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Thread started 02/05/17 11:48pm

TrivialPursuit

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Who Remembers The Jets? (Crush On You, You Got It All)

St. Paul sent out a video earlier of "You Got it All" on the radio, and noted it was his first gold record, and the good memories he had when hearing it.

The band is from Minneapolis, but the players were quite notable.

David Z produced it. Coke Johnson engineered it. Other folks playing were St. Paul, Ricky Peterson, & Matt Fink.

As an interesting side note: I had no idea that Rupert "Escape (Pina Colada)" Holmes wrote "You Got It All"!

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Reply #1 posted 02/06/17 12:08am

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That was the very first album I ever bought. I still have it somewhere...I'll have to dig it out. I had no idea all those people were involved.
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Reply #2 posted 02/06/17 12:40pm

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Wow, I too did not realize all of those people were involved, nor that the band is from Minneapolis. I enjoyed their radio hits back in the day. Just within the past week I saw the video for "You Got It All" on MTV Classic. Took me way back!
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Reply #3 posted 02/06/17 12:57pm

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^^^ I didn't realize it either. St. Paul worked a lot as a studio and session musician. He and fDeluxe member Oliver Lieber were all over Paula Abdul's Forever Your Girl album. Oliver wrote a lot of those hits on her album.

Here's the liner notes for The Jets:

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Reply #4 posted 02/06/17 3:06pm

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This is so interesting, I had no idea about Forever Your Girl either. That is one of my favorites, few albums can send me so directly back to high school. It is quite a trip for me whenever I hear these songs, we used to listen to it A LOT on bus trips, traveling for school events lol. I remember Robert Smith saying in an interview he loved this (well I can't remember if he was saying Forever Your Girl the song or album) too it reminded him of a particularly great party the band had one night biggrin

Thank you for posting the liner notes, very cool to see!

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Reply #5 posted 02/06/17 3:22pm

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Ahhh.. The Jets. Memories. I had no idea they were from MPLS! I did a lip sync concert in middle school to "Crush On You" with my best friends back then. We had even choreographed our dance from watching video on MTV . music

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Reply #6 posted 02/06/17 5:08pm

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eightiesbrat said:

This is so interesting, I had no idea about Forever Your Girl either. That is one of my favorites, few albums can send me so directly back to high school. It is quite a trip for me whenever I hear these songs, we used to listen to it A LOT on bus trips, traveling for school events lol. I remember Robert Smith saying in an interview he loved this (well I can't remember if he was saying Forever Your Girl the song or album) too it reminded him of a particularly great party the band had one night biggrin

Thank you for posting the liner notes, very cool to see!


I learned in the last few years about Paul & Oliver being a big part of Forever Your Girl. And I have the CD; just never read the liner notes. I always enjoyed the CD. Just fun pop songs on there.

Paul played keyboards and bass prominently on "Opposites Attract", among working on other tunes. Keith Cohen, who also did remixes for Prince in the early 90s, worked on the record. Eddie M played sax, and Jesse Johnson played on the same song that was written by Ta Mara ("I Need You"). Paul's brother Ricky Peterson worked on the album, too.

Just good Minneapolis synergy. People think these off-shoot groups of Prince never work again, or just muddle in club dates here and there. But the fact is folks like St. Paul, who come from musical pedigrees, have played since they were kids, and continued to work whether they were putting out records of their own or not. Paul toured with so many folks, including Kenny Loggins for years.

The Jets were a Mormon family from Minneapolis, who later ended up making religious music. But now three brothers are suing and fighting the other siblings (and some spouses) for using the name, etc etc etc, blah blah. It's apparently a pretty big rift in the family.

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Reply #7 posted 02/06/17 6:19pm

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You Got It All brings back memories
Never knew the MN connection.
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Reply #8 posted 02/06/17 6:59pm

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I'm pretty sure The Jets recorded some of their second album at Paisley Park (the one with "Rocket 2 U"). Same with Paula Abdul's "Forever Your Girl" album.

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Just checked the release dates...not so sure about the Jets, but I'm pretty sure Paula was recording at the Park...

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Reply #9 posted 02/06/17 9:42pm

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UncleJam said:

I'm pretty sure The Jets recorded some of their second album at Paisley Park (the one with "Rocket 2 U"). Same with Paula Abdul's "Forever Your Girl" album.

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Just checked the release dates...not so sure about the Jets, but I'm pretty sure Paula was recording at the Park...


I don't think that's necessarily true. There were a lot of recording places used for Paula's album. But Paisley Park is not one of them. The Petersons have access to other studios besides PP in Minneapolis. Plus they, and people like Oliver Lieber, work from either coast more than anywhere else. It'd be cool if it were true, but it doesn't add up for me.

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Reply #10 posted 02/07/17 1:42am

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I remember in 1986,there were rumors that the Jets were gonna open some dates on Prince's Parade Tour.Those plans never materialized,but it was reported that Prince was really impressed with this group.I have their first two albums on vinyl.Interestingly,Prince offered them the track "Neon Telephone" for their second album,but they turned it down.One of the male members said that they simply didn't like it very much.

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Reply #11 posted 02/07/17 1:46am

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UncleJam said:

I'm pretty sure The Jets recorded some of their second album at Paisley Park (the one with "Rocket 2 U").

The video for the first single "I Do You" was filmed at Paisley Park.

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Reply #12 posted 02/08/17 1:46am

SoulAlive

an interesting story about this song.The track was written/produced by Bobby Nunn (the Motown funk artist who scored a big hit,"She's Just A Groupie",a few years earlier).He was good friends with Philip Bailey of Earth Wind and Fire and so he submitted the song to EW&F.They wanted to record it for their 1987 reunion album Touch The World.The problem is,he had also submitted the demo to The Jets and their label wanted them to record it for their second album,Magic.Their label (MCA Records) ended up paying more money for it and offering Nunn a production deal as part of the bargain,so it was given to the Jets.It became a decent-sized hit for them in late '87.

UncleJam said:

"Rocket 2 U"

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Reply #13 posted 02/08/17 7:38am

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SoulAlive said:



UncleJam said:


I'm pretty sure The Jets recorded some of their second album at Paisley Park (the one with "Rocket 2 U").




The video for the first single "I Do You" was filmed at Paisley Park.





Oh, this is fantastic! Thank you 🙂
Hearing these old songs makes me miss Prince more than ever, for I know this was part of the years he was still coming up, and our youth.
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Reply #14 posted 02/08/17 7:39am

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TrivialPursuit said:

St. Paul sent out a video earlier of "You Got it All" on the radio, and noted it was his first gold record, and the good memories he had when hearing it.

The band is from Minneapolis, but the players were quite notable.



David Z produced it. Coke Johnson engineered it. Other folks playing were St. Paul, Ricky Peterson, & Matt Fink.

As an interesting side note: I had no idea that Rupert "Escape (Pina Colada)" Holmes wrote "You Got It All"!



Thanks - this is terrific!
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Reply #15 posted 02/08/17 1:14pm

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SoulAlive said:

UncleJam said:

I'm pretty sure The Jets recorded some of their second album at Paisley Park (the one with "Rocket 2 U").

The video for the first single "I Do You" was filmed at Paisley Park.

I knew there was some Paisley connection with that second album...

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Reply #16 posted 02/08/17 1:44pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

eightiesbrat said:

This is so interesting, I had no idea about Forever Your Girl either. That is one of my favorites, few albums can send me so directly back to high school. It is quite a trip for me whenever I hear these songs, we used to listen to it A LOT on bus trips, traveling for school events lol. I remember Robert Smith saying in an interview he loved this (well I can't remember if he was saying Forever Your Girl the song or album) too it reminded him of a particularly great party the band had one night biggrin

Thank you for posting the liner notes, very cool to see!


I learned in the last few years about Paul & Oliver being a big part of Forever Your Girl. And I have the CD; just never read the liner notes. I always enjoyed the CD. Just fun pop songs on there.

Paul played keyboards and bass prominently on "Opposites Attract", among working on other tunes. Keith Cohen, who also did remixes for Prince in the early 90s, worked on the record. Eddie M played sax, and Jesse Johnson played on the same song that was written by Ta Mara ("I Need You"). Paul's brother Ricky Peterson worked on the album, too.

Just good Minneapolis synergy. People think these off-shoot groups of Prince never work again, or just muddle in club dates here and there. But the fact is folks like St. Paul, who come from musical pedigrees, have played since they were kids, and continued to work whether they were putting out records of their own or not. Paul toured with so many folks, including Kenny Loggins for years.

The Jets were a Mormon family from Minneapolis, who later ended up making religious music. But now three brothers are suing and fighting the other siblings (and some spouses) for using the name, etc etc etc, blah blah. It's apparently a pretty big rift in the family.


The Oliver Leiber and Jesse connection go back to Ta Mara and The Seen's first album in 1985 where Oliver is credited as being The Seen's guitarist. But like Prince's side projects, who knows how many of those guys on the cover actually played on the Ta Mara albums.

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sexton said:

The Oliver Leiber and Jesse connection go back to Ta Mara and The Seen's first album in 1985 where Oliver is credited as being The Seen's guitarist. But like Prince's side projects, who knows how many of those guys on the cover actually played on the Ta Mara albums.


Well, Ta Mara wasn't a Prince project, it was Jesse's project. Although she later recorded with Prince in a failed album deal. I can't see Jesse crediting Oliver without him having actually played on it.

I was watching "Crazay" the other day, and looking at credits on Jesse's albums. So much of the 2nd version of The Time ended up in his band. Rocky Harris, Gerry Hubbard, Mark Cardenes (sp)...those guys in and around the Time in 1984. The Time didn't just split into The Family, it split into Jesse Johnson's Revue too. Even Sonny Thompson played with Jesse around the end of this first three albums.

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Reply #18 posted 02/08/17 4:22pm

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Curiosity reminded me of the extended version of Little Red Corvette.

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TrivialPursuit said:

sexton said:

The Oliver Leiber and Jesse connection go back to Ta Mara and The Seen's first album in 1985 where Oliver is credited as being The Seen's guitarist. But like Prince's side projects, who knows how many of those guys on the cover actually played on the Ta Mara albums.


Well, Ta Mara wasn't a Prince project, it was Jesse's project. Although she later recorded with Prince in a failed album deal. I can't see Jesse crediting Oliver without him having actually played on it.

I was watching "Crazay" the other day, and looking at credits on Jesse's albums. So much of the 2nd version of The Time ended up in his band. Rocky Harris, Gerry Hubbard, Mark Cardenes (sp)...those guys in and around the Time in 1984. The Time didn't just split into The Family, it split into Jesse Johnson's Revue too. Even Sonny Thompson played with Jesse around the end of this first three albums.


Yes, I know all about Ta Mara's relationships with both Jesse Johnson and Prince. When I said "like Prince's side projects", the implication was that Jesse has said he learned a lot from Prince so it would not have surprised me if one day Oliver Leiber said the Seen on the first album was just the touring band.

But you are probably right, the credits on the second Ta Mara and the Seen are very forthright in saying Jesse was The Seen and played all the instruments so there's no reason to think one album would have sincere liner notes while the other wouldn't.

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Reply #20 posted 02/09/17 1:12am

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TrivialPursuit said:

The Jets were a Mormon family from Minneapolis, who later ended up making religious music. But now three brothers are suing and fighting the other siblings (and some spouses) for using the name, etc etc etc, blah blah. It's apparently a pretty big rift in the family.

confused That's sad to hear.I would love to see an Unsung episode on the Jets.They had two albums that sold well then they seemingly disappeared.

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Reply #21 posted 02/10/17 1:18pm

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The very first concert I ever went to was a package tour in 1986 with like 5 or 6 bands. I don't remember all of them, but The Jets were one of the artists. I went to see Morris Day who was #2 on the bill with New Edition headlineing.

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St. Paul tweeted a few days ago about how "You Got It All" was his first gold record, I think.

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Reply #23 posted 02/10/17 3:24pm

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GuyBros said:

St. Paul tweeted a few days ago about how "You Got It All" was his first gold record, I think.


Uh, did you read the original post? I specifically noted that being the genesis of this thread.

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Reply #24 posted 02/10/17 3:43pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

GuyBros said:

St. Paul tweeted a few days ago about how "You Got It All" was his first gold record, I think.


Uh, did you read the original post? I specifically noted that being the genesis of this thread.

Yep. You linked to the instagram. I've added that my reading about this was with regards to the tweet as I don't have or follow instagram.

Also, don't come at me sideways over some bullshit.

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Reply #25 posted 02/10/17 5:16pm

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Yep. You linked to the instagram. I've added that my reading about this was with regards to the tweet as I don't have or follow instagram.

Also, don't come at me sideways over some bullshit.

Thanks!


I only come out the front, boo.

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Reply #26 posted 02/10/17 5:33pm

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I remember them I loved Crush on You (1985) music

And from the Beverly Hills 2 Soundtrack (1987) Cross My Broken Heart written and produced by Madonna's producer Steven Bray (The Breakfast Club, True Blue fame)

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TrivialPursuit said:

GuyBros said:

Yep. You linked to the instagram. I've added that my reading about this was with regards to the tweet as I don't have or follow instagram.

Also, don't come at me sideways over some bullshit.

Thanks!


I only come out the front, boo.

So you admit that your attempted correction was some petty concern about having discussed a tweet first?

Girl bye.

You can have it.

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Reply #28 posted 02/10/17 6:05pm

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The very first concert I ever went to was a package tour in 1986 with like 5 or 6 bands. I don't remember all of them, but The Jets were one of the artists.



I saw The Jets in concert in March 1986 with Ready For The World and Doug E Fresh w/Slick Rick smile "Crush On You" had just been released as the second single from their album.Their performance was great.

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SoulAlive said:

Rhastus said:

The very first concert I ever went to was a package tour in 1986 with like 5 or 6 bands. I don't remember all of them, but The Jets were one of the artists.

I saw The Jets in concert in March 1986 with Ready For The World and Doug E Fresh w/Slick Rick smile "Crush On You" had just been released as the second single from their album.Their performance was great.

Must have been an interesting tour.

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