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Reply #90 posted 01/25/19 2:42am

iZsaZsa

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OldFriends4Sale said:

iZsaZsa said:

Definately. That's why I asked you. smile Plus you're a Gemini. Plus you're a Prince fan.

So, Vanity, or Mayte, or Mani? Choose one. biggrin

I would say the ones he continued to be friends with after the relationship was over was surely real
I have family friends ex lovers pets who are constant, survived the test of time ...the loves of my life

real love expands to embrace more
I know every relationship situation isn't the same and definately doesn't mean they didn't love each other.

It is freezing outside, I'm staying indoors. neko

I've never been in love, romantically, so I think I can't even begin to answer or make a guess.

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Reply #91 posted 01/25/19 4:23am

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Djohnson said:

purplemist7777 said:
This program is online. There is NO pic of AA in the program. There is a short quote from her. There are multiple pics of P with Mayte and MAnuela and some with band members (AA not pictured)
In M1's own words after her second miscarriage with P. Does this sound like they way you'd treat your soulmate? Actions speak louder than words. Bet he wouldn't have left Denise in this situation. I love Prince, but he messed with so many women's heads. Here's M1's words after 2nd miscarriage. 'I went into the bathroom and found blood seeping out of me. It felt like a long walk to the telephone,' writes Garcia. She called up her husband to let him know what was happening before she left to go have the check-up that had already been scheduled for the day. He said nothing, voiced no concern and did not even volunteer to accompany his wife. Once she got to the doctors and had her ultrasound the bad news was confirmed, there was no heartbeat. Then, the 24-year-old had to tell her husband, 39, that their child was gone. A soulmate would be there for his wife going through such trauma, not abandon her. I think she makes up in her head that it was his way of dealing with the grief, so she can somehow make peace with the way he treated her. Bottom line if he cared so much, he would have apologized, and talked to her all those yes before his death, but he didn't. He left her cold and YES ANNULED the marriage, no divorce.

What makes you believe that he wouldn't left Denise in this situation? Prince didn't have respect for any woman he was with, he treated them all bad that's the one thing I really dislike about him. He messed with all their minds, that's why some of them can't let go, even after he treated them like shit.

And no, he did not annul the marriage, you should stop getting your "infos" from LSA, for real tho, those are crazy people, they spread those rumors because it fits their own head canon. But to each their own, I guess.

[Edited 1/25/19 4:37am]

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Reply #92 posted 01/25/19 4:50am

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amethyst68 said:

minnesoundlvr said:

I think just about everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.

[Edited 1/24/19 15:03pm]

Prince wasn’t that ignorant. He knew he couldn’t annul a marriage after having a child. If you listen to the press conference when he announced it, you’d know his intention was to remarry on their anniversary and have a baptism for he and Mayte. To me, it sounded for more like he was trying to force her into joining the Jehovah’s Witness faith. If you read his chats on princeonlinemuseum, he was adamant they were meant to be together forever no matter what. I can’t explain what was going on with him but he wasn’t thinking clearly. Nothing he was doing around that last year of his marriage were the actions of a sane man. You can’t erase a wife or a son. Rather than saying Prince had lost his damn mind, you’d rather trash his grieving wife.

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Reply #93 posted 01/25/19 8:14am

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amethyst68 said:

minnesoundlvr said:

I think just about everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.

[Edited 1/24/19 15:03pm]

Prince wasn’t that ignorant. He knew he couldn’t annul a marriage after having a child. If you listen to the press conference when he announced it, you’d know his intention was to remarry on their anniversary and have a baptism for he and Mayte. To me, it sounded for more like he was trying to force her into joining the Jehovah’s Witness faith. If you read his chats on princeonlinemuseum, he was adamant they were meant to be together forever no matter what. I can’t explain what was going on with him but he wasn’t thinking clearly. Nothing he was doing around that last year of his marriage were the actions of a sane man. You can’t erase a wife or a son. Rather than saying Prince had lost his damn mind, you’d rather trash his grieving wife.

Why "trash" Prince because he tried to annul his marriage to Mayte? And, when you speak of "his grieving wife," are you referring to the time before he passed away or after?

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Reply #94 posted 01/25/19 8:17am

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Reply #95 posted 01/25/19 8:52am

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iZsaZsa said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I would say the ones he continued to be friends with after the relationship was over was surely real
I have family friends ex lovers pets who are constant, survived the test of time ...the loves of my life

real love expands to embrace more
I know every relationship situation isn't the same and definately doesn't mean they didn't love each other.

It is freezing outside, I'm staying indoors. neko

I've never been in love, romantically, so I think I can't even begin to answer or make a guess.

U seem like you swirl around in love

you've posted images of your place, and it shows you know what romance is.

Romance is more ancient and deeper than being about someone in an Eros relationship.

I define Romance from the Romanticism era.

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What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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Reply #96 posted 01/25/19 3:11pm

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The true love of his life was Prince.

yeahthat

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Reply #97 posted 01/25/19 4:42pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

iZsaZsa said:

It is freezing outside, I'm staying indoors. neko

I've never been in love, romantically, so I think I can't even begin to answer or make a guess.

U seem like you swirl around in love

you've posted images of your place, and it shows you know what romance is.

Romance is more ancient and deeper than being about someone in an Eros relationship.

I define Romance from the Romanticism era.


I want to learn about this Romanticism era. smile

I love my life and it shows, I guess I'm like Prince in that way?

But he must have loved someone best, after music, and after himself. Lol.

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Reply #98 posted 01/25/19 6:33pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

The only one he kept in contact with was Vanity. They were in contact up to, at least 2012.

Susannah, Sheila E as well into 2015

Right. Prince sent Susannah song lyrics just before he passed. He wanted to write/record with her again.

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Reply #99 posted 01/25/19 7:44pm

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I believe his true love was the first woman he married, the woman he chose to have a family with and the woman he publicly proclaimed over and over and over was THE love of his life, his soulmate and his twin flame. I'll take him at his word. She's the woman who inspired him immensely. She's the same woman who he proclaimed changed his life. The same woman was a part of his life longer than any other woman in his life. The woman who HE proclaimed in his wedding program to have inspired all of the love songs on The Love Symbol album, the woman he commissioned Neal Karlen to write a libretto of love about, the woman he wrote an entire ballet (Kamasutra) for, the woman who inspired 3 Chains O Gold, the woman he proclaimed as his "Eve", the woman he proclaimed he'd been in love with for thousands of years, the woman who inspired most of the songs on the Emancipation album, the same woman he sings about:

Holy River

Joint 2 Joint - not about Mayte -read the lyrics, it's about casual sex

Dreamin About U - never confirmed to be about Mayte

Let's Have A Baby

La La La Means I Love U

Damned If I Do - yep, but it's not a loving ballad...

I Like It Here - you mean, "I Like It There"?? could have been about any number of women he was dating at that time..

Curious Child - is not about Mayte, it is about a former lover - read the lyrics again

Soul Sanctuary - is not about Mayte, it is about missing a former lover - read the lyrics

One Kiss At A Time - I believe he's referring to oral sex here...so not a love song

Space - never confirmed to be about Mayte - on the Come album

The One

Have A Heart - most likely about Mayte, but in no way a flattering song about her

Here On Earth - really?? Uh, he had just married Manuela, so no - very doubtful...

Lion Of Judah - nope. Read the lyrics..."but I still adore you, adore you..."

Te Amo Corazon (LOOK AT THE VIDOE!!) - right..Prince started working with Bria at this time. Her actual last name is Fuentes, and he had met her years before when he was with Mayte smile

Walk In Sand - nope. He was dating Bria during this time, so most likely about her..

She Gave Her Angels

The Greatest Romance

A Million Days -nope. Prince recorded this song in 1995 NOT in 2004.

And God Created Woman

Love 2 The 9's - where is this confirmed?? Remember, he was also dating Carmen E during this time, and Nona Gaye too, and probably several more women...

Sexy MF - doubtful...see note right above this one..

The Morning Papers

Damn U - doubtful - he was with Carmen E at this time...

7

Magnificent - doubtful...he could have been referencing any number of women

Man O' War - probably, but not a love song at all...

Silly Games - doubtful, as this was recorded in early 1999

Greatest Romance Ever Been Sold - doubtful - this was not a "break-up" song/album...

Hypnoparadise - possibly, but doubtful as this was recorded 1998-99 time frame...

X's Face - do you know how many "X's" Prince had by the time he wrote this song???

U're Gonna C Me - most likely for Manuela, as it was written right before they were married...

I Wanna Melt With U - see comments next to Love 2 The 9's...

It's About That Walk - " "

Courtin Time

Betcha By Golly Wow

Sea of Everything - he was dating Bria at this time...

Strange But True - nope. He recorded this song when he was technically still with Mayte. Read the lyrics again...

Extraordinatory - probably, but a very "uninspired" song...

The Dance - doubtful as this was most likely recorded btw 1999-2001...

Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife

Saviour - probably, but again - not the most inspired of his ballads...

The Sun, Moon, Stars - "And when you start to fall, you come like a cold winter due in Montreal"...Manuela - from Canada..

All The Midnights In The World -doubt it as it was recorded in 2007

....I'm sure there are more I'm not aware of

The same woman whose initial he incorporated into his symbol to form their family crest. The woman he made the center of his life. Yet sadly, the same woman he betrayed but continued to speak of to his associates and continued to call THE love of his life years after their divorce. - doubtful....very very doubtful...

End of discussion...lock this thread LMAO

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Nah....not even close, because you are waaaaay off with your assumptions here...

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Regarding "3 Chains O' Gold"...have you actually READ the lyrics to the song??? Here are the first two verses, so that you can see this song is about a former lover....

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If I don't think about the fact that she left me
If I don't see the pearls fall from the sky
If I don't hear the accusations of blasphemy
If I don't feel the tears in my eyes
This is the best day of my life
You say you'll call me and then and then you don't
I'll want to kiss you and then I won't
We both do nothing and call it love
Is this love?
Is this love?
This morning I wanted a cup of coffee
But I didn't have any cream
Last night I wanted some inspiration
But I didn't have any dreams
Coupled with the fact that you belong to another
Whose name is self-righteousness
So evil girl, if one of us has a date
With the undertaker, which one will it be?
You can cry forever, but you'll get no sympathy
This is the best day of my life

^^^ See my notes in red above.... biggrin

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Reply #100 posted 01/25/19 9:46pm

amethyst68

violetcrush said:

amethyst68 said:

I believe his true love was the first woman he married, the woman he chose to have a family with and the woman he publicly proclaimed over and over and over was THE love of his life, his soulmate and his twin flame. I'll take him at his word. She's the woman who inspired him immensely. She's the same woman who he proclaimed changed his life. The same woman was a part of his life longer than any other woman in his life. The woman who HE proclaimed in his wedding program to have inspired all of the love songs on The Love Symbol album, the woman he commissioned Neal Karlen to write a libretto of love about, the woman he wrote an entire ballet (Kamasutra) for, the woman who inspired 3 Chains O Gold, the woman he proclaimed as his "Eve", the woman he proclaimed he'd been in love with for thousands of years, the woman who inspired most of the songs on the Emancipation album, the same woman he sings about:

Holy River

Joint 2 Joint - not about Mayte -read the lyrics, it's about casual sex

Dreamin About U - never confirmed to be about Mayte

Let's Have A Baby

La La La Means I Love U

Damned If I Do - yep, but it's not a loving ballad...

I Like It Here - you mean, "I Like It There"?? could have been about any number of women he was dating at that time..

Curious Child - is not about Mayte, it is about a former lover - read the lyrics again

Soul Sanctuary - is not about Mayte, it is about missing a former lover - read the lyrics

One Kiss At A Time - I believe he's referring to oral sex here...so not a love song

Space - never confirmed to be about Mayte - on the Come album

The One

Have A Heart - most likely about Mayte, but in no way a flattering song about her

Here On Earth - really?? Uh, he had just married Manuela, so no - very doubtful...

Lion Of Judah - nope. Read the lyrics..."but I still adore you, adore you..."

Te Amo Corazon (LOOK AT THE VIDOE!!) - right..Prince started working with Bria at this time. Her actual last name is Fuentes, and he had met her years before when he was with Mayte smile

Walk In Sand - nope. He was dating Bria during this time, so most likely about her..

She Gave Her Angels

The Greatest Romance

A Million Days -nope. Prince recorded this song in 1995 NOT in 2004.

And God Created Woman

Love 2 The 9's - where is this confirmed?? Remember, he was also dating Carmen E during this time, and Nona Gaye too, and probably several more women...

Sexy MF - doubtful...see note right above this one..

The Morning Papers

Damn U - doubtful - he was with Carmen E at this time...

7

Magnificent - doubtful...he could have been referencing any number of women

Man O' War - probably, but not a love song at all...

Silly Games - doubtful, as this was recorded in early 1999

Greatest Romance Ever Been Sold - doubtful - this was not a "break-up" song/album...

Hypnoparadise - possibly, but doubtful as this was recorded 1998-99 time frame...

X's Face - do you know how many "X's" Prince had by the time he wrote this song???

U're Gonna C Me - most likely for Manuela, as it was written right before they were married...

I Wanna Melt With U - see comments next to Love 2 The 9's...

It's About That Walk - " "

Courtin Time

Betcha By Golly Wow

Sea of Everything - he was dating Bria at this time...

Strange But True - nope. He recorded this song when he was technically still with Mayte. Read the lyrics again...

Extraordinatory - probably, but a very "uninspired" song...

The Dance - doubtful as this was most likely recorded btw 1999-2001...

Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife

Saviour - probably, but again - not the most inspired of his ballads...

The Sun, Moon, Stars - "And when you start to fall, you come like a cold winter due in Montreal"...Manuela - from Canada..

All The Midnights In The World -doubt it as it was recorded in 2007

....I'm sure there are more I'm not aware of

The same woman whose initial he incorporated into his symbol to form their family crest. The woman he made the center of his life. Yet sadly, the same woman he betrayed but continued to speak of to his associates and continued to call THE love of his life years after their divorce. - doubtful....very very doubtful...

End of discussion...lock this thread LMAO

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Nah....not even close, because you are waaaaay off with your assumptions here...

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Regarding "3 Chains O' Gold"...have you actually READ the lyrics to the song??? Here are the first two verses, so that you can see this song is about a former lover....

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If I don't think about the fact that she left me
If I don't see the pearls fall from the sky
If I don't hear the accusations of blasphemy
If I don't feel the tears in my eyes
This is the best day of my life
You say you'll call me and then and then you don't
I'll want to kiss you and then I won't
We both do nothing and call it love
Is this love?
Is this love?
This morning I wanted a cup of coffee
But I didn't have any cream
Last night I wanted some inspiration
But I didn't have any dreams
Coupled with the fact that you belong to another
Whose name is self-righteousness
So evil girl, if one of us has a date
With the undertaker, which one will it be?
You can cry forever, but you'll get no sympathy
This is the best day of my life

^^^ See my notes in red above.... biggrin

According to Prince and Mayte's wedding program, put together by Prince, the Love Symbol album includes "a collection of love songs mostly written 4 and about Mayte." Prince met Mayte a year before he met Carmen and two years before he met Nona Gaye. He was already writing the album 6 months after meeting Mayte before anyone knew who a Tara was.

-Damn U

-Love 2 the 9's

-And God Created Woman

-The Morning Papers

-Sexy MF (his guitar tecn confirmed)

-The Continental

-Arrogance (the song isn't about Mayte but he sure does refer to her in the lyrics)

-I Wanna Melt With U (what other woman was walking around wearing ankle chains??)

The One Nite Alone album was recorded in early 2001. He wasn't married to his second wife at the time and all of these songs refer to a man longing for someone he lost or pissed at a lover he's no longer with.

-Here On Earth

-Ur Gonna C Me

-Pearls B4 Swine

-Have A Heart

-Arboretum

I shouldn't have to say anything about the Emancipation album. Prince said over and over and over again in 1996, 1997 and 1998, the second disc of the Emancipation album was inspire by and written for his wife. If that's not enough, EMI released a press release saying "the love songs on the Emancipation CD are in large measure a dedication to his new wife." Just because you don't believe it or understand the song doesn't mean it ain't true.

-Joint 2 Joint

-Right Back Here In My Arms

-Courtin Time

-Betcha By Golly Wow

-Damned If Eye Do (she's in the song!!!)

-Sex In The Summer (he says her name throughout the song!!)

-One Kiss At A Time

-Soul Sanctuary

-Curious Child

-Dreamin' About U

-The Holy River

-Let's Have A Baby

-Friend Lover Sister Mother/Wife

-Saviour

-The Plan

-La La La Means Eye Love U

-I Like It There (find the interview and READ IT!!!)

-Te Amo Corazon (LOOK AT THE VIDEO & READ THE LYRICS!!!.....here are a few clues Morocco, a country Mayte and Prince vacationed many times while together, Adam and Eve, Prince used A&E to refer to he and Mayte many times throughout their marriage, Spanish to English translation book, the home grown garden, the birds, his salsa attempt, the song title "TE AMO" which he repeated over and over and over again in the song he wrote for their wedding FLSMW!!! It has nothing to do with Bria)

-Walk In Sand (who cares who he was dating at the time....the women he was dating didn't inspire the song....the clue is the mural in Mayte and Prince's bedroom in Spain, the desert, the pyramids, dancing for royalty....the lyrics, what other woman was he dancing for royalty with?? You know, if he ever was in the present of British royalty or any royalty it would be reported just like it was reported when he met Prince Charles and performed in Monaco for Prince Albert!!!

-Sea of Everything (what other love of his life was photographed and appearing in magazines as much as Mayte was in at the time???

-Hypnoparadise (He talks about her being a hypnoparadise for him in a love letter from her book. They were married at the time it was written)

-Million Days (confirmed by engineer who the song was inspired by)

-The Sun, Moon, Stars (READ HIS INTERVIEW...he talks about when, where and who inspired the song)

-Strange But True (it was written during a difficult time in their marriage a year before they divorced. Yes, read the lyrics. Some of the most personal and heartfelt lyrics ever written by him and some of the words are identical to interviews given around the very same time!!!)

Who cares if any of the songs Mayte inspired were loving songs or not or whether you think the songs were "the most inspired ballads", she still inspired them. He was inspired by whatever was going on and greater affected his life. You may as well say she inspired The Rainbow Children's album because he sure as hell was shading her in several songs from the album.

I said the fictional 3 Chains O' Gold film was inspired by Mayte, not the song. The story is inspired by how they met and their relationship grew. The video cover says "In Egypt, princess Maytes father is assassinated by 7 men, leaving her with the sacred three chains of gold. She decides to seek out the help of Prince in USA, and sends him a tape of her dancing. Prince immediately falls in love with her, but is frightened by the commitment. He tries to escape through having sex with others, but his heart isn't in it. His heart belongs to Mayte... Prince's namechange into O)+> is also addressed.

Did I mention the libretto written for her or the ballet?

Did I mention their cute little family crest with his symbol and her initial entwined?

SHE INSPIRED HIM LIKE NO OTHER.

Then when you hear his associates (directors, engineers, makeup artists, singers, hair stylists) say how much he talked about her after they divorced and say to associates who never met Mayte, she was the love of his life, you realize how much more she continued to inspire after they divorced. Then when when one of his ex-girlfriends confirms it, it all starts to make sense. But you should expect it because she was the first woman he married and the only woman to have his child. He invested so much of his heart and soul to her then he betrayed her. A love like that doesn't disappear over night no matter how many other woman you're screwing.

Oh, and just because he's screwing you, dating you or married you, as in the case of M2, doesn't mean you greatly inspired him LMAO.

End of discussion.

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Reply #101 posted 01/26/19 12:34am

Djohnson

ThatWhiteDude said:



amethyst68 said:


minnesoundlvr said:


I think just about everyone knows that Prince was not successful in annulling his marriage to M1. The point is that he TRIED to erase their union, as though it never even happened. That is an undeniable fact.


[Edited 1/24/19 15:03pm]



Prince wasn’t that ignorant. He knew he couldn’t annul a marriage after having a child. If you listen to the press conference when he announced it, you’d know his intention was to remarry on their anniversary and have a baptism for he and Mayte. To me, it sounded for more like he was trying to force her into joining the Jehovah’s Witness faith. If you read his chats on princeonlinemuseum, he was adamant they were meant to be together forever no matter what. I can’t explain what was going on with him but he wasn’t thinking clearly. Nothing he was doing around that last year of his marriage were the actions of a sane man. You can’t erase a wife or a son. Rather than saying Prince had lost his damn mind, you’d rather trash his grieving wife.

Yup.


Some of you people seriously need to get a grip! I've not trashed talked Mayte and I haven't read all the quotes on this thread, but haven't seen anyone trash talk her. Some of us saying we believe Vanity was his true love is not a dis to anyone. It's just what we believe. But my oh my you're speaking as though M1 is still his wife (grieving wife) 🤷 What the he'll is that all about? They were divorced almost 20 yrs now. And he had a 2nd wife Mani. Do you think everyone is trash talking her by saying Vanity was possibly his true love?? Seriously, some people need to seek therapy. Because some of you are acting bat shit crazy. Get a grip please.
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Reply #102 posted 01/26/19 12:39am

violetcrush

amethyst68 said:

violetcrush said:

^^^ See my notes in red above.... biggrin

According to Prince and Mayte's wedding program, put together by Prince, the Love Symbol album includes "a collection of love songs mostly written 4 and about Mayte." Prince met Mayte a year before he met Carmen and two years before he met Nona Gaye. He was already writing the album 6 months after meeting Mayte before anyone knew who a Tara was.

-Damn U

-Love 2 the 9's

-And God Created Woman

-The Morning Papers

-Sexy MF (his guitar tecn confirmed)

-The Continental

-Arrogance (the song isn't about Mayte but he sure does refer to her in the lyrics)

-I Wanna Melt With U (what other woman was walking around wearing ankle chains??)

The One Nite Alone album was recorded in early 2001. He wasn't married to his second wife at the time and all of these songs refer to a man longing for someone he lost or pissed at a lover he's no longer with.

-Here On Earth

-Ur Gonna C Me

-Pearls B4 Swine

-Have A Heart

-Arboretum

I shouldn't have to say anything about the Emancipation album. Prince said over and over and over again in 1996, 1997 and 1998, the second disc of the Emancipation album was inspire by and written for his wife. If that's not enough, EMI released a press release saying "the love songs on the Emancipation CD are in large measure a dedication to his new wife." Just because you don't believe it or understand the song doesn't mean it ain't true.

-Joint 2 Joint

-Right Back Here In My Arms

-Courtin Time

-Betcha By Golly Wow

-Damned If Eye Do (she's in the song!!!)

-Sex In The Summer (he says her name throughout the song!!)

-One Kiss At A Time

-Soul Sanctuary

-Curious Child

-Dreamin' About U

-The Holy River

-Let's Have A Baby

-Friend Lover Sister Mother/Wife

-Saviour

-The Plan

-La La La Means Eye Love U

-I Like It There (find the interview and READ IT!!!)

-Te Amo Corazon (LOOK AT THE VIDEO & READ THE LYRICS!!!.....here are a few clues Morocco, a country Mayte and Prince vacationed many times while together, Adam and Eve, Prince used A&E to refer to he and Mayte many times throughout their marriage, Spanish to English translation book, the home grown garden, the birds, his salsa attempt, the song title "TE AMO" which he repeated over and over and over again in the song he wrote for their wedding FLSMW!!! It has nothing to do with Bria)

-Walk In Sand (who cares who he was dating at the time....the women he was dating didn't inspire the song....the clue is the mural in Mayte and Prince's bedroom in Spain, the desert, the pyramids, dancing for royalty....the lyrics, what other woman was he dancing for royalty with?? You know, if he ever was in the present of British royalty or any royalty it would be reported just like it was reported when he met Prince Charles and performed in Monaco for Prince Albert!!!

-Sea of Everything (what other love of his life was photographed and appearing in magazines as much as Mayte was in at the time???

-Hypnoparadise (He talks about her being a hypnoparadise for him in a love letter from her book. They were married at the time it was written)

-Million Days (confirmed by engineer who the song was inspired by)

-The Sun, Moon, Stars (READ HIS INTERVIEW...he talks about when, where and who inspired the song)

-Strange But True (it was written during a difficult time in their marriage a year before they divorced. Yes, read the lyrics. Some of the most personal and heartfelt lyrics ever written by him and some of the words are identical to interviews given around the very same time!!!)

Who cares if any of the songs Mayte inspired were loving songs or not or whether you think the songs were "the most inspired ballads", she still inspired them. He was inspired by whatever was going on and greater affected his life. You may as well say she inspired The Rainbow Children's album because he sure as hell was shading her in several songs from the album.

I said the fictional 3 Chains O' Gold film was inspired by Mayte, not the song. The story is inspired by how they met and their relationship grew. The video cover says "In Egypt, princess Maytes father is assassinated by 7 men, leaving her with the sacred three chains of gold. She decides to seek out the help of Prince in USA, and sends him a tape of her dancing. Prince immediately falls in love with her, but is frightened by the commitment. He tries to escape through having sex with others, but his heart isn't in it. His heart belongs to Mayte... Prince's namechange into O)+> is also addressed.

Did I mention the libretto written for her or the ballet?

Did I mention their cute little family crest with his symbol and her initial entwined?

SHE INSPIRED HIM LIKE NO OTHER.

Then when you hear his associates (directors, engineers, makeup artists, singers, hair stylists) say how much he talked about her after they divorced and say to associates who never met Mayte, she was the love of his life, you realize how much more she continued to inspire after they divorced. Then when when one of his ex-girlfriends confirms it, it all starts to make sense. But you should expect it because she was the first woman he married and the only woman to have his child. He invested so much of his heart and soul to her then he betrayed her. A love like that doesn't disappear over night no matter how many other woman you're screwing.

Oh, and just because he's screwing you, dating you or married you, as in the case of M2, doesn't mean you greatly inspired him LMAO.

End of discussion.

THIS IS THE 2ND DISC FOR EMANCIPATION (NOT YOUR LIST ABOVE):

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  • Disc 2:
  1. Sex In The Summer (5:56)
  2. One Kiss At A Time (4:40)
  3. Soul Sanctuary (4:41) 5
  4. Emale (3:37)
  5. Curious Child (2:57)
  6. Dreamin' About U (3:52)
  7. Joint 2 Joint (7:51)
  8. The Holy River (6:55)
  9. Let's Have A Baby (4:07)
  10. Saviour (5:48)
  11. The Plan (1:46)
  12. Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife (7:37

Sex In The Summer - about jamming with his band and checking out the chicks on the beach

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Soul Sanctuary - please see lyrics below...NOT about Mayte, it is about missing a former lover

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Loving you in silence, knowing that it's right
Under your gaze I ponder this love tonight
Unbothered by the chaos swirling 'round outside
In your arms is where I want to live and die
Someplace where your face is all that I see
Where the love we make intoxicates intensively
In a mirror where your sweet reflection used 2 be
There is hope, there is joy, my soul sanctuary
My soul sanctuary

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Someplace (someplace) where your face is all that I see (All that I see)
Where the love we make intoxicates intensively (Intensively)
In a mirror (mirror) where your sweet (sweet) reflections used to be
There is hope, there is joy, my soul sanctuary
My soul sanctuary
(My, my, my, my, my soul) My soul sanctuary
Oh, my soul sanctuary
Soul sanctuary

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Emale - please see lyrics below....NOT about Mayte, it is about connecting with a former lover via his PC email, and meeting her for sex

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The emale left so clearly upon a computer screen
Read like a threat that crept into her like a sex machine
Wanted: Any woman who's first name begins with a "Z" (most likely "Zannalee")
From the sound of the keys, a pawn makes a move
Her reply brings on the groove

[Chorus]
W-w-w-dot-emale-dot-com
The king takes the pawn
W-w-w-dot-emale-dot-com
It's on, it's on, it's on!

[Verse 2]
He couldn't wait to tell her until after he got the nella
Her love would only even the score
It seemed her darling fella
He stole a hell of lot of bucks from the corner store
The declaration of war that followed
She never believed, oh
In the darkest corners where widows mourn

That's where he whispered her name
He said, "We can do it here, my dear
But I fear your tears will fall like rain"
(They fall like)
"Because I must tell you (Tell you)
While I'm deep in your smell
You got the man I want to inflict with pain
I'm running a game with my paper
I'm turning the boy to vapor
Now I wanna do the same to you
If you don't tattoo my name upon your train

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SONGS 8-12 - ABOUT THE MARRIAGE/BABY...THAT'S IT

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Are you familiar with the early configurations of Emancipation??? Literally, up until early 1996 - coicidentally, when Mayte got pregnant. Take a look - Right Back Here In My Arms, Slowly Candle Burns, Journey 2 The Center Of Your Heart, Goodbye - nothing to do with his relationship with Mayte.

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  • July 1995 configuration
  1. Right Back Here In My Arms
  2. Slave
  3. (Slowly Candle Burns)
  4. New World
  5. 2020
  6. Feel Good
  7. Journey 2 The Center Of Your ♥
  8. D.J.
  9. Emancipation



  • undated 1995 configuration
  1. Slave
  2. New World
  3. (Slowly Candle Burns)
  4. 2020
  5. Feel Good
  6. Right Back Here In My Arms
  7. Journey 2 The Center Of Your ♥
  8. D.J.
  9. (Excuse Me Is This) Goodbye
  10. Emancipation



  • Fall 1995 configuration
  1. Emancipation
  2. Right Back Here In My Arms
  3. Slave
  4. (Slowly Candle Burns)
  5. 2020
  6. New World
  7. Feel Good
  8. Journey 2 The Center Of Your ♥
  9. D.J.
  10. (Excuse Me Is This) Goodbye

Amethyst68 said:

"According to Prince and Mayte's wedding program, put together by Prince, the Love Symbol album includes "a collection of love songs mostly written 4 and about Mayte." Prince met Mayte a year before he met Carmen and two years before he met Nona Gaye."

Yep, Prince MET Mayte at his 1990 Nude tour concert in Europe when her Mother managed to get her Belly Dancing tape to Prince via his security staff. However, it was another year before she arrived at PP. Carmen met Prince through Robin Power, who is another chick Prince was banging during that time - during/after his affair with Kim Basinger. Prince was seeing Nona on the side for at least a couple of years as wel. They were all in the camp at the same time. Prince also dated Lori Elle at that time - "Diamond" of the Diamond & Pearl duo. Prince was dating a plethora of women from 1990-1995.

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"Electra started her professional career in 1990 as a dancer at Kings Island in Mason, Ohio, in the show "It's Magic", one of the more popular shows in the park's history.[14] In 1991, she moved to Minneapolis, Minnesota, where she met singer and songwriter Prince.[15] Soon after, Electra signed a recording contract with Prince's Paisley Park Records and began a short-lived singing career.[16] During her time at Paisley Park Records, she officially became known as Carmen Electra."


PRINCE SAID MANY THINGS DURING INTERVIEWS IN THE '97-'99 TIME PERIOD. HE HAD SEVERAL ALBUMS TO PROMOTE. IT'S BEEN CONFIRMED THAT HE HAD STARTED SOMETHING WITH MANUELA BY 1998. SHE WAS WORKING AT PP BY THAT POINT. HAVE YOU HEARD THE SONG "MADRID TO CHICAGO"?? MANUELA IS ALSO SEEN IN HIS "COME ON" VIDEO FILMED IN 1998. SO, WHILE HE WAS ROMANCING MANUELA, HE WAS DOING PR TO PROMOTE HIS ALBUMS AND MAINTAINING A FACADE OF A HAPPY MARRIAGE.

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Te Amo Corazon - so, because he "re-used" a spanish phrase in a song recorded MUCH later, that must mean it's about Mayte??? Okay, sure.

"Te amo corazón
I'm so scared of losing you (really?? didn't he already divorce her? she wasn't with him)
I really don't know what I'd do
Can't bear the thought of another day apart"

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A Million Days - really ?? which Engineer confirmed this?? Because Hans Martin Buff - who actually recorded the song WITH Prince - recently confirmed the song was originally recorded in 1995. Princevault.com: nitial recording dates are unknown, but engineer H.M. Buff has stated that the song was recorded in 1995 at Paisley Park Studios in Chanhassen, Minnesota. It is not known if the track was considered for use on any other project prior to Musicology.

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3 Chains O' Gold: BUT, listen to the song!!!! Who cares about the dumb video, which never amounted to anything - it really was ridiculous storyline. The SONG was Prince's inspiration at the time, and he was clearly missing and still in love with a woman who had left him.

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Strange But True: Are you kidding??? This song was written during Prince's breakup with Mayte, and it is a message to a woman from his past whom he clearly still loved. Look at the lyrics:

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Okay, let me say this quick - before I start to cry
You are the only one that I gave it to, the one I fantasized for
And time away from you has taught me
What I should have known
That this hole I'm trying to fill with another yeah, it's grown
And I got your package
But when I tried to write back I bailed
See, in trying to express the future, sometimes language fails
And over this time I've learned
My life force is increased by knowing you
Every door that closes, another one opens

[Chorus]
Strange but true
Strange but true

[Verse 2]
No regrets because I forget the unfamiliar faces
Those petty lies and alibis, just gold digers chasing
Dreams of sovereignty, they tried to come between you and me
A curse therein set forth a chain of events
That only freed me when I remembered
Where I was and who I am
The only Prince that will ever rule this holy land

All understand and all standunder this affirmation now
By the power invested in me by God

All negativity bows

[Chorus]
Strange but true
Strange but true

[Verse 3]
You may have lost me, but I found myself
The ones who love me without condition this is my wealth
And with these words I will win
Repeat them over and over again
All understand and all standunder this affirmation now
By the power invested in me by God

[Chorus]
Strange but true
Strange but true
Strange but true
Strange but true
Strange but true
Strange but true
Strange but true
Strange but true

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THAT SONG HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MAYTE. HE IS SPEAKING TO SOMEONE FROM HIS PAST.

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Oh, right, the ballet. You mean the one that Prince wrote to Susannah about in 1994, A YEAR AFTER HE WAS ASKING TO SEE HER AND CRYING IN HER ARMS?? Right, that one....

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HMMMMMM, INTERESTING.

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Amethyst68 said:

"Then when you hear his associates (directors, engineers, makeup artists, singers, hair stylists) say how much he talked about her after they divorced and say to associates who never met Mayte, she was the love of his life, you realize how much more she continued to inspire after they divorced. Then when when one of his ex-girlfriends confirms it, it all starts to make sense. But you should expect it because she was the first woman he married and the only woman to have his child. He invested so much of his heart and soul to her then he betrayed her. A love like that doesn't disappear over night no matter how many other woman you're screwing."

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Really?? Prince was miserable through most of the 90's. Many many songs about loneliness, heartbreak, and missing a past relationship. He became very thin, gaunt, and angry. Yep, he got married- and the timing of all of that was quite interesting too. However, he obviously wanted his child and was going to make that work. It truly was a tragedy for both of them, and I can't imagine the heartache. I think he loved Mayte, but I don't think he was "in love" with her. That is just my opinion- and I'm going by many of the songs he wrote throughout the 90's. Mayte herself has confirmed that during the whole of her time with him - even during the marriage - she was not permitted to intiate contact with him. She had to wait for him to contact her. THAT is a "soul mate"? Really?? She was young - WAY too young to be dropped into that environment (shame on her parents), and she was easily controlled by Prince. Prince was 33 and she was 17 when she started in his camp. Think about that. A grown, close to middle-aged man with a teenager. eek

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Djohnson

amethyst68 said:



violetcrush said:




amethyst68 said:


I believe his true love was the first woman he married, the woman he chose to have a family with and the woman he publicly proclaimed over and over and over was THE love of his life, his soulmate and his twin flame. I'll take him at his word. She's the woman who inspired him immensely. She's the same woman who he proclaimed changed his life. The same woman was a part of his life longer than any other woman in his life. The woman who HE proclaimed in his wedding program to have inspired all of the love songs on The Love Symbol album, the woman he commissioned Neal Karlen to write a libretto of love about, the woman he wrote an entire ballet (Kamasutra) for, the woman who inspired 3 Chains O Gold, the woman he proclaimed as his "Eve", the woman he proclaimed he'd been in love with for thousands of years, the woman who inspired most of the songs on the Emancipation album, the same woman he sings about:



Holy River


Joint 2 Joint - not about Mayte -read the lyrics, it's about casual sex


Dreamin About U - never confirmed to be about Mayte


Let's Have A Baby


La La La Means I Love U


Damned If I Do - yep, but it's not a loving ballad...


I Like It Here - you mean, "I Like It There"?? could have been about any number of women he was dating at that time..


Curious Child - is not about Mayte, it is about a former lover - read the lyrics again


Soul Sanctuary - is not about Mayte, it is about missing a former lover - read the lyrics


One Kiss At A Time - I believe he's referring to oral sex here...so not a love song


Space - never confirmed to be about Mayte - on the Come album


The One


Have A Heart - most likely about Mayte, but in no way a flattering song about her


Here On Earth - really?? Uh, he had just married Manuela, so no - very doubtful...


Lion Of Judah - nope. Read the lyrics..."but I still adore you, adore you..."


Te Amo Corazon (LOOK AT THE VIDOE!!) - right..Prince started working with Bria at this time. Her actual last name is Fuentes, and he had met her years before when he was with Mayte smile


Walk In Sand - nope. He was dating Bria during this time, so most likely about her..


She Gave Her Angels


The Greatest Romance


A Million Days -nope. Prince recorded this song in 1995 NOT in 2004.


And God Created Woman


Love 2 The 9's - where is this confirmed?? Remember, he was also dating Carmen E during this time, and Nona Gaye too, and probably several more women...


Sexy MF - doubtful...see note right above this one..


The Morning Papers


Damn U - doubtful - he was with Carmen E at this time...


7


Magnificent - doubtful...he could have been referencing any number of women


Man O' War - probably, but not a love song at all...


Silly Games - doubtful, as this was recorded in early 1999


Greatest Romance Ever Been Sold - doubtful - this was not a "break-up" song/album...


Hypnoparadise - possibly, but doubtful as this was recorded 1998-99 time frame...


X's Face - do you know how many "X's" Prince had by the time he wrote this song???


U're Gonna C Me - most likely for Manuela, as it was written right before they were married...


I Wanna Melt With U - see comments next to Love 2 The 9's...


It's About That Walk - " "


Courtin Time


Betcha By Golly Wow


Sea of Everything - he was dating Bria at this time...


Strange But True - nope. He recorded this song when he was technically still with Mayte. Read the lyrics again...


Extraordinatory - probably, but a very "uninspired" song...


The Dance - doubtful as this was most likely recorded btw 1999-2001...


Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife


Saviour - probably, but again - not the most inspired of his ballads...


The Sun, Moon, Stars - "And when you start to fall, you come like a cold winter due in Montreal"...Manuela - from Canada..


All The Midnights In The World -doubt it as it was recorded in 2007



....I'm sure there are more I'm not aware of



The same woman whose initial he incorporated into his symbol to form their family crest. The woman he made the center of his life. Yet sadly, the same woman he betrayed but continued to speak of to his associates and continued to call THE love of his life years after their divorce. - doubtful....very very doubtful...



End of discussion...lock this thread LMAO



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Nah....not even close, because you are waaaaay off with your assumptions here...


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Regarding "3 Chains O' Gold"...have you actually READ the lyrics to the song??? Here are the first two verses, so that you can see this song is about a former lover....


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If I don't think about the fact that she left me
If I don't see the pearls fall from the sky
If I don't hear the accusations of blasphemy
If I don't feel the tears in my eyes
This is the best day of my life
You say you'll call me and then and then you don't
I'll want to kiss you and then I won't
We both do nothing and call it love
Is this love?
Is this love?

This morning I wanted a cup of coffee
But I didn't have any cream
Last night I wanted some inspiration
But I didn't have any dreams
Coupled with the fact that you belong to another
Whose name is self-righteousness
So evil girl, if one of us has a date
With the undertaker, which one will it be?
You can cry forever, but you'll get no sympathy
This is the best day of my life




^^^ See my notes in red above.... biggrin





According to Prince and Mayte's wedding program, put together by Prince, the Love Symbol album includes "a collection of love songs mostly written 4 and about Mayte." Prince met Mayte a year before he met Carmen and two years before he met Nona Gaye. He was already writing the album 6 months after meeting Mayte before anyone knew who a Tara was.


-Damn U


-Love 2 the 9's


-And God Created Woman


-The Morning Papers


-Sexy MF (his guitar tecn confirmed)


-The Continental


-Arrogance (the song isn't about Mayte but he sure does refer to her in the lyrics)


-I Wanna Melt With U (what other woman was walking around wearing ankle chains??)



The One Nite Alone album was recorded in early 2001. He wasn't married to his second wife at the time and all of these songs refer to a man longing for someone he lost or pissed at a lover he's no longer with.


-Here On Earth


-Ur Gonna C Me


-Pearls B4 Swine


-Have A Heart


-Arboretum



I shouldn't have to say anything about the Emancipation album. Prince said over and over and over again in 1996, 1997 and 1998, the second disc of the Emancipation album was inspire by and written for his wife. If that's not enough, EMI released a press release saying "the love songs on the Emancipation CD are in large measure a dedication to his new wife." Just because you don't believe it or understand the song doesn't mean it ain't true.


-Joint 2 Joint


-Right Back Here In My Arms


-Courtin Time


-Betcha By Golly Wow


-Damned If Eye Do (she's in the song!!!)


-Sex In The Summer (he says her name throughout the song!!)


-One Kiss At A Time


-Soul Sanctuary


-Curious Child


-Dreamin' About U


-The Holy River


-Let's Have A Baby


-Friend Lover Sister Mother/Wife


-Saviour


-The Plan


-La La La Means Eye Love U



-I Like It There (find the interview and READ IT!!!)



-Te Amo Corazon (LOOK AT THE VIDEO & READ THE LYRICS!!!.....here are a few clues Morocco, a country Mayte and Prince vacationed many times while together, Adam and Eve, Prince used A&E to refer to he and Mayte many times throughout their marriage, Spanish to English translation book, the home grown garden, the birds, his salsa attempt, the song title "TE AMO" which he repeated over and over and over again in the song he wrote for their wedding FLSMW!!! It has nothing to do with Bria)



-Walk In Sand (who cares who he was dating at the time....the women he was dating didn't inspire the song....the clue is the mural in Mayte and Prince's bedroom in Spain, the desert, the pyramids, dancing for royalty....the lyrics, what other woman was he dancing for royalty with?? You know, if he ever was in the present of British royalty or any royalty it would be reported just like it was reported when he met Prince Charles and performed in Monaco for Prince Albert!!!



-Sea of Everything (what other love of his life was photographed and appearing in magazines as much as Mayte was in at the time???



-Hypnoparadise (He talks about her being a hypnoparadise for him in a love letter from her book. They were married at the time it was written)



-Million Days (confirmed by engineer who the song was inspired by)



-The Sun, Moon, Stars (READ HIS INTERVIEW...he talks about when, where and who inspired the song)



-Strange But True (it was written during a difficult time in their marriage a year before they divorced. Yes, read the lyrics. Some of the most personal and heartfelt lyrics ever written by him and some of the words are identical to interviews given around the very same time!!!)



Who cares if any of the songs Mayte inspired were loving songs or not or whether you think the songs were "the most inspired ballads", she still inspired them. He was inspired by whatever was going on and greater affected his life. You may as well say she inspired The Rainbow Children's album because he sure as hell was shading her in several songs from the album.



I said the fictional 3 Chains O' Gold film was inspired by Mayte, not the song. The story is inspired by how they met and their relationship grew. The video cover says "In Egypt, princess Maytes father is assassinated by 7 men, leaving her with the sacred three chains of gold. She decides to seek out the help of Prince in USA, and sends him a tape of her dancing. Prince immediately falls in love with her, but is frightened by the commitment. He tries to escape through having sex with others, but his heart isn't in it. His heart belongs to Mayte... Prince's namechange into O)+> is also addressed.



Did I mention the libretto written for her or the ballet?



Did I mention their cute little family crest with his symbol and her initial entwined?



SHE INSPIRED HIM LIKE NO OTHER.



Then when you hear his associates (directors, engineers, makeup artists, singers, hair stylists) say how much he talked about her after they divorced and say to associates who never met Mayte, she was the love of his life, you realize how much more she continued to inspire after they divorced. Then when when one of his ex-girlfriends confirms it, it all starts to make sense. But you should expect it because she was the first woman he married and the only woman to have his child. He invested so much of his heart and soul to her then he betrayed her. A love like that doesn't disappear over night no matter how many other woman you're screwing.



Oh, and just because he's screwing you, dating you or married you, as in the case of M2, doesn't mean you greatly inspired him LMAO.



End of discussion.










So if he was so in live with M1, why did he treat her like shit, cheat on her, abandon her after their child's death??? Your logic makes no sense. Nobody can prove every song he wrote when he was married to M1 is about her because he was cheating on her since 1998 with Mani (2nd wife) who he left Mayte for. Also, Carmen Electra has a hand written note "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was written for her. So who was it really written for?? My guess every woman he'd probably slept with and those he hadn't yet. Meaning it was probably in reference to EVEEY woman. And I heard that's how he intended it to be viewed. Any woman he was with he wrote songs for, and usually produced them an album. Rumor has it M1 got pregnant before they were married to trap P into marrying him. Makes sense if you calculate her delivery date and their wedding date. She's said the baby was born premature, then in another interview said she carried the baby to term. Which is it? Then the shot gun wedding, phone proposal. It doesn't add up that this was a romantic marriage from the beginning. No way dogging her, because if she did that, it was a smart move for fame and fortune. But sadly things ended so tragically. That is not fair to anyone. But she shouldn't have been surprised he was cheating on her with Manuella and who knows who else? Mani had her troubles with P during her marriage with him as well. But she was smart and divorced him instead of continuing on with mind games. And I don't blame Prince. Any woman who got involved with him would be crazy to think he would be faithful to 1 woman. So no tears shed for anyone who was cheated on by him. They all were cheated on. And seemed to be ok with it, which I think is very odd. 🤷 Have some respect for yourself and find true love. True love doesnt hurt!!! BTW many women are the same and cannot be faithful to 1 man. So you better know what your getting when you marry that type of person.
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violetcrush

Djohnson said:

amethyst68 said:



violetcrush said:




amethyst68 said:


I believe his true love was the first woman he married, the woman he chose to have a family with and the woman he publicly proclaimed over and over and over was THE love of his life, his soulmate and his twin flame. I'll take him at his word. She's the woman who inspired him immensely. She's the same woman who he proclaimed changed his life. The same woman was a part of his life longer than any other woman in his life. The woman who HE proclaimed in his wedding program to have inspired all of the love songs on The Love Symbol album, the woman he commissioned Neal Karlen to write a libretto of love about, the woman he wrote an entire ballet (Kamasutra) for, the woman who inspired 3 Chains O Gold, the woman he proclaimed as his "Eve", the woman he proclaimed he'd been in love with for thousands of years, the woman who inspired most of the songs on the Emancipation album, the same woman he sings about:



Holy River


Joint 2 Joint - not about Mayte -read the lyrics, it's about casual sex


Dreamin About U - never confirmed to be about Mayte


Let's Have A Baby


La La La Means I Love U


Damned If I Do - yep, but it's not a loving ballad...


I Like It Here - you mean, "I Like It There"?? could have been about any number of women he was dating at that time..


Curious Child - is not about Mayte, it is about a former lover - read the lyrics again


Soul Sanctuary - is not about Mayte, it is about missing a former lover - read the lyrics


One Kiss At A Time - I believe he's referring to oral sex here...so not a love song


Space - never confirmed to be about Mayte - on the Come album


The One


Have A Heart - most likely about Mayte, but in no way a flattering song about her


Here On Earth - really?? Uh, he had just married Manuela, so no - very doubtful...


Lion Of Judah - nope. Read the lyrics..."but I still adore you, adore you..."


Te Amo Corazon (LOOK AT THE VIDOE!!) - right..Prince started working with Bria at this time. Her actual last name is Fuentes, and he had met her years before when he was with Mayte smile


Walk In Sand - nope. He was dating Bria during this time, so most likely about her..


She Gave Her Angels


The Greatest Romance


A Million Days -nope. Prince recorded this song in 1995 NOT in 2004.


And God Created Woman


Love 2 The 9's - where is this confirmed?? Remember, he was also dating Carmen E during this time, and Nona Gaye too, and probably several more women...


Sexy MF - doubtful...see note right above this one..


The Morning Papers


Damn U - doubtful - he was with Carmen E at this time...


7


Magnificent - doubtful...he could have been referencing any number of women


Man O' War - probably, but not a love song at all...


Silly Games - doubtful, as this was recorded in early 1999


Greatest Romance Ever Been Sold - doubtful - this was not a "break-up" song/album...


Hypnoparadise - possibly, but doubtful as this was recorded 1998-99 time frame...


X's Face - do you know how many "X's" Prince had by the time he wrote this song???


U're Gonna C Me - most likely for Manuela, as it was written right before they were married...


I Wanna Melt With U - see comments next to Love 2 The 9's...


It's About That Walk - " "


Courtin Time


Betcha By Golly Wow


Sea of Everything - he was dating Bria at this time...


Strange But True - nope. He recorded this song when he was technically still with Mayte. Read the lyrics again...


Extraordinatory - probably, but a very "uninspired" song...


The Dance - doubtful as this was most likely recorded btw 1999-2001...


Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife


Saviour - probably, but again - not the most inspired of his ballads...


The Sun, Moon, Stars - "And when you start to fall, you come like a cold winter due in Montreal"...Manuela - from Canada..


All The Midnights In The World -doubt it as it was recorded in 2007



....I'm sure there are more I'm not aware of



The same woman whose initial he incorporated into his symbol to form their family crest. The woman he made the center of his life. Yet sadly, the same woman he betrayed but continued to speak of to his associates and continued to call THE love of his life years after their divorce. - doubtful....very very doubtful...



End of discussion...lock this thread LMAO



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Nah....not even close, because you are waaaaay off with your assumptions here...


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Regarding "3 Chains O' Gold"...have you actually READ the lyrics to the song??? Here are the first two verses, so that you can see this song is about a former lover....


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If I don't think about the fact that she left me
If I don't see the pearls fall from the sky
If I don't hear the accusations of blasphemy
If I don't feel the tears in my eyes
This is the best day of my life
You say you'll call me and then and then you don't
I'll want to kiss you and then I won't
We both do nothing and call it love
Is this love?
Is this love?

This morning I wanted a cup of coffee
But I didn't have any cream
Last night I wanted some inspiration
But I didn't have any dreams
Coupled with the fact that you belong to another
Whose name is self-righteousness
So evil girl, if one of us has a date
With the undertaker, which one will it be?
You can cry forever, but you'll get no sympathy
This is the best day of my life




^^^ See my notes in red above.... biggrin





According to Prince and Mayte's wedding program, put together by Prince, the Love Symbol album includes "a collection of love songs mostly written 4 and about Mayte." Prince met Mayte a year before he met Carmen and two years before he met Nona Gaye. He was already writing the album 6 months after meeting Mayte before anyone knew who a Tara was.


-Damn U


-Love 2 the 9's


-And God Created Woman


-The Morning Papers


-Sexy MF (his guitar tecn confirmed)


-The Continental


-Arrogance (the song isn't about Mayte but he sure does refer to her in the lyrics)


-I Wanna Melt With U (what other woman was walking around wearing ankle chains??)



The One Nite Alone album was recorded in early 2001. He wasn't married to his second wife at the time and all of these songs refer to a man longing for someone he lost or pissed at a lover he's no longer with.


-Here On Earth


-Ur Gonna C Me


-Pearls B4 Swine


-Have A Heart


-Arboretum



I shouldn't have to say anything about the Emancipation album. Prince said over and over and over again in 1996, 1997 and 1998, the second disc of the Emancipation album was inspire by and written for his wife. If that's not enough, EMI released a press release saying "the love songs on the Emancipation CD are in large measure a dedication to his new wife." Just because you don't believe it or understand the song doesn't mean it ain't true.


-Joint 2 Joint


-Right Back Here In My Arms


-Courtin Time


-Betcha By Golly Wow


-Damned If Eye Do (she's in the song!!!)


-Sex In The Summer (he says her name throughout the song!!)


-One Kiss At A Time


-Soul Sanctuary


-Curious Child


-Dreamin' About U


-The Holy River


-Let's Have A Baby


-Friend Lover Sister Mother/Wife


-Saviour


-The Plan


-La La La Means Eye Love U



-I Like It There (find the interview and READ IT!!!)



-Te Amo Corazon (LOOK AT THE VIDEO & READ THE LYRICS!!!.....here are a few clues Morocco, a country Mayte and Prince vacationed many times while together, Adam and Eve, Prince used A&E to refer to he and Mayte many times throughout their marriage, Spanish to English translation book, the home grown garden, the birds, his salsa attempt, the song title "TE AMO" which he repeated over and over and over again in the song he wrote for their wedding FLSMW!!! It has nothing to do with Bria)



-Walk In Sand (who cares who he was dating at the time....the women he was dating didn't inspire the song....the clue is the mural in Mayte and Prince's bedroom in Spain, the desert, the pyramids, dancing for royalty....the lyrics, what other woman was he dancing for royalty with?? You know, if he ever was in the present of British royalty or any royalty it would be reported just like it was reported when he met Prince Charles and performed in Monaco for Prince Albert!!!



-Sea of Everything (what other love of his life was photographed and appearing in magazines as much as Mayte was in at the time???



-Hypnoparadise (He talks about her being a hypnoparadise for him in a love letter from her book. They were married at the time it was written)



-Million Days (confirmed by engineer who the song was inspired by)



-The Sun, Moon, Stars (READ HIS INTERVIEW...he talks about when, where and who inspired the song)



-Strange But True (it was written during a difficult time in their marriage a year before they divorced. Yes, read the lyrics. Some of the most personal and heartfelt lyrics ever written by him and some of the words are identical to interviews given around the very same time!!!)



Who cares if any of the songs Mayte inspired were loving songs or not or whether you think the songs were "the most inspired ballads", she still inspired them. He was inspired by whatever was going on and greater affected his life. You may as well say she inspired The Rainbow Children's album because he sure as hell was shading her in several songs from the album.



I said the fictional 3 Chains O' Gold film was inspired by Mayte, not the song. The story is inspired by how they met and their relationship grew. The video cover says "In Egypt, princess Maytes father is assassinated by 7 men, leaving her with the sacred three chains of gold. She decides to seek out the help of Prince in USA, and sends him a tape of her dancing. Prince immediately falls in love with her, but is frightened by the commitment. He tries to escape through having sex with others, but his heart isn't in it. His heart belongs to Mayte... Prince's namechange into O)+> is also addressed.



Did I mention the libretto written for her or the ballet?



Did I mention their cute little family crest with his symbol and her initial entwined?



SHE INSPIRED HIM LIKE NO OTHER.



Then when you hear his associates (directors, engineers, makeup artists, singers, hair stylists) say how much he talked about her after they divorced and say to associates who never met Mayte, she was the love of his life, you realize how much more she continued to inspire after they divorced. Then when when one of his ex-girlfriends confirms it, it all starts to make sense. But you should expect it because she was the first woman he married and the only woman to have his child. He invested so much of his heart and soul to her then he betrayed her. A love like that doesn't disappear over night no matter how many other woman you're screwing.



Oh, and just because he's screwing you, dating you or married you, as in the case of M2, doesn't mean you greatly inspired him LMAO.



End of discussion.










So if he was so in live with M1, why did he treat her like shit, cheat on her, abandon her after their child's death??? Your logic makes no sense. Nobody can prove every song he wrote when he was married to M1 is about her because he was cheating on her since 1998 with Mani (2nd wife) who he left Mayte for. Also, Carmen Electra has a hand written note "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was written for her. So who was it really written for?? My guess every woman he'd probably slept with and those he hadn't yet. Meaning it was probably in reference to EVEEY woman. And I heard that's how he intended it to be viewed. Any woman he was with he wrote songs for, and usually produced them an album. Rumor has it M1 got pregnant before they were married to trap P into marrying him. Makes sense if you calculate her delivery date and their wedding date. She's said the baby was born premature, then in another interview said she carried the baby to term. Which is it? Then the shot gun wedding, phone proposal. It doesn't add up that this was a romantic marriage from the beginning. No way dogging her, because if she did that, it was a smart move for fame and fortune. But sadly things ended so tragically. That is not fair to anyone. But she shouldn't have been surprised he was cheating on her with Manuella and who knows who else? Mani had her troubles with P during her marriage with him as well. But she was smart and divorced him instead of continuing on with mind games. And I don't blame Prince. Any woman who got involved with him would be crazy to think he would be faithful to 1 woman. So no tears shed for anyone who was cheated on by him. They all were cheated on. And seemed to be ok with it, which I think is very odd. 🤷 Have some respect for yourself and find true love. True love doesnt hurt!!! BTW many women are the same and cannot be faithful to 1 man. So you better know what your getting when you marry that type of person.

Co-sign on everything you've said here - in addition to my notes above yours. I think Mayte had it the worst out of all of his more serious relationships. 8 vital years of her life with a man who could not be monogamous or committed in a relationship.
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Reply #105 posted 01/26/19 2:53am

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violetcrush said:

Djohnson said:



So if he was so in live with M1, why did he treat her like shit, cheat on her, abandon her after their child's death??? Your logic makes no sense. Nobody can prove every song he wrote when he was married to M1 is about her because he was cheating on her since 1998 with Mani (2nd wife) who he left Mayte for. Also, Carmen Electra has a hand written note "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" was written for her. So who was it really written for?? My guess every woman he'd probably slept with and those he hadn't yet. Meaning it was probably in reference to EVEEY woman. And I heard that's how he intended it to be viewed. Any woman he was with he wrote songs for, and usually produced them an album. Rumor has it M1 got pregnant before they were married to trap P into marrying him. Makes sense if you calculate her delivery date and their wedding date. She's said the baby was born premature, then in another interview said she carried the baby to term. Which is it? Then the shot gun wedding, phone proposal. It doesn't add up that this was a romantic marriage from the beginning. No way dogging her, because if she did that, it was a smart move for fame and fortune. But sadly things ended so tragically. That is not fair to anyone. But she shouldn't have been surprised he was cheating on her with Manuella and who knows who else? Mani had her troubles with P during her marriage with him as well. But she was smart and divorced him instead of continuing on with mind games. And I don't blame Prince. Any woman who got involved with him would be crazy to think he would be faithful to 1 woman. So no tears shed for anyone who was cheated on by him. They all were cheated on. And seemed to be ok with it, which I think is very odd. 🤷 Have some respect for yourself and find true love. True love doesnt hurt!!! BTW many women are the same and cannot be faithful to 1 man. So you better know what your getting when you marry that type of person.

Co-sign on everything you've said here - in addition to my notes above yours. I think Mayte had it the worst out of all of his more serious relationships. 8 vital years of her life with a man who could not be monogamous or committed in a relationship.


Mayte wasn't in a relationship with him for 8 yrs! She knew him as an underaged child! They weren't intimate until she was 19 she admitted. People sure do stretch the truth. Shame on her parents for allowing her into that messed up world at such a young age. All to exploit for money and fame. Prince was a great musician, best of all times in my book. But he was truly a human tampon. Still these ladies and baby girls should have never trusted a middle aged man with their hearts or minds. Yes M1 went through a lot, but so have many other women who have lost children. I know some who lost 2 teenagers. The publicity over it is to take in more cash since Prince's death. That's wrong to make money off a dead child and dead ex husband. Do i feel sorry for what she went through ABSOLUTELY. But Prince and ANY of his former exes were just people. We're all the same and die the same. Death of the human body inevetible. People need to be aware of the evilness of money and greed here on earth. That's far more important then making some cash off of Prince's legacy. That goes for all the women who's been in his life at one time or another. Goodness sakes let the man RIP.
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Reply #106 posted 01/26/19 5:02am

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Manuela.

What?
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Reply #107 posted 01/26/19 5:17am

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Djohnson said:

violetcrush said:
Co-sign on everything you've said here - in addition to my notes above yours. I think Mayte had it the worst out of all of his more serious relationships. 8 vital years of her life with a man who could not be monogamous or committed in a relationship.
Mayte wasn't in a relationship with him for 8 yrs! She knew him as an underaged child! They weren't intimate until she was 19 she admitted. People sure do stretch the truth. Shame on her parents for allowing her into that messed up world at such a young age. All to exploit for money and fame. Prince was a great musician, best of all times in my book. But he was truly a human tampon. Still these ladies and baby girls should have never trusted a middle aged man with their hearts or minds. Yes M1 went through a lot, but so have many other women who have lost children. I know some who lost 2 teenagers. The publicity over it is to take in more cash since Prince's death. That's wrong to make money off a dead child and dead ex husband. Do i feel sorry for what she went through ABSOLUTELY. But Prince and ANY of his former exes were just people. We're all the same and die the same. Death of the human body inevetible. People need to be aware of the evilness of money and greed here on earth. That's far more important then making some cash off of Prince's legacy. That goes for all the women who's been in his life at one time or another. Goodness sakes let the man RIP.

Are you kidding? She's not making money off of her dead child! She was not allowed to talk about Ahmir, in that Oprah interview she had to act like everything was fine, to please her husband! Are you kidding right now?

Everybody has a right to write a book about their experience. And she certainly has the right to talk about her son. I remember an interview from a mother who has lost her son at the Sandy Hook massacre and she said: "If I wasn't allowed to talk about him, it would be like he'd die again." Mayte was not allowed to talk about her child, because Prince didn't want it. If he did not want to talk, fine, his decision, but he had no fucking right to tell his wife to act like everything is okay.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


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Reply #108 posted 01/26/19 5:37am

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Djohnson, I don't care if anybody dislikes the book you know. To each their own. But what I can't stand is people trying to dictate what a person can talk about and what not, especially when it comes to their own children. This is the only thing that's pissing me off regarding Mayte, because people tend to forget that it was her child too and that she wanted to talk about him, but she did not to respect his wishes. She respected his wish and what did he do? he left her alone, grieving the death of their child.

I love Prince, he'll always be the best musician, in my opinion, but like I said before, that is the only thing that I really dislike about him, how he treated his women, not only Mayte, but all of them.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."


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Reply #109 posted 01/26/19 7:11am

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TheTruth123 said:

purplekyng3121 said:

unless video or written proof in the vault coming from prince himself everything is specualation.nobody knows what prince really loved other than music

Prince was obsessed with youth which stemmed from not wanting to get older himself and he often fell victim to obsessions with young women. We have to remember that he was human and like the rest of us had his wounds and traumas, if not more than most. I have read that his childhood was NO piece of cake. [Edited 1/23/19 7:52am]

that can all be viewed as specualtion as well. u speaking as if u knew him personally

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Reply #110 posted 01/26/19 7:16am

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Djohnson said:

violetcrush said:
Co-sign on everything you've said here - in addition to my notes above yours. I think Mayte had it the worst out of all of his more serious relationships. 8 vital years of her life with a man who could not be monogamous or committed in a relationship.
Mayte wasn't in a relationship with him for 8 yrs! She knew him as an underaged child! They weren't intimate until she was 19 she admitted. People sure do stretch the truth. Shame on her parents for allowing her into that messed up world at such a young age. All to exploit for money and fame. Prince was a great musician, best of all times in my book. But he was truly a human tampon. Still these ladies and baby girls should have never trusted a middle aged man with their hearts or minds. Yes M1 went through a lot, but so have many other women who have lost children. I know some who lost 2 teenagers. The publicity over it is to take in more cash since Prince's death. That's wrong to make money off a dead child and dead ex husband. Do i feel sorry for what she went through ABSOLUTELY. But Prince and ANY of his former exes were just people. We're all the same and die the same. Death of the human body inevetible. People need to be aware of the evilness of money and greed here on earth. That's far more important then making some cash off of Prince's legacy. That goes for all the women who's been in his life at one time or another. Goodness sakes let the man RIP.

Right - my comment about the "8 vital years" was not implying that she was intimate with him at 16-17 yrs old. My point was that she was placed at PP at way too young an age to deal with all that was going on in that environment, and to handle any kind of relationship with Prince - working or otherwise. Also, not 100% sure I buy the 'I was 19 when I lost my virginity", as Prince was notorious for the "18 and Over" rule. I would imagine there were some things happening - even if she was "technically" still a virgin at 18.

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I have no problem with Mayte telling her story, however, she was attempting to profit from her time with him prior to his death, and the video clips of her mocking him during the stint she did on Hollywood Ex's are far from flattering. I think we got "the real" Mayte after Prince divorced her. However, she was also still very young at that time - young people tend to make bad choices.

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The thing that really got me was the video clip of her belly dancing class in Vegas, where she's using Prince's music (Computer Blue? Really?? A. you were 10 yrs old when that song was released and B. how does that mesh with belly dancing??), and also selling the prince merchandise - so so tacky.

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Reply #111 posted 01/26/19 7:27am

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Djohnson, I don't care if anybody dislikes the book you know. To each their own. But what I can't stand is people trying to dictate what a person can talk about and what not, especially when it comes to their own children. This is the only thing that's pissing me off regarding Mayte, because people tend to forget that it was her child too and that she wanted to talk about him, but she did not to respect his wishes. She respected his wish and what did he do? he left her alone, grieving the death of their child.

I love Prince, he'll always be the best musician, in my opinion, but like I said before, that is the only thing that I really dislike about him, how he treated his women, not only Mayte, but all of them.

Right. We know there were many many issues when it came to Prince and his personal relationships. I cringe when thinking of that Oprah interview, however, it was a very tough situation all around, because Prince also had the Emancipation album to promote and sell, which he had been building up in the press for over a year. The appearances had already been scheduled. Financially, he was not in a great place either. He had to market that record. It was just a terrible tragedy and terrible timing all around.

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I agree, she should not have been left alone so soon after the child's death, but Prince was not that guy who was going to stop doing the music and just lay in bed with her. I believe what Mayte stated was that he said, "I can't be here - I have to get out of here..." or something similar. Everyone grieves in different ways, and some run away from it. Not surprising that Prince would handle it in that way.

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My feeling on the books and interviews is the same. The women and associates have their own personal stories which had not been shared. I just didn't like seeing some of the things she was doing prior to Prince's death.

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Reply #112 posted 01/26/19 10:54am

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@violetcrush I don’t have the energy to read your book you posted in response to me correcting you, but I have to correct you about when Mayte Garcia first came to Paisley Park. It was December of 1990, and she made frequent trips there from Germany until she graduated from high school in spring 1991 when she ultimately moved there. Interesting to note, around the time of her first trip to Paisley he recorded an early version of “7” and pulled “She’s Just A Baby” out of the vault.

You mention “Sex In The Summer”, the song where he says Mayte’s name at least twice. Yes, they were hanging out on the beach. His buddy was looking for the girls while Prince was yelling “where’s Mayte?”.

That’s all I have for you. I couldn’t read the rest of your post.
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Reply #113 posted 01/26/19 10:59am

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what do u think he meant to imply when he was told that "his future wife" was was an "angel"??

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@violetcrush I don’t have the energy to read your book you posted in response to me correcting you, but I have to correct you about when Mayte Garcia first came to Paisley Park. It was December of 1990, and she made frequent trips there from Germany until she graduated from high school in spring 1991 when she ultimately moved there. Interesting to note, around the time of her first trip to Paisley he recorded an early version of “7” and pulled “She’s Just A Baby” out of the vault. You mention “Sex In The Summer”, the song where he says Mayte’s name at least twice. Yes, they were hanging out on the beach. His buddy was looking for the girls while Prince was yelling “where’s Mayte?”. That’s all I have for you. I couldn’t read the rest of your post. [Edited 1/26/19 10:58am]

#truth

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You all do realize that he did have sex with girls under the age of 18, right? In other countries the age of consent is much younger then 18.



Mayte said he waited to have intercourse with her til she was 18, but there was plenty of other stuff going on. So sexual things were happening with the ones who were under the age of 18.


He may have slept in a bed with somebody for 4 months, but I guarantee there was heavy petting going on, no matter if they were 16 or 17.


It is difficult to understand how someone in their 30's was attached to 15, 16, 17 year olds.

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Reply #116 posted 01/26/19 11:23am

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amethyst68 said:

@violetcrush I don’t have the energy to read your book you posted in response to me correcting you, but I have to correct you about when Mayte Garcia first came to Paisley Park. It was December of 1990, and she made frequent trips there from Germany until she graduated from high school in spring 1991 when she ultimately moved there. Interesting to note, around the time of her first trip to Paisley he recorded an early version of “7” and pulled “She’s Just A Baby” out of the vault. You mention “Sex In The Summer”, the song where he says Mayte’s name at least twice. Yes, they were hanging out on the beach. His buddy was looking for the girls while Prince was yelling “where’s Mayte?”. That’s all I have for you. I couldn’t read the rest of your post. [Edited 1/26/19 10:58am]

#truth

Wow, okay so December of '90....one month prior to January of '91. Yes, it was such a "stretch" of the time frame there. Come on!! And AGAIN, she had not officially moved to MN at that point. Seriously, we all know the time frame for her arrival at this point. And she was a 16 yr old sending her belly dancing tapes to Prince for his enjoyment shocked Shame, shame on her Mother for forcing and brokering that situation. I have an 11 yr old daughter, and I get a pit in my stomach even picturing putting her in that environment at 16-17 yrs old. What the hell was she thinking?? Oh wait, I know.....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ KA-CHING mad Even her Mother would have read about Prince's reputation with women by that point.

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Okay, so Prince pulling "She's Just A Baby" out of the Vault - a song he originally wrote for his girlfriend Susan Moonsie somehow signifies something special??? I would say it just mimics yet another young one he is bringing in to the mix.

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Sex In The Summer:

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Sex in the summer, getting it on
Give me that number, we can party all night long
Checking for bikinis, laying in the sand
Rub it like a genie, living while we can

[Verse 2]
Everybody's got a black book in case of emergency
In case the sun is shining at the beach and the honeys are out to play
The cool boys just a-watching all the pretty moves you make
Fronting in the sun, jamming for the one lover that you wanna take home

Sex in the summer, getting it on
Give me that number, we can party all night long
Checking for bikinis, laying in the sand
Rub it like a genie, living while we can

[Outro]
Sex in the summer, getting it on
Give me that number, we can party all night long
Sex in the summer
Sex in the summer
Get it on!
Sex in the summer
Right on!
Get it on!
Sex in the summer

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Oh yes, it seems he really had Mayte on the brain during the writing of this song Yeah, I'm sure that was his focus while he's oggling the girls in bikinis and getting numbers lol

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Look, I'm not saying that he did not care for or love Mayte. My point here is that she was no different than the others. If there hadn't been a pregnancy, I don't think there would have been a marriage.

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Prince's discussion with a journalist for Time Out magazine in March 1995:

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Aaaah.’ Big pause. He looks away. All right then. What about marriage, then? Any plans to singlehandedly put Durex out of business by having lots of little princes?

’Not really,’ smirks the compact sex symbol. ’I decided that things like family don’t have a big part to play in my future. I’m dedicated to music, to the point that I see all of life through it.’

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Reply #117 posted 01/26/19 11:34am

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PennyPurple said:

You all do realize that he did have sex with girls under the age of 18, right? In other countries the age of consent is much younger then 18.



Mayte said he waited to have intercourse with her til she was 18, but there was plenty of other stuff going on. So sexual things were happening with the ones who were under the age of 18.


He may have slept in a bed with somebody for 4 months, but I guarantee there was heavy petting going on, no matter if they were 16 or 17.


It is difficult to understand how someone in their 30's was attached to 15, 16, 17 year olds.

Oh geez!!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!! PennyPurple and I actually AGREE on something smile

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Seriously, I agree 100%, and this began way back at 20-22 yrs old when he started a relationship with Susan Moonsie when she was 16 yrs old - hence "She's Just A Baby" and "Private Joy". There was something going on there. I happen to think that Prince was very insecure as a younger guy - completely understandable with his size and personality - and just because he became a celebrity rock star does not mean those insecurities disappear. In fact, it's probably worse, because he's now got models, actresses, etc going after him.

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The younger girls no doubt gave him a feeling of emotional and physical control both in and out of the bedroom. Easier to manipulate for sure. They were inexperienced in every way. And I'm sure the whole vibe of Prince being the "first" was a huge turn-on for him. However, it wasn't always the younger girls - Kim Basinger was older, Susannah - yes, she was 19 when they met, but they were involved through her mid-20's. Vanity was older too. But yes, I imagine the majority were the 16-18 yr old crew.

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Reply #118 posted 01/26/19 11:37am

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Mayte describes in her book that she didn't move to Minneapolis until after November 1992. She was 19 then. She lived in an apartment, not at PP, at least until March 1993. Their intimate relationship started in February 1993. Again per her very own book.
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Reply #119 posted 01/26/19 11:56am

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Mayte describes in her book that she didn't move to Minneapolis until after November 1992. She was 19 then. She lived in an apartment, not at PP, at least until March 1993. Their intimate relationship started in February 1993. Again per her very own book.

Hmmm, well per Princevault she was already on stage dancing as early as August 19, 1991(at the Ritz in NY) with Diamond and Pearl. That does not make sense then, because she would have been practicing at PP for those performances. So, something is "off" with that situation.

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All the "girls" were put up in apartments when they moved to MN. They did not live at the Galpin house or at PP. Maybe they got units at that "stone circle" residence too smile .

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I guess it's possible that she didn't have sex with Prince until Feb '93, but no way do I believe that there weren't other things going on prior to that time. Carmen was in the mix until some point on the 1992 D&P tour. Prince cancelled her opening show, because it was not good.

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At the same time, Prince was seeing Vanessa Marcil (although I think that was brief), Nona Gaye, and no doubt a handful of others.

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It's also important to note that as late as Summer of 1995 Prince had a group of beautiful "groupies" running around PP. They were given pagers, and would be "summoned" at any given time. Check out the story here from a guy who worked at PP during that time -very good story about how he managed to work for Prince, but it's long. The PP girls are discussed probably around the halfway mark when he talks about the offices moving to PP and the Summer concerts:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br1Q0-U5NSo

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