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Reply #180 posted 03/28/19 4:46pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:



rogifan said:


violetcrush said:



You are making the assumption that he confided in Kim B, Shelby and/or Rosie Gaines about his very personal feelings. I really do not think he did that. I do agree that Prince was a master manipulator when it came to his women/muses - and the fact that they were typically much younger only added to his ability to control them. However, I don't see him sitting around talking to his platonic band mates or hairdresser about his plans for the women and/or his feelings about them.


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Someone like Ruth Arzate, who was his personal assistant for many years in the 2000's would be a great resource to find out how much he really shared about his personal life. From the few that she has told so far, it does not seem that he revealed too much.



How would any of us know? Also it seems people’s biases come into play in terms of who they believe and who the don’t. The problem with Kim is she can’t seem to get her timelines straight. One minute she joined during the D&P era, the next she was around during Lovesexy/GB.

Kim has admitted more than once that she wasn't a fan of Prince's(r.i.p.) music. So it's quite possible that she could get the time periods mixed up with his music & when she started doing his hair. Since she could care less if it was the Lovesexy period or Diamonds & Pearls period. Unlike me who can name each album time period in my sleep. Non fans could care less. To me it's really no big deal. It's still well over 20 years. She was fresh out of High School when she started working for him. Plus she was already part of the crew before that by dating Prince's(r.i.p.) bodyguard. Also she was the LONGEST hairdresser he had. Which qualifies her to know A LOT. Men & woman of a certain ethnicity share a lot with their hairdressers it's a culture thing.



All of U are just trying to sabotage her book. But it's not going to happem. It'll be a TOP seller. Especially when Ellen,Oprah & Jimmy Fallon interview her.





Stop saying "she COULD care less" when you really mean the opposite of that.

Also, I can absolutely guarantee that she will not be on The Tonight Show promoting this book.
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Reply #181 posted 03/28/19 4:51pm

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All of U are just trying to sabotage her book. But it's not going to happem. It'll be a TOP seller. Especially when Ellen,Oprah & Jimmy Fallon interview her.

go siddown somewhere, you sound ridiculous

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #182 posted 03/28/19 4:52pm

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EmmaMcG said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Kim has admitted more than once that she wasn't a fan of Prince's(r.i.p.) music. So it's quite possible that she could get the time periods mixed up with his music & when she started doing his hair. Since she could care less if it was the Lovesexy period or Diamonds & Pearls period. Unlike me who can name each album time period in my sleep. Non fans could care less. To me it's really no big deal. It's still well over 20 years. She was fresh out of High School when she started working for him. Plus she was already part of the crew before that by dating Prince's(r.i.p.) bodyguard. Also she was the LONGEST hairdresser he had. Which qualifies her to know A LOT. Men & woman of a certain ethnicity share a lot with their hairdressers it's a culture thing.

All of U are just trying to sabotage her book. But it's not going to happem. It'll be a TOP seller. Especially when Ellen,Oprah & Jimmy Fallon interview her.

Stop saying "she COULD care less" when you really mean the opposite of that. Also, I can absolutely guarantee that she will not be on The Tonight Show promoting this book.

lol I´m still undecided whether I find "I could care less" or " I should of bought some milk." more irritating.

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Reply #183 posted 03/28/19 4:59pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

All of U are just trying to sabotage her book. But it's not going to happem. It'll be a TOP seller. Especially when Ellen,Oprah & Jimmy Fallon interview her.



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Reply #184 posted 03/28/19 5:03pm

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We need a bet taking thread.

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Reply #185 posted 03/28/19 5:07pm

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onlyforaminute said:

We need a bet taking thread.


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Reply #186 posted 03/28/19 5:08pm

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Genesia said:



violetcrush said:




rogifan said:


violetcrush said: Are women typically referred to as gay? Do we know if Kim was the only hairdresser he had from the 90s forward?


The term is commonly used for both men and women these days. Not that "lesbian" is never used, but I guess it's just an easier word to describe homosexuality whether male or female.


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Lisa discussing her sexuality and being a member of the Revolution for Out Magazine in 2009:


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Lisa: "With Prince and the Revolution, I think that it was just taken for granted that we were supposed to be the gay reps in the band. [Laughs] The blacks, the whites, the gays. And people would say, Gee, do you think this lesbian thing is going to work for them? [Everyone laughs] So, after the band kind of split up, the record labels would be like, You need to be wearing fur coats and sitting on motorcycles and long fingernails . . ."


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According to Lisa, Prince was "like a fancy lesbian."


Gay people think everyone is secretly gay.

What Lisa meant by that comment is that he was a very feminine man who loved women. She was not saying he was secretly gay. That would be impossible.
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Reply #187 posted 03/28/19 5:11pm

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rdhull said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

All of U are just trying to sabotage her book. But it's not going to happem. It'll be a TOP seller. Especially when Ellen,Oprah & Jimmy Fallon interview her.

go siddown somewhere, you sound ridiculous

Make Me!!!


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Reply #188 posted 03/28/19 5:13pm

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rdhull said:

go siddown somewhere, you sound ridiculous

Make Me!!!


Are you 12?

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Reply #189 posted 03/28/19 5:29pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

rogifan said:

violetcrush said: How would any of us know? Also it seems people’s biases come into play in terms of who they believe and who the don’t. The problem with Kim is she can’t seem to get her timelines straight. One minute she joined during the D&P era, the next she was around during Lovesexy/GB.

Kim has admitted more than once that she wasn't a fan of Prince's(r.i.p.) music. So it's quite possible that she could get the time periods mixed up with his music & when she started doing his hair. Since she could care less if it was the Lovesexy period or Diamonds & Pearls period. Unlike me who can name each album time period in my sleep. Non fans could care less. To me it's really no big deal. It's still well over 20 years. She was fresh out of High School when she started working for him. Plus she was already part of the crew before that by dating Prince's(r.i.p.) bodyguard. Also she was the LONGEST hairdresser he had. Which qualifies her to know A LOT. Men & woman of a certain ethnicity share a lot with their hairdressers it's a culture thing.

All of U are just trying to sabotage her book. But it's not going to happem. It'll be a TOP seller. Especially when Ellen,Oprah & Jimmy Fallon interview her.

What an absolutely ridiculous attempt at justifying why she's contradicted herself numerous times on her start date with Prince. I remember my start date working for an insurance company 27 yrs ago, so I think it's fair to say she should remember the year she started working for one of the biggest musicians in the world.... nuts nod err

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Reply #190 posted 03/28/19 5:32pm

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rogifan said:
Gay people think everyone is secretly gay.
What Lisa meant by that comment is that he was a very feminine man who loved women. She was not saying he was secretly gay. That would be impossible.

Here you go - the snippet of Wendy and Lisa talking about Prince's sexuality with Out magazine....

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Did you first think Prince was gay?
Lisa: He was little and kinda prissy and everything. But hes so not gay.
Wendy: Hes a girl, for sure, but hes not gay. He looked at me like a gay woman would look at another woman.
Lisa: Totally. Hes like a fancy lesbian.
Wendy: I remember being at that Sexuality video shoot and him on stage with that little black jacket and that tie thing around his neck and his black pants with white buttons on the side. And we looked at each other for the first time and I thought, Oh, I could so fall in love with that girl easy. It doesnt matter what sexuality, gender you are. Youre in the room with him and he gives you that look and youre like, Okay, Im done. Its over. Hes Casanova. Hes Valentino.

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Reply #191 posted 03/28/19 5:48pm

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luv4u said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

All of U are just trying to sabotage her book. But it's not going to happem. It'll be a TOP seller. Especially when Ellen,Oprah & Jimmy Fallon interview her.



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Reply #192 posted 03/28/19 9:19pm

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rogifan said:

Genesia said:


According to Lisa, Prince was "like a fancy lesbian."

Gay people think everyone is secretly gay.



It is apparent from your post that you do not know any gay people.

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Reply #193 posted 03/29/19 3:17am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

All of U are just trying to sabotage her book. But it's not going to happem. It'll be a TOP seller. Especially when Ellen,Oprah & Jimmy Fallon interview her.

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Yes, because those shows invite people with self-published books all the time.

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Reply #194 posted 03/29/19 3:25am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

All of U are just trying to sabotage her book. But it's not going to happem. It'll be a TOP seller. Especially when Ellen,Oprah & Jimmy Fallon interview her.

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Yes, because those shows invite people with self-published books all the time.

#TRUTH ! Well said BVH.

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Reply #195 posted 03/29/19 7:43am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



rogifan said:


Genesia said:



According to Lisa, Prince was "like a fancy lesbian."



Gay people think everyone is secretly gay.



It is apparent from your post that you do not know any gay people.



A lot of gay people think that.
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Reply #196 posted 03/29/19 7:49am

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Genesia said:


According to Lisa, Prince was "like a fancy lesbian."

Gay people think everyone is secretly gay.


Uhhhh...no. Lesbians are attracted to women - as was Prince. For a man, being sexually attracted to women is the opposite of gay.

Lisa was talking more about outward appearance.

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Reply #197 posted 03/29/19 9:28am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

Make Me!!!


Are you 12?

I started working in the entertainment industry at TWELVE.

So there....rolleyes

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Reply #198 posted 03/29/19 9:44am

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Genesia said:

rogifan said:

Genesia said: Gay people think everyone is secretly gay.


Uhhhh...no. Lesbians are attracted to women - as was Prince. For a man, being sexually attracted to women is the opposite of gay.

Lisa was talking more about outward appearance.

I think it was Wendy who said it and IMHO, it went a little deeper than outward appearance.

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Reply #199 posted 03/29/19 9:52am

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Genesia said:


Uhhhh...no. Lesbians are attracted to women - as was Prince. For a man, being sexually attracted to women is the opposite of gay.

Lisa was talking more about outward appearance.

I think it was Wendy who said it and IMHO, it went a little deeper than outward appearance.


I was replying specifically to rogifan's statement implying that Prince was gay. No need to make it about something else. Thanks.

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Reply #200 posted 03/29/19 10:01am

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peggyon said:



Genesia said:




rogifan said:


Genesia said: Gay people think everyone is secretly gay.


Uhhhh...no. Lesbians are attracted to women - as was Prince. For a man, being sexually attracted to women is the opposite of gay.

Lisa was talking more about outward appearance.





I think it was Wendy who said it and IMHO, it went a little deeper than outward appearance.




They were both asked if they thought Prince was gay when they first met him. I posted that snippet of the interview. They were both talking about his mannerisms as well as his appearance - not just how he dressed.
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Reply #201 posted 03/29/19 10:08am

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peggyon said:

I think it was Wendy who said it and IMHO, it went a little deeper than outward appearance.

They were both asked if they thought Prince was gay when they first met him. I posted that snippet of the interview. They were both talking about his mannerisms as well as his appearance - not just how he dressed.

And, how Wendy interpreted how he looked at her. She felt he looked at her as a woman would look

at another woman.

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Reply #202 posted 03/29/19 10:25am

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peggyon said:

violetcrush said:

peggyon said: They were both asked if they thought Prince was gay when they first met him. I posted that snippet of the interview. They were both talking about his mannerisms as well as his appearance - not just how he dressed.

And, how Wendy interpreted how he looked at her. She felt he looked at her as a woman would look at her (v. a man) I am not a Lesbian so am a little 'tone deaf" about this statement.

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Reply #203 posted 03/29/19 10:55am

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peggyon said:



peggyon said:




violetcrush said:


peggyon said: They were both asked if they thought Prince was gay when they first met him. I posted that snippet of the interview. They were both talking about his mannerisms as well as his appearance - not just how he dressed.


And, how Wendy interpreted how he looked at her. She felt he looked at her as a woman would look at her (v. a man) I am not a Lesbian so am a little 'tone deaf" about this statement.









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[Edited 3/29/19 10:29am]


Yes, she said he looked st her like a lesbian would look at a woman she finds attractive. I’m also not a lesbian, but my interpretation was that he was a man with a strong feminine side who was completely heterosexual. Very on target, I think.
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Reply #204 posted 03/29/19 11:01am

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Reply #205 posted 03/29/19 11:06am

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Aw man, I wanted to sneak my little statement in.

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Reply #206 posted 03/29/19 12:20pm

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It is apparent from your post that you do not know any gay people.

A lot of gay people think that.

Lesbians don't think of/wish for men to be gay

Gay men don't think of/wish for women to be gay

Straight men don't think of/wish for women to be lesbian

Straight women don't think of/wish for men to be gay

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Reply #207 posted 03/29/19 2:10pm

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PeteSilas said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: A lot of gay people think that.

Lesbians don't think of/wish for men to be gay

Gay men don't think of/wish for women to be gay

Straight men don't think of/wish for women to be lesbian

Straight women don't think of/wish for men to be gay

you can't speak for all of them, i had to cut one friend off because he kept insisting i was gay and he loved me. too wierd for me.

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Reply #208 posted 03/29/19 4:32pm

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PeteSilas said:



OldFriends4Sale said:




PeteSilas said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: A lot of gay people think that.


Lesbians don't think of/wish for men to be gay


Gay men don't think of/wish for women to be gay


Straight men don't think of/wish for women to be lesbian


Straight women don't think of/wish for men to be gay



you can't speak for all of them, i had to cut one friend off because he kept insisting i was gay and he loved me. too wierd for me.


I had a lesbian friend who told me she liked to try to “convert” straight girls. She did have one serious relationship with a straight girl - or mostly straight? girl, but ultimately it did not last. Not a shocker.
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Reply #209 posted 03/29/19 4:44pm

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Y'all so rude. But since we're here. So what was this look Prince gave Wendy?





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