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Reply #120 posted 10/03/16 5:43am

FlyOnTheWall

endiadj said:

rogifan said:

endiadj said: This may sound harsh but at this point people need to get over the no public memorial. A public memorial for a celebrity is the exception not the rule. Most celebrities don't have them.

Of course I'll get over it, cause I have to, but it doesn't mean it just seems wrong. Ex-wives wouldn't have needed to put on their own to mourn him. Maybe it would've helped people/fans heal faster, better. It's just seems incomplete, imo. He deserved a public memorial. He should've had one.

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I agree. nod

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Reply #121 posted 10/03/16 8:36am

babynoz

rogifan said:

endiadj said:

I know firsthand, it doesn't mean ish to some.

I'm still reeling over no public memorial for this megastar. Can't get my head around it. sad

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This may sound harsh but at this point people need to get over the no public memorial. A public memorial for a celebrity is the exception not the rule. Most celebrities don't have them.



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Reply #122 posted 10/03/16 9:47am

rogifan

endiadj said:



rogifan said:


endiadj said:


I know firsthand, it doesn't mean ish to some.



I'm still reeling over no public memorial for this megastar. Can't get my head around it. sad


[Edited 10/2/16 13:19pm]



This may sound harsh but at this point people need to get over the no public memorial. A public memorial for a celebrity is the exception not the rule. Most celebrities don't have them.

Of course I'll get over it, cause I have to, but it doesn't mean it just seems wrong. Ex-wives wouldn't have needed to put on their own to mourn him. Maybe it would've helped people/fans heal faster, better. It's just seems incomplete, imo. He deserved a public memorial. He should've had one.

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I understand but I don't think he would have wanted it. And like I said public celebrity memorials are the exception not the rule. I may be in the minority here but I don't think it's the responsibility of the estate or the family to provide closure for the fans. Each fan has to find that on their own, in their own way.
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Reply #123 posted 10/03/16 10:07am

endiadj

rogifan said:

endiadj said:

Of course I'll get over it, cause I have to, but it doesn't mean it just seems wrong. Ex-wives wouldn't have needed to put on their own to mourn him. Maybe it would've helped people/fans heal faster, better. It's just seems incomplete, imo. He deserved a public memorial. He should've had one.

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I understand but I don't think he would have wanted it. And like I said public celebrity memorials are the exception not the rule. I may be in the minority here but I don't think it's the responsibility of the estate or the family to provide closure for the fans. Each fan has to find that on their own, in their own way.

A public memorial is not for the deceased, it's for the fans, family, friends, ex's. It's a public laying to rest and thank you to that person, especially a public figure. A public goodbye to him for everyone to experience, whether you're there in person or watching on TV. I'm just unsettled by the absence of one for Prince because it's the norm for stars of his caliber. And, I guess, for me it's a personal thing. I've always felt Prince was under appreciated throughout his career from the media, critics and the general public. This was just another blow. sad

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Reply #124 posted 10/03/16 11:18am

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Is it the norm to have a public memorial, though? Besides MJ, what are some other examples?

endiadj said:

rogifan said:

endiadj said: I understand but I don't think he would have wanted it. And like I said public celebrity memorials are the exception not the rule. I may be in the minority here but I don't think it's the responsibility of the estate or the family to provide closure for the fans. Each fan has to find that on their own, in their own way.

A public memorial is not for the deceased, it's for the fans, family, friends, ex's. It's a public laying to rest and thank you to that person, especially a public figure. A public goodbye to him for everyone to experience, whether you're there in person or watching on TV. I'm just unsettled by the absence of one for Prince because it's the norm for stars of his caliber. And, I guess, for me it's a personal thing. I've always felt Prince was under appreciated throughout his career from the media, critics and the general public. This was just another blow. sad

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Reply #125 posted 10/03/16 11:39am

rogifan

disch said:

Is it the norm to have a public memorial, though? Besides MJ, what are some other examples?


Elvis's father ordered a public viewing of his casket. James Brown had one as well. Muhammad Ali's funeral was broadcast on TV. There are a few examples but it still is the exception not the norm.
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Reply #126 posted 10/03/16 11:45am

rogifan

endiadj said:



rogifan said:


endiadj said:


Of course I'll get over it, cause I have to, but it doesn't mean it just seems wrong. Ex-wives wouldn't have needed to put on their own to mourn him. Maybe it would've helped people/fans heal faster, better. It's just seems incomplete, imo. He deserved a public memorial. He should've had one.


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I understand but I don't think he would have wanted it. And like I said public celebrity memorials are the exception not the rule. I may be in the minority here but I don't think it's the responsibility of the estate or the family to provide closure for the fans. Each fan has to find that on their own, in their own way.

A public memorial is not for the deceased, it's for the fans, family, friends, ex's. It's a public laying to rest and thank you to that person, especially a public figure. A public goodbye to him for everyone to experience, whether you're there in person or watching on TV. I'm just unsettled by the absence of one for Prince because it's the norm for stars of his caliber. And, I guess, for me it's a personal thing. I've always felt Prince was under appreciated throughout his career from the media, critics and the general public. This was just another blow. sad


I agree with you about feeling Prince was under appreciated. But I think it was more the media and critics than than anyone else. I've watched many times interviews P has done in front of audiences and outside of MJ there is no other celebrity that got the crowd reaction P did. And I was really surprised after he passed how the US media (at least cable news and the morning shows) went wall to wall Prince coverage. It just showed me he was more beloved than I realized. This is why I want Paisley Park as a museum to be a success. Nothing that would make me sadder than seeing that fail. So I πŸ™πŸ» it doesn't.
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Reply #127 posted 10/03/16 12:11pm

endiadj

rogifan said:

endiadj said:

A public memorial is not for the deceased, it's for the fans, family, friends, ex's. It's a public laying to rest and thank you to that person, especially a public figure. A public goodbye to him for everyone to experience, whether you're there in person or watching on TV. I'm just unsettled by the absence of one for Prince because it's the norm for stars of his caliber. And, I guess, for me it's a personal thing. I've always felt Prince was under appreciated throughout his career from the media, critics and the general public. This was just another blow. sad

I agree with you about feeling Prince was under appreciated. But I think it was more the media and critics than than anyone else. I've watched many times interviews P has done in front of audiences and outside of MJ there is no other celebrity that got the crowd reaction P did. And I was really surprised after he passed how the US media (at least cable news and the morning shows) went wall to wall Prince coverage. It just showed me he was more beloved than I realized. This is why I want Paisley Park as a museum to be a success. Nothing that would make me sadder than seeing that fail. So I πŸ™πŸ» it doesn't.

Yeah, I was truly moved at how much outpouring there was from the media, especially, after his death. It surprised me a lot.

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Reply #128 posted 10/03/16 12:17pm

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endiadj said:

rogifan said:

endiadj said: I agree with you about feeling Prince was under appreciated. But I think it was more the media and critics than than anyone else. I've watched many times interviews P has done in front of audiences and outside of MJ there is no other celebrity that got the crowd reaction P did. And I was really surprised after he passed how the US media (at least cable news and the morning shows) went wall to wall Prince coverage. It just showed me he was more beloved than I realized. This is why I want Paisley Park as a museum to be a success. Nothing that would make me sadder than seeing that fail. So I πŸ™πŸ» it doesn't.

Yeah, I was truly moved at how much outpouring there was from the media, especially, after his death. It surprised me a lot.

I'm just glad it didn't turn into the longterm nightmarish MJ circus like I feared it would. What a relief.

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Reply #129 posted 10/03/16 2:04pm

babynoz

disch said:

Is it the norm to have a public memorial, though? Besides MJ, what are some other examples?

endiadj said:

A public memorial is not for the deceased, it's for the fans, family, friends, ex's. It's a public laying to rest and thank you to that person, especially a public figure. A public goodbye to him for everyone to experience, whether you're there in person or watching on TV. I'm just unsettled by the absence of one for Prince because it's the norm for stars of his caliber. And, I guess, for me it's a personal thing. I've always felt Prince was under appreciated throughout his career from the media, critics and the general public. This was just another blow. sad



It most certainly is not the norm.

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Reply #130 posted 10/04/16 12:08pm

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When her brother died people talked about her so bad it was just a shame. I may not agree with how Prince's memorial and such were handled, but he wasnt my brother and I guess considering the circumstances and her knowing his wishes she did the best she could. Im still pissed at the way all these Assoc artist and ex wives have been trying to cash in on Prince's death, but I have always had respect for Tyka and her struggles in life wink

RIP Prince I will forever heart and miss U
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Reply #131 posted 10/04/16 12:45pm

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RJOrion said:

Tyka apperently had her brother cremated while his body was still warm... supposedly upon his wishes, but theres no will to document these wishes? ive been looking at her sideways ever since...to be brutally honest, SNIP-OF4S...i call bs, too...

eek damn

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Reply #132 posted 10/05/16 9:42am

CharlieGriffin

Genesia said:

RJOrion said:

Tyka apperently had her brother cremated while his body was still warm... supposedly upon his wishes, but theres no will to document these wishes?

ive been looking at her sideways ever since...to be brutally honest, SNIP-OF4S...i call bs, too...


So...what...she should have had him stuffed and mounted over the fireplace?

falloff Forgive me for laughing, but I see your point. Having his body cremated was a viable option considering if he was buried, some of his fanatical, macabre "fams" might have waited for an opportunity to dig up his grave to procure some memento. Now he can truly rest in peace.

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Reply #133 posted 10/08/16 6:13pm

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disch said:

Is it the norm to have a public memorial, though? Besides MJ, what are some other examples?



endiadj said:




rogifan said:


endiadj said: I understand but I don't think he would have wanted it. And like I said public celebrity memorials are the exception not the rule. I may be in the minority here but I don't think it's the responsibility of the estate or the family to provide closure for the fans. Each fan has to find that on their own, in their own way.

A public memorial is not for the deceased, it's for the fans, family, friends, ex's. It's a public laying to rest and thank you to that person, especially a public figure. A public goodbye to him for everyone to experience, whether you're there in person or watching on TV. I'm just unsettled by the absence of one for Prince because it's the norm for stars of his caliber. And, I guess, for me it's a personal thing. I've always felt Prince was under appreciated throughout his career from the media, critics and the general public. This was just another blow. sad





Here in Detroit we recently had two for beloved heroes in our community.
Ernie Harwell, the voice of the Detroit Tigers for decades had a public viewing at Comerica Park. More recently, Gordie Howe had a public viewing at Joe Louis Arena.
I agree, always underappreciated. The man was special and deserved better
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Reply #134 posted 10/08/16 10:50pm

sunmooonandsta
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Its a shame how people talk about Tyka. She is grieving the loss of her brother and some of yall are come off as so heartless. I understand her recent comments were confusing and left more questions than answers. Please we need to keep in mind that she has A LOT on her plate. She is the one the media AND fams focus on because she and Prince shared the same blood. She's damned of she looks happy because the media and fams assume she doesn't care that her brother is dead. And she's damned if she looks sad cause then folks would talk about how bad she looks and people would probably think she is back on drugs.

I think we all need to give her a break. I'm certain we will hear from her again and she MIGHT even answer SOME of the questions we have. But in her own time. And we can't expect her to please all of us cause that is impossible. I believe she is very protective as her brother as he was of her so we need to keep in mind that whatever she may allow us to know about Prince is a blessing and we need to be a little more appreciative of whatever she does for us, because ultimately she doesnt have to do a damn thing.

On another note, as I have mentioned and as Tyka has mentioned before Prince has always been protective of her so can you imagine how pissed he would be at some of yall who are talkin shit about his sister. Yall know how he loved throwin shade on Twitter. I can only imagine his tweets if he was still alive and knew about people talkin shit about his little sister
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Reply #135 posted 10/09/16 5:15am

rogifan

Revolution said:

disch said:

Is it the norm to have a public memorial, though? Besides MJ, what are some other examples?



endiadj said:




rogifan said:


endiadj said: I understand but I don't think he would have wanted it. And like I said public celebrity memorials are the exception not the rule. I may be in the minority here but I don't think it's the responsibility of the estate or the family to provide closure for the fans. Each fan has to find that on their own, in their own way.

A public memorial is not for the deceased, it's for the fans, family, friends, ex's. It's a public laying to rest and thank you to that person, especially a public figure. A public goodbye to him for everyone to experience, whether you're there in person or watching on TV. I'm just unsettled by the absence of one for Prince because it's the norm for stars of his caliber. And, I guess, for me it's a personal thing. I've always felt Prince was under appreciated throughout his career from the media, critics and the general public. This was just another blow. sad





Here in Detroit we recently had two for beloved heroes in our community.
Ernie Harwell, the voice of the Detroit Tigers for decades had a public viewing at Comerica Park. More recently, Gordie Howe had a public viewing at Joe Louis Arena.
I agree, always underappreciated. The man was special and deserved better

People complain about this or that the family is doing because P was a "private person" but then they complain because there was public memorial for him. Does anybody think that's what he'd really want? And yes it is about him, not about us. IMO people need to stop expecting others to provide closure or acceptance for them. People need to find that on their own.
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Reply #136 posted 10/09/16 6:06am

Starrdust505

sunmooonandstars said:

Its a shame how people talk about Tyka. She is grieving the loss of her brother and some of yall are come off as so heartless. I understand her recent comments were confusing and left more questions than answers. Please we need to keep in mind that she has A LOT on her plate. She is the one the media AND fams focus on because she and Prince shared the same blood. She's damned of she looks happy because the media and fams assume she doesn't care that her brother is dead. And she's damned if she looks sad cause then folks would talk about how bad she looks and people would probably think she is back on drugs. I think we all need to give her a break. I'm certain we will hear from her again and she MIGHT even answer SOME of the questions we have. But in her own time. And we can't expect her to please all of us cause that is impossible. I believe she is very protective as her brother as he was of her so we need to keep in mind that whatever she may allow us to know about Prince is a blessing and we need to be a little more appreciative of whatever she does for us, because ultimately she doesnt have to do a damn thing. On another note, as I have mentioned and as Tyka has mentioned before Prince has always been protective of her so can you imagine how pissed he would be at some of yall who are talkin shit about his sister. Yall know how he loved throwin shade on Twitter. I can only imagine his tweets if he was still alive and knew about people talkin shit about his little sister

yeahthat I totally agree with you, until proven otherwise I think she needs all our support.

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Reply #137 posted 10/09/16 10:02am

babynoz

sunmooonandstars said:

Its a shame how people talk about Tyka. She is grieving the loss of her brother and some of yall are come off as so heartless. I understand her recent comments were confusing and left more questions than answers. Please we need to keep in mind that she has A LOT on her plate. She is the one the media AND fams focus on because she and Prince shared the same blood. She's damned of she looks happy because the media and fams assume she doesn't care that her brother is dead. And she's damned if she looks sad cause then folks would talk about how bad she looks and people would probably think she is back on drugs. I think we all need to give her a break. I'm certain we will hear from her again and she MIGHT even answer SOME of the questions we have. But in her own time. And we can't expect her to please all of us cause that is impossible. I believe she is very protective as her brother as he was of her so we need to keep in mind that whatever she may allow us to know about Prince is a blessing and we need to be a little more appreciative of whatever she does for us, because ultimately she doesnt have to do a damn thing. On another note, as I have mentioned and as Tyka has mentioned before Prince has always been protective of her so can you imagine how pissed he would be at some of yall who are talkin shit about his sister. Yall know how he loved throwin shade on Twitter. I can only imagine his tweets if he was still alive and knew about people talkin shit about his little sister


This is what I've been saying for almost six months now. I hope you have better luck getting the point across.

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Reply #138 posted 10/09/16 10:05am

babynoz

rogifan said:

Revolution said:
Here in Detroit we recently had two for beloved heroes in our community. Ernie Harwell, the voice of the Detroit Tigers for decades had a public viewing at Comerica Park. More recently, Gordie Howe had a public viewing at Joe Louis Arena. I agree, always underappreciated. The man was special and deserved better
People complain about this or that the family is doing because P was a "private person" but then they complain because there was public memorial for him. Does anybody think that's what he'd really want? And yes it is about him, not about us. IMO people need to stop expecting others to provide closure or acceptance for them. People need to find that on their own.



Amen.

It also bears repeating over and over until somebody gets it......most celebs do NOT have public memorials and their families are under no obligation whatsoever to do so.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #139 posted 10/10/16 2:24pm

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Because most celebs are not special. The special ones do.
MJ, Ali as two recent examples. When Aretha or Stevie pass, you dont think ppl will be upset if they dont have public viewings?
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Reply #140 posted 10/10/16 2:30pm

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Revolution said:

Because most celebs are not special. The special ones do. MJ, Ali as two recent examples. When Aretha or Stevie transition, you dont think ppl will be upset if they dont have public viewings?


No, I don't.

And you do realize that "transition" sounds like a sex change...right?

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Reply #141 posted 10/10/16 3:08pm

Purplestar88

Revolution said:

Because most celebs are not special. The special ones do. MJ, Ali as two recent examples. When Aretha or Stevie transition, you dont think ppl will be upset if they dont have public viewings?

I think it would have been nice to have a public memorial but at the same time Prince and any other beloved celebs don't need one to validate how love they are for the masses. People pay their respects to Prince in their own ways by complementing his work/life and people left all kinds things at PP. NASA did a tribute for him. What more could any one want?

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Reply #142 posted 10/10/16 3:15pm

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Oops
[Edited 10/10/16 15:16pm]
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Reply #143 posted 10/10/16 3:17pm

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Genesia said:



Revolution said:


Because most celebs are not special. The special ones do. MJ, Ali as two recent examples. When Aretha or Stevie transition, you dont think ppl will be upset if they dont have public viewings?


No, I don't.

And you do realize that "transition" sounds like a sex change...right?



Lol. I didnt want to say die
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Reply #144 posted 10/10/16 4:05pm

rogifan

I noticed most of the PRNFamily tweets have been deleted. I hope it's not because people have been tweeting nasty things about Tyka or the rest of the rest of the family. People need to stop being so nasty.
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Reply #145 posted 10/10/16 4:50pm

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rogifan said:

I noticed most of the PRNFamily tweets have been deleted. I hope it's not because people have been tweeting nasty things about Tyka or the rest of the rest of the family. People need to stop being so nasty.

I'd noticed that myself. Maybe it was too hard to track things? Who knows but I hope it wasn't due to nastiness either.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #146 posted 10/10/16 5:00pm

morningsong

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Reply #147 posted 10/10/16 5:00pm

FlyOnTheWall

Revolution said:

Genesia said:


No, I don't.

And you do realize that "transition" sounds like a sex change...right?

Lol. I didnt want to say die

"Transition" is a commonly used euphemism for death. Transgender terminology seems to be constantly evolving, but one of the more common terms they use (or used to use) is gender "reassignment."

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Reply #148 posted 10/13/16 3:27pm

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While "his body was still warm"? WTF are you talking about? He was creamated 30 hours or so after he was found dead (and at that point he had already reportedly been dead 6 hours) -- and AFTER a four-hour autopsy had been completed! His body was FAR from warm and there is literally nothing shady about having him cremated at that point.

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Did you consider that perhaps she didn't want his body lingering around because she wanted to avoid the possibilty of post-mortem photos sneaking out somehow (like MJ's did) to eager "fams"? I would have done the same as her.

RJOrion said:

Tyka apperently had her brother cremated while his body was still warm... supposedly upon his wishes, but theres no will to document these wishes? ive been looking at her sideways ever since...to be brutally honest, she isnt the most trustworthy person on earth...her chemical and criminal past speak for itself...i call bs, too...

LOL! It's just a figure of speech. Basically, he/she meant before the public "could even digest or fathom the fact that Prince was gone" (in other words, so soon). Here's what I think (and this is just MY opinion): Tyka, as well as Micheal Jackson and Whitney's family should have had a private viewing for the family as well as a public viewing (even if it's just for celebs and the press only). And have some pics taken of celebs filing past the open casket. Then, after the viewing the family can go ahead with the burial/cremation or whatever. I say this because it would dispel all those damn "is he/she really dead" conspiracy rumors, I am so sick of that crazy azz sh*t, I don't know what to do. I couldn't understand the public's outrage at Whitney's supposedly "leaked" casket pics. I thought she was absolutley "beautiful". I'm not glorifying death, but let's face it. It's gonna happen to us all. James Brown, Sam Cooke, Florence Ballard (of the Supremes) and numerous others had open casket viewings with pics of them lying in state, and people were okay with it. But yeah...it would help bring closure to these celebrities who pass so sudden an unexpectedly if the families handle things that way.

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Reply #149 posted 10/19/16 11:20am

Ottensen

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StopIt said:



rogifan said:


www.facebook.com/tyka.nel...4585882005
Hi, Please understand that I'm Doing The VERY Best I Can! Don't 4 Get I've Lost from this Earth someone I've been with All My Life...He Loves U and I Will Make Sure My WONDERFUL Brother/Friend/Man/Musician/Entertainer and Son of GOD! WILL Remain Accessible 2 the Ones Who Loved him 2 Prince Lives... Eternally ~Tyka

I sometimes need to remind myself that while I lost an artist I loved dearly Tyka lost a brother. Even if they didn't always have the best relationship they were FAMILY and they loved each other. The fans are important but it's not just about the fans. I'm sure she is doing the best she can right now. πŸ’œ


With all due respect, must call b.s.



Given the utter Slew of legal, administrative, business folks, and their underlings retained by her and others to be paid in specified billable minutes for what they're claiming to be doing on Prince's dime on her behalf and on behalf of the other beneficiaries, there should be/is very minimal being asked of her, frankly.



However, such clients who have never functioned consistently in this world with any structured work ethic, nor ever even been self-sufficient in meeting their own most basic, real world, daily demands financially as others must, anything would be "overwhelming."



Those who loved him do know this is not "the very best" folks can do on any level, and hasn't been from the beginning. If anything, true grief would push you to function harder.



















Agreed. Not to mention she could quell all the rumors surrounding her brother's death by giving an interview. No one, including her, has spoken publicly regarding the very odd circumstances surrounding Prince's untimely and suspicious death.[/:

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF US IS OWED THAT. People kill me trying to usurp imaginary rights they think they have to be all up in the circumstances of his death like he was public property. To my knowledge he was neither kin nor personal friend to no one posting here: the people who were actually PART of his life, in REAL time, don't owe us a cotton picking thing.
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