story to share and their time to do it. Prince is at peace now and doesnt care about these mundane issues boggling us humans down as far as people pleasing, not pissing people off, the ststus quo, etc... I for one have said before and I will say it again, I will purchase her book. I do feel she will have some unique insight into Prince's day to day grind and mind set. In that hair-stylist chair people can seem to let their hair down so to speak and talk more freely. Also, you can show some emotions that you may not intend to show. Like if he got a call or someone came in during getting his hair did, I am sure Kim witnessed attitude changes, heard some things from him and others. I do respect Kim's grind and feel she has been respectful to Prince. That is at least my perspective.

That event is sold out.

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Reply #217 posted 04/01/19 9:45am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

I started working in the entertainment industry at TWELVE.

So there....rolleyes

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[Edited 3/29/19 18:59pm]

So there rdhull - lol nana

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Reply #218 posted 04/01/19 11:37am

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Empress said:



rdhull said:




ChocolateBox3121 said:



I started working in the entertainment industry at TWELVE.


So there....rolleyes



lol


[Edited 3/29/19 18:59pm]



So there rdhull - lol nana


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Reply #219 posted 04/03/19 8:11am

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Kim is going to be in MN for a week during Celebration promoting her book. Paisley 5 n dime are having an “authors” event on Wednesday with Kim, Allen Beaulieu, Duane Tudahl any others. Just confirmed today Steve Parke will also be there. Should be interesting!


Sounds fabulous. I wish they would sell video of these symposia after the fact. Damn. The estate could improve in so many ways.
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Reply #220 posted 04/03/19 8:14am

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Just hopped on this thread again since 4/16 is getting closer. Does it still seem as though the book will be ready then? I want to purchase online but want to be sure I’ll get a book if I buy one.
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Reply #221 posted 04/03/19 2:48pm

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purplemist7777 said:

Kim is going to be in MN for a week during Celebration promoting her book. Paisley 5 n dime are having an “authors” event on Wednesday with Kim, Allen Beaulieu, Duane Tudahl any others. Just confirmed today Steve Parke will also be there. Should be interesting!

Maybe Kim will try to sell the hair and comb set while she's promoting her book confused razz eek

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Couldn't resist... biggrin

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Reply #222 posted 04/03/19 5:51pm

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violetcrush said:

purplemist7777 said:

Kim is going to be in MN for a week during Celebration promoting her book. Paisley 5 n dime are having an “authors” event on Wednesday with Kim, Allen Beaulieu, Duane Tudahl any others. Just confirmed today Steve Parke will also be there. Should be interesting!

Maybe Kim will try to sell the hair and comb set while she's promoting her book confused razz eek

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Couldn't resist... biggrin

lol Maybe some more socks out of the package that looked like they were never worn. lol

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Reply #223 posted 04/03/19 6:59pm

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I just pre-ordered. Her website says it will ship this week. Definitely looking forward to reading!
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Reply #224 posted 04/03/19 7:25pm

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I want to know if she ever burnt the back of his head with a hotcomb.

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Reply #225 posted 04/03/19 7:47pm

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I want to know if she ever burnt the back of his head with a hotcomb.


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Reply #226 posted 04/04/19 4:48am

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PennyPurple said:



violetcrush said:




purplemist7777 said:


Kim is going to be in MN for a week during Celebration promoting her book. Paisley 5 n dime are having an “authors” event on Wednesday with Kim, Allen Beaulieu, Duane Tudahl any others. Just confirmed today Steve Parke will also be there. Should be interesting!


Maybe Kim will try to sell the hair and comb set while she's promoting her book confused razz eek


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Couldn't resist... biggrin



lol Maybe some more socks out of the package that looked like they were never worn. lol


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Reply #227 posted 04/04/19 8:35am

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violetcrush said:

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It is not just Prince that would be talking.

My honest guess, and face it I never met the man but I have a clue how women act. The muses know that Kim and Shelby and Rosie were not competition. They all have that mother figure/ fairy godmother sort of way about them. Slightly more matronly looking, the Auntie that might give yuo councel on why Prince is suddenly being so distact.

" what has he said to you about me; you can be honest?"

"Do you think he has lost interest in me?"

"Has he said anything about anybody else?"

My guess is that Prince was gifted at building confidence in these muses on one hand and on the other hand making them deeply insecure as to where they stood with him.

The whole Jehovah's Witness thing with him was too much. He got Manuela to join and then poor Bria. I think Bria was utterly convinced that Prince would indeed ask her to marry him by 2010. In my opinion that is not because she is delusional but because he said things to lead her on.

He was a brilliant man who made stupid mistakes such as not writing a will. He didn't save money by micromanaging his music, in the end he lost money by missing opportunities to get his old stuff out to a new crowd while he was alive!

At least one book about the man that isn't written by a woman who thinks of him as her "soulmate' would be nice.

You are making the assumption that he confided in Kim B, Shelby and/or Rosie Gaines about his very personal feelings. I really do not think he did that. I do agree that Prince was a master manipulator when it came to his women/muses - and the fact that they were typically much younger only added to his ability to control them. However, I don't see him sitting around talking to his platonic band mates or hairdresser about his plans for the women and/or his feelings about them.

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Someone like Ruth Arzate, who was his personal assistant for many years in the 2000's would be a great resource to find out how much he really shared about his personal life. From the few that she has told so far, it does not seem that he revealed too much.

Not I am not making the assumption that Prince confided in them as if they were his psychologist. Sorry if I gave that impression. These are people that saw him day in and day out. They were around him and his entourage. Given that all the ones that I mentioned were around for a decent length of time they saw and heard things. As you get older you see what insecure people do. If they are feeling somehow slighted they ask for reassurance from someone else that is not competition. If I wrote a book about Prince myself I would spend more time questioning those that were never a love interest than I would with those that were.

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Reply #228 posted 04/04/19 8:38am

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pinkcashmere23 said:

Deadflow3r said:

It is not just Prince that would be talking.

My honest guess, and face it I never met the man but I have a clue how women act. The muses know that Kim and Shelby and Rosie were not competition. They all have that mother figure/ fairy godmother sort of way about them. Slightly more matronly looking, the Auntie that might give yuo councel on why Prince is suddenly being so distact.

" what has he said to you about me; you can be honest?"

"Do you think he has lost interest in me?"

"Has he said anything about anybody else?"

My guess is that Prince was gifted at building confidence in these muses on one hand and on the other hand making them deeply insecure as to where they stood with him.

The whole Jehovah's Witness thing with him was too much. He got Manuela to join and then poor Bria. I think Bria was utterly convinced that Prince would indeed ask her to marry him by 2010. In my opinion that is not because she is delusional but because he said things to lead her on.

He was a brilliant man who made stupid mistakes such as not writing a will. He didn't save money by micromanaging his music, in the end he lost money by missing opportunities to get his old stuff out to a new crowd while he was alive!

At least one book about the man that isn't written by a woman who thinks of him as her "soulmate' would be nice.

Good point. Kim seems to have a fondness for a few of the women in his life so I wonder if she may also be a bit biased towards them. I also wonder if she sought to get permisssion to mention the women in the book if she did. She seems friendly with Mayte so I think there's a good chance she may be aware of what she may have shared about her. I just saw a post on FB from last year where some fans were speculating about RNRLA and one said they thought it was about Prince and Andy and another said they agreed but that they should ask Kim to be sure. She replied that "it is indeed" so it makes me wonder if one or the other shared that info with her. She appeared to be very certain with her reply so she has no problem sharing about things like that. I doubt that Prince would want her putting anything too personal out there so I would hope she wouldn't reveal things that he may have told her in confidence. In the talks she has done she's mainly shared funny stories that happened while on the road and from what she has said,the book will be similar. I would prefer a book like that rather than her sharing gossip about his romantic relationships.

Unless the book will be released as fiction, for legal reasons she will most likely be pretty careful.

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Reply #229 posted 04/04/19 8:47am

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Krystalkisses said:

violetcrush said:
Yes, many stories of his humor and how he loved to laugh and loved when people made him laugh. However, it seems that would depend on his mood. Most have said he was a “mixed bag” and you never knew what you were going to get from him from one day to the next.
I remember Morris Hayes saying Prince seriously had like 5 personalities. Each day you weren't sure who was gonna show up. I believe that!

I would still love him and so would many loyal fans if a book was written that was honest about this. I want an honest book. A book that admits that Genius often makes you diffent. A book that truly lets you see why people felt that they would follow him to the perverbial end of the Earth and then suddenly they are nowhere in his lfe. I want a complicated book about a brilliant and complicated man. Yup, that is a lot to ask.

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Reply #230 posted 04/04/19 4:42pm

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Krystalkisses said:


violetcrush said:
Yes, many stories of his humor and how he loved to laugh and loved when people made him laugh. However, it seems that would depend on his mood. Most have said he was a “mixed bag” and you never knew what you were going to get from him from one day to the next.

I remember Morris Hayes saying Prince seriously had like 5 personalities. Each day you weren't sure who was gonna show up. I believe that!


I would still love him and so would many loyal fans if a book was written that was honest about this. I want an honest book. A book that admits that Genius often makes you diffent. A book that truly lets you see why people felt that they would follow him to the perverbial end of the Earth and then suddenly they are nowhere in his lfe. I want a complicated book about a brilliant and complicated man. Yup, that is a lot to ask.


I just don’t think he was that open and direct about his feelings. As Susannah stated in her lengthy discussion about their serious relationship - he was not able to be honest about his feelings or vulnerable in any way. All of those feelings came out in his music and not through regular/normal communication. She said he could not communicate like most can in a relationship. So, if he could not share his feelings with someone closest to him I doubt that he was sharing too much with his associates.
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I do think he may have confided in some men who were with him for many years - Roy Bennett became a trusted friend and he worked with him for a long time. Hans Martin Buff, his Engineer for several years, stated there are some conversations he had with Prince that he will take to his grave - so that implies he was told some personal things. If so, he’s a very loyal friend/associate.
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Reply #231 posted 04/04/19 5:20pm

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I think we'd all be waiting til hell freezes over if we're expecting one person who fully understood the deep inner workings of his mind or his deepest feelings about anything. Maybe that person doesn't exist, has already passed or has zero desire to be torn to shreds by his loyalists fans. All I'm hoping for is different perspectives of observations and some stories about moments in the day of. And some family history which only a handful, if that, could provide. Who he loved the most and stuff like that I'm sure went with him. Now if he kept journals which really haven't been confirmed imo, its possible a decade or 2 from now they'll come out if not destroyed.
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Reply #232 posted 04/04/19 9:16pm

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Deadflow3r said:



Krystalkisses said:


violetcrush said:
Yes, many stories of his humor and how he loved to laugh and loved when people made him laugh. However, it seems that would depend on his mood. Most have said he was a “mixed bag” and you never knew what you were going to get from him from one day to the next.

I remember Morris Hayes saying Prince seriously had like 5 personalities. Each day you weren't sure who was gonna show up. I believe that!


I would still love him and so would many loyal fans if a book was written that was honest about this. I want an honest book. A book that admits that Genius often makes you diffent. A book that truly lets you see why people felt that they would follow him to the perverbial end of the Earth and then suddenly they are nowhere in his lfe. I want a complicated book about a brilliant and complicated man. Yup, that is a lot to ask.



I would love that too but we may never get that. Not to sound too metaphysical but I guess your intuition or third eye already knows much about him in a strange way...why were you attracted to him, what about him resonated with you, what does your gut say? I know that is "out there" but there is so much that flys under the conscious human mind and so much we can't access but feelings/dreams/ epifany can give us valuable information. I think what we fans are hungry for is actually confirmation of our suspicions, hunches, and validation as to why Prince meant so much to each of us.
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Reply #233 posted 04/04/19 9:27pm

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Reply #234 posted 04/04/19 9:52pm

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[Off topic snip - luv4u]



[Stay on topic please, this is about Kim Berry's book]

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Reply #235 posted 04/06/19 6:03am

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I think we'd all be waiting til hell freezes over if we're expecting one person who fully understood the deep inner workings of his mind or his deepest feelings about anything. Maybe that person doesn't exist, has already passed or has zero desire to be torn to shreds by his loyalists fans. All I'm hoping for is different perspectives of observations and some stories about moments in the day of. And some family history which only a handful, if that, could provide. Who he loved the most and stuff like that I'm sure went with him. Now if he kept journals which really haven't been confirmed imo, its possible a decade or 2 from now they'll come out if not destroyed.

Yes, I agree. I think certain people who knew him personally probably only saw one side of him, and that may not have even been a truly genuine side. I think many saw his humorous side, as we've heard stories from various associates/girlfriends/friends about how he loved to joke around, and some also saw his moodier side.

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I think observations about Prince from those who were around him would be good, but still may not be an accurate portrayal of this real thoughts or feelings. As he wrote in his song Breakdown "baby baby, see there's a door that you can walk through, where there used to be a wall..." He's admitting his past inability to be open in a relationship.

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I have listened to most of the Piano and Microphone shows, and he was extremely humble during those shows, nostalgic, and was talking about some aspects of his life. At the first show at PP he was going through the beginning of his story through the songs along with some dialogue. The first group of songs were in sequential order by time frame.

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It is frustrating that there has been no news about his Memoir being released. Although only 50 pages, it may provide some additional insight into his deeper feelings. Or, it could be completely cryptic, which was his ususal style. I still go by the songs to get a better idea of how he was thinking and feeling at various times. He had stated on more than one occasion that if you want to know about his life listen to his songs, because it's all there.

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Reply #236 posted 04/06/19 11:56am

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onlyforaminute said:


I think we'd all be waiting til hell freezes over if we're expecting one person who fully understood the deep inner workings of his mind or his deepest feelings about anything. Maybe that person doesn't exist, has already passed or has zero desire to be torn to shreds by his loyalists fans. All I'm hoping for is different perspectives of observations and some stories about moments in the day of. And some family history which only a handful, if that, could provide. Who he loved the most and stuff like that I'm sure went with him. Now if he kept journals which really haven't been confirmed imo, its possible a decade or 2 from now they'll come out if not destroyed.


Yes, I agree. I think certain people who knew him personally probably only saw one side of him, and that may not have even been a truly genuine side. I think many saw his humorous side, as we've heard stories from various associates/girlfriends/friends about how he loved to joke around, and some also saw his moodier side.


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I think observations about Prince from those who were around him would be good, but still may not be an accurate portrayal of this real thoughts or feelings. As he wrote in his song Breakdown "baby baby, see there's a door that you can walk through, where there used to be a wall..." He's admitting his past inability to be open in a relationship.


*


I have listened to most of the Piano and Microphone shows, and he was extremely humble during those shows, nostalgic, and was talking about some aspects of his life. At the first show at PP he was going through the beginning of his story through the songs along with some dialogue. The first group of songs were in sequential order by time frame.


*


It is frustrating that there has been no news about his Memoir being released. Although only 50 pages, it may provide some additional insight into his deeper feelings. Or, it could be completely cryptic, which was his ususal style. I still go by the songs to get a better idea of how he was thinking and feeling at various times. He had stated on more than one occasion that if you want to know about his life listen to his songs, because it's all there.




Speaking of his memoir, that confuses the hell outta me. That is the one item unilaterally all his fans are chomping at the bit for, i don't remember seeing one person who has been against its release but yet nothing official. It had a publisher, Its owned by P which the Estate controls. Unless there really was no 50 pages to begin with I dont think it would take a genius marketer to fluff it up with childhood, timeline pix handwritten bits and put it on out. Thats damned near the holy grail right now
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Reply #237 posted 04/06/19 2:29pm

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I gotta say I don't care one way or the other if those fifty pages ever see the light of day. Those fifty pages are a project he started and never finished. If he had lived he might have gone back and tossed out those pages. Just not that interested.
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Reply #238 posted 04/07/19 1:35am

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onlyforaminute said:

violetcrush said:



onlyforaminute said:


I think we'd all be waiting til hell freezes over if we're expecting one person who fully understood the deep inner workings of his mind or his deepest feelings about anything. Maybe that person doesn't exist, has already passed or has zero desire to be torn to shreds by his loyalists fans. All I'm hoping for is different perspectives of observations and some stories about moments in the day of. And some family history which only a handful, if that, could provide. Who he loved the most and stuff like that I'm sure went with him. Now if he kept journals which really haven't been confirmed imo, its possible a decade or 2 from now they'll come out if not destroyed.


Yes, I agree. I think certain people who knew him personally probably only saw one side of him, and that may not have even been a truly genuine side. I think many saw his humorous side, as we've heard stories from various associates/girlfriends/friends about how he loved to joke around, and some also saw his moodier side.


*


I think observations about Prince from those who were around him would be good, but still may not be an accurate portrayal of this real thoughts or feelings. As he wrote in his song Breakdown "baby baby, see there's a door that you can walk through, where there used to be a wall..." He's admitting his past inability to be open in a relationship.


*


I have listened to most of the Piano and Microphone shows, and he was extremely humble during those shows, nostalgic, and was talking about some aspects of his life. At the first show at PP he was going through the beginning of his story through the songs along with some dialogue. The first group of songs were in sequential order by time frame.


*


It is frustrating that there has been no news about his Memoir being released. Although only 50 pages, it may provide some additional insight into his deeper feelings. Or, it could be completely cryptic, which was his ususal style. I still go by the songs to get a better idea of how he was thinking and feeling at various times. He had stated on more than one occasion that if you want to know about his life listen to his songs, because it's all there.




Speaking of his memoir, that confuses the hell outta me. That is the one item unilaterally all his fans are chomping at the bit for, i don't remember seeing one person who has been against its release but yet nothing official. It had a publisher, Its owned by P which the Estate controls. Unless there really was no 50 pages to begin with I dont think it would take a genius marketer to fluff it up with childhood, timeline pix handwritten bits and put it on out. Thats damned near the holy grail right now

No thanks. A man who outright lied to feed mystery would have never written a decent bio. Most autobiographies are very flawed and prince was so funny about his business that most of his people are still not talking.
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Reply #239 posted 04/07/19 2:57am

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I seem to remember he was asking Tyka about their family's geneology and migration from Louisiana.

This gave me the impression it may have been more factual/historical than confessional.I doubt there were many intimacies shared in those initial 50 pages.

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