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Reply #90 posted 09/30/16 6:55pm

IstenSzek

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rogifan said:

IstenSzek said:

just reserve a large wall or corridor inside paisley park for notes and little items from fans
that they can leave after the tour. done.

According to the local paper they're creating an online wall where people will be able to post tributes. This online wall will include stuff that was left at PP.


that's a nice idea too. plus, it can be seen by everyone, everywhere that way, which is nice smile

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Reply #91 posted 09/30/16 7:10pm

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Revolution said:

laurarichardson said:



Revolution said:


babynoz said:




All you have to do is read the hateful, insensitive posts above yours to give you an idea of the venom Tyka has endured since she lost her brother.



You have buried your head in the sand. Some of us want the truth. We have invested time, money heart and soul into Prince's music. It's the least they can provide, no matter how ugly the truth is.

If you want to the truth spend your time and money go to Minneapolis and volunteer to help.





And that will get me answers??? Like derrick31 said, tyka has the ability to squash all of this by making a statement, but she refuses, leading to speculation about how extensive his drug use really was. Tyka will not be getting a single dollar from me. Prince desrved better (i think)

Firstly, I can't even begin to wonder how true fans could be giving Prince's sister shit about anything now, or ever.
There is so much wrong with your comment it amazes me you really aren't able to comprehend that. You don't need or deserve the answers to your questions. It's none of your business and it's certainly not Tyka's responsibility to feed you all the ugly, intensely private and personal information your sick self seems to crave about someone you never knew, and vice versa. What purpose would it serve you other than to perjsps feed an insatiable hunger for morbid gossip? Don't make it sound like it's such a reasonably simple thing for Tyka to do. It ain't like that. Personally I hope she never comes out and says the things you want her to say. Prince deserves better than to have the people closest to him betray him. Thats what he deserves. And Tyka deserves to be left alone. It's none of your business. How many times does it need to be said? It's none of your business.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #92 posted 09/30/16 7:18pm

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Poor woman. She has my utmost respect for what's been thrown at her these last few months. Let's face it, Tyka will never do anything right in some people's opinion. Love and strength to you Tyka, I think you're doing a great job in the face of adversity!
There's always a rainbow 🌈 , at the end of every rain ☔️
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Reply #93 posted 09/30/16 7:33pm

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RJOrion said:

Tyka apperently had her brother cremated while his body was still warm... supposedly upon his wishes, but theres no will to document these wishes?

ive been looking at her sideways ever since...to be brutally honest, SNIP-OF4S...i call bs, too...

It was reported in the media at the time it was due to JW tradition they have to be cremated within so many hours, I'm not sure if that is true. David Bowie was cremated within hours of his death as he didn't want any fuss, it seems to be the best way to do it privately. Stop putting the blame for everything onto the family. It's their right to do things as they want!
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Reply #94 posted 09/30/16 8:21pm

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1Sasha said:

I understand that people grieve in different ways. Shame on Prince for not leaving the documents necessary to avoid this quagmire. "Regular" people don't know how to play at his level. He even didn't know how to properly handle his business affairs.

I believe in another thread on the org is the statement that she has retained new legal counsel, dismissing her other attorneys. There is fighting amongst the siblings with Bremer Trust. By the way, do you know where your sibling(s) bank? She seemed to know, rather quickly, in April whom to ask to oversee the Estate. Maybe her monthly allotment came from Bremer. I cannot shake the feeling that they would all be happy to have money now and to let the rest of the estate go. JMO

I can't shake the feeling that Prince DID leave an estate plan/will. I'll never believe otherwise. Somebody knows something, including certain family members. I'm convinced.

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Reply #95 posted 09/30/16 8:26pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

1Sasha said:

I understand that people grieve in different ways. Shame on Prince for not leaving the documents necessary to avoid this quagmire. "Regular" people don't know how to play at his level. He even didn't know how to properly handle his business affairs.

I believe in another thread on the org is the statement that she has retained new legal counsel, dismissing her other attorneys. There is fighting amongst the siblings with Bremer Trust. By the way, do you know where your sibling(s) bank? She seemed to know, rather quickly, in April whom to ask to oversee the Estate. Maybe her monthly allotment came from Bremer. I cannot shake the feeling that they would all be happy to have money now and to let the rest of the estate go. JMO

I can't shake the feeling that Prince DID leave an estate plan/will. I'll never believe otherwise. Somebody knows something, including certain family members. I'm convinced.

The blind leading the blind.

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Reply #96 posted 09/30/16 8:26pm

FlyOnTheWall

EmmaMcG said:

That's all well and good, I'm not in any hurry for them to open the vault and release some previously unreleased music. I just hope that when it does happen, they don't hold back on releasing any songs that may feature themes which contradict his JW beliefs, which I think may happen. I'd doubt they'll be releasing sexually explicit material, regardless of how good the song may be. I still believe that the best way of doing it is to create a website and put every single unreleased song they have on it for download and charge 50 cent - 1 dollar/euro per song. They could still release collectors edition versions of the big albums with unreleased songs bundled in for those of us who prefer physical stuff.

Since they're having tribute parties for Prince with liquor, just five months after his passing, I'd bet money that they won't withhold unreleased music because of explicit lyrics.

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Reply #97 posted 09/30/16 8:31pm

FlyOnTheWall

tish9311 said:

Genesia said:


It depends how you do it. Frankly, there's really nothing to bitch about with respect to this because no one is making you pay that amount. There are lower-priced tickets - or you could just stay home.

And, yes - what did Prince charge for a meet and greet?

This is my opinion-it makes whomever{let's not assume this is just Tyka alone} seem to play into the handos the people talking about the family on wanting Prince's money. It is my opinion.

For the record, I will be at the party-not doing the meet and greet with the family.

I thought Bremer, McMillan and Koppleman were in control of the estate?

I don't think these parties have anything to do with the estate, other than the involvement of his siblings. PRNFamily is a new entity that lists Omar Baker as its principal.

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Reply #98 posted 09/30/16 8:43pm

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disbelief Good luck Tyka, you're doing the best u can, that's all anyone can do. I dread 2 think of the massive amount of work & responsibilities that have fallen into your lap. All the changes & challenges whilst you are grieving. butterfly

That's not all that has fallen into Tyka's lap, NinaB.

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Reply #99 posted 09/30/16 9:00pm

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rogifan said:

www.facebook.com/tyka.nel...4585882005
Hi, Please understand that I'm Doing The VERY Best I Can! Don't 4 Get I've Lost from this Earth someone I've been with All My Life...He Loves U and I Will Make Sure My WONDERFUL Brother/Friend/Man/Musician/Entertainer and Son of GOD! WILL Remain Accessible 2 the Ones Who Loved him 2 Prince Lives... Eternally ~Tyka
I sometimes need to remind myself that while I lost an artist I loved dearly Tyka lost a brother. Even if they didn't always have the best relationship they were FAMILY and they loved each other. The fans are important but it's not just about the fans. I'm sure she is doing the best she can right now. 💜

I can't even begin to imagine all that Tyka is dealing with; however, this is only the beginning. I wish her well, but this all comes with the territory, that of being an heiress to a rock and roll god. One piece of advice for Tyka: TAKE A PAGE OUT OF THE PRINCE PLAYBOOK: LIMIT INTERVIEWS. USE THE MEDIA SPARINGLY AND STRATEGICALLY. OTHERWISE, THEY WILL CHEW YOU UP AND SPIT YOU OUT.

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Reply #100 posted 09/30/16 9:10pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:



NinaB said:


disbelief Good luck Tyka, you're doing the best u can, that's all anyone can do. I dread 2 think of the massive amount of work & responsibilities that have fallen into your lap. All the changes & challenges whilst you are grieving. butterfly

That's not all that has fallen into Tyka's lap, NinaB.


You mean money right? All the tea in China can't replace a loved one. Believe I know. I ain't gonna lie, I have my worries over so many parties being involved - Bremer, Graceland, 6 sibs, McM & Kopp. Dave Hampton saying the sibs communicate thru lawyers concerns me (IF that's accurate). BUT I will say Tyka has done nothing so far that disturbs me. I pray she has good peep around & good counsel to help. My spirit took 2 her frm many yrs ago. I also feel her boys & Alfred & Omarr are good peep too. I can't speak on any of the other parties involved. I have said b4 I wish someone would say something 2 shut down the slanderous shite I've seen about P. But I do get its not up 2 me & most likely they are honoring P's long time example regarding such things.
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"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #101 posted 09/30/16 9:35pm

derrick31

purplethunder3121 said:



Revolution said:


babynoz said:




And you have your head buried up your ass if you think for one minute that anybody owes you anything at all simply because you patronized Prince's art? You have the items that you paid for and the memories of his exquisite spirit to cherish.

Prince already left you people far more than you deserve or are entitled to but many of his so called fams are too stupid, blind and entitled to see it. disbelief

You should be ashamed of yourselves.



Girl, thats a different thread. This isnt what i got from Prince, this is about what i'm NOT getting from Tyka.

Tyka doesn't owe you anything either.



She owes it to her brother's legacy and his legions of fans who can keep his legacy alive.
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Reply #102 posted 09/30/16 9:39pm

derrick31

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Tyka apperently had her brother cremated while his body was still warm... supposedly upon his wishes, but theres no will to document these wishes?

ive been looking at her sideways ever since...to be brutally honest, SNIP-OF4S...i call bs, too...


Even more reason she is suspect to me as well. I'm not sure what all the love for Tyka is about anyways. Anyone ever see the two of them together? Were they even close?
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Reply #103 posted 09/30/16 9:44pm

FlyOnTheWall

NinaB said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That's not all that has fallen into Tyka's lap, NinaB.

You mean money right? All the tea in China can't replace a loved one. Believe I know. I ain't gonna lie, I have my worries over so many parties being involved - Bremer, Graceland, 6 sibs, McM & Kopp. Dave Hampton saying the sibs communicate thru lawyers concerns me (IF that's accurate). BUT I will say Tyka has done nothing so far that disturbs me. I pray she has good peep around & good counsel to help. My spirit took 2 her frm many yrs ago. I also feel her boys & Alfred & Omarr are good peep too. I can't speak on any of the other parties involved. I have said b4 I wish someone would say something 2 shut down the slanderous shite I've seen about P. But I do get its not up 2 me & most likely they are honoring P's long time example regarding such things. [Edited 9/30/16 21:15pm]

Yes, I do mean money. But I don't mean that the money somehow replaces Prince. It would be insensitive for me to suggest any such thing. I'm just saying that along with "the massive amount of work & responsibilities that have fallen into [Tyka's] lap" is an almost incalculable fortune. As Luke 12:48 declares, and I'm paraphrasing, "To whom much is given, much is required." I've read that Tyka is a devout Christian, so I think she understands this.

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Reply #104 posted 10/01/16 1:15am

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FlyOnTheWall said:



EmmaMcG said:


That's all well and good, I'm not in any hurry for them to open the vault and release some previously unreleased music. I just hope that when it does happen, they don't hold back on releasing any songs that may feature themes which contradict his JW beliefs, which I think may happen. I'd doubt they'll be releasing sexually explicit material, regardless of how good the song may be. I still believe that the best way of doing it is to create a website and put every single unreleased song they have on it for download and charge 50 cent - 1 dollar/euro per song. They could still release collectors edition versions of the big albums with unreleased songs bundled in for those of us who prefer physical stuff.

Since they're having tribute parties for Prince with liquor, just five months after his passing, I'd bet money that they won't withhold unreleased music because of explicit lyrics.


As far as I know when P performed at venues other than PP there was no ban on alcohol. Your argument might hold water if the official tours were offering alcohol, but they're not.
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Reply #105 posted 10/01/16 1:17am

rogifan

derrick31 said:

RJOrion said:

Tyka apperently had her brother cremated while his body was still warm... supposedly upon his wishes, but theres no will to document these wishes?

ive been looking at her sideways ever since...to be brutally honest, SNIP-OF4S...i call bs, too...


Even more reason she is suspect to me as well. I'm not sure what all the love for Tyka is about anyways. Anyone ever see the two of them together? Were they even close?

Except his body wasn't "still warm" when he was cremated. Why all the hate for her? What did she ever do to anyone here?
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Reply #106 posted 10/01/16 2:57am

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26ten said:

Man - if Prince were alive I bet he'd be pissed at all the people giving his family a hard time. I understand that everyone just is looking out for what they think is justice for Prince and they need to realize that Tyka might not have all the answers yet herself. This is likely a hugely complicated situation and we shouldn't speculate at all on it and judge her for our perceived inactivity or suspicion.


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The dude was private enough that we'd probably know even LESS if he was in charge of *his own* funeral. On top of that people on here thinking they are owed something BY PEOPLE THEY HAVE NEVER MET IN REGARD TO A PERSON THEY DID NOT KNOW PRIVATELY need to take a step back and get their delusion goggles off.


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I mean damn - if I was famous and then died and some asshole who didn't know me started giving my family a harder time than they were already enduring I swear to god I'd come back from the dead to go back hand them in the face and then I'd majestically evaporate back into the ether.




Edit: And even then I bet my said 'fans' would complain that while resurrected I didn't give them an autograph.

[Edited 9/30/16 10:34am]


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Reply #107 posted 10/01/16 4:22am

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rogifan said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Since they're having tribute parties for Prince with liquor, just five months after his passing, I'd bet money that they won't withhold unreleased music because of explicit lyrics.

As far as I know when P performed at venues other than PP there was no ban on alcohol. Your argument might hold water if the official tours were offering alcohol, but they're not.

Someone made this same point earlier, rogifan. As I said then, those performances at other venues were not sponsored by Prince or his representatives. And speaking of PP, as several have suggested on other threads, it would seem that Paisley Park would have been the obvious choice for the PRNFamily tribute parties. After all, PP will be officially open for tours by that time ... and we know that having the parties at PP would have meant far more to fams. So, the point some have made, including myself, is that his family seemingly chose to have the Prince tribute parties at that venue, which has less seating capacity than PP, because they serve liquor. But that aside, the Muse Event Center looks to be very nice. I hope everyone has a wonderful time. Lastly, and to return to my original point in this regard, I reason (and pray!) that, since Prince's JW conversion didn't factor into this venue choice, it is not likely to keep the estate from releasing his never-before-heard explicit music in The Vault.


http://musemn.com/event-spaces/


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Reply #108 posted 10/01/16 12:22pm

tish9311

FlyOnTheWall said:

tish9311 said:

This is my opinion-it makes whomever{let's not assume this is just Tyka alone} seem to play into the handos the people talking about the family on wanting Prince's money. It is my opinion.

For the record, I will be at the party-not doing the meet and greet with the family.

I thought Bremer, McMillan and Koppleman were in control of the estate?

I don't think these parties have anything to do with the estate, other than the involvement of his siblings. PRNFamily is a new entity that lists Omar Baker as its principal.

Thanks for the investigative work. I didn't know if this was really a family situation or not. That is why I took Tyka off total blast and shared my side eye with everybody. My opinon hasn't changed and I will be in the 3121 section.

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Reply #109 posted 10/01/16 1:12pm

FlyOnTheWall

tish9311 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I don't think these parties have anything to do with the estate, other than the involvement of his siblings. PRNFamily is a new entity that lists Omar Baker as its principal.

Thanks for the investigative work. I didn't know if this was really a family situation or not. That is why I took Tyka off total blast and shared my side eye with everybody. My opinon hasn't changed and I will be in the 3121 section.

Actually, this information was posted on another thread here on The Org.


http://prince.org/msg/7/432573

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PRNFamily.com, .net, and .org were just purchased a month ago today (20.Aug.2016), so you could almost surmise it's going to be a site coming up. They also list the contact as Omar Baker. The address for the person who registered is 115 King Creek Road (this is public information, by the way). If you look at an article by TheCurrent.org when they listed Prince's properties, it lists that address as where Mattie & Hayward lived: http://blog.thecurrent.or...-property/ One could think that Omar lives there now.

PS I once noted that Prince owned a house on Dakota Avenue in Chanhassen ( http://prince.org/msg/7/423014 ), very close to Paisley Park. That same house is listed in that article.

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Reply #110 posted 10/01/16 10:59pm

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Prince loved Tyka very much. People keep forgetting they are blood siblings.

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Reply #111 posted 10/02/16 12:27am

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rogifan said:


www.facebook.com/tyka.nel...4585882005
Hi, Please understand that I'm Doing The VERY Best I Can! Don't 4 Get I've Lost from this Earth someone I've been with All My Life...He Loves U and I Will Make Sure My WONDERFUL Brother/Friend/Man/Musician/Entertainer and Son of GOD! WILL Remain Accessible 2 the Ones Who Loved him 2 Prince Lives... Eternally ~Tyka

I sometimes need to remind myself that while I lost an artist I loved dearly Tyka lost a brother. Even if they didn't always have the best relationship they were FAMILY and they loved each other. The fans are important but it's not just about the fans. I'm sure she is doing the best she can right now. 💜


With all due respect, must call b.s.



Given the utter Slew of legal, administrative, business folks, and their underlings retained by her and others to be paid in specified billable minutes for what they're claiming to be doing on Prince's dime on her behalf and on behalf of the other beneficiaries, there should be/is very minimal being asked of her, frankly.



However, such clients who have never functioned consistently in this world with any structured work ethic, nor ever even been self-sufficient in meeting their own most basic, real world, daily demands financially as others must, anything would be "overwhelming."



Those who loved him do know this is not "the very best" folks can do on any level, and hasn't been from the beginning. If anything, true grief would push you to function harder.

















Totally Agree!
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Reply #112 posted 10/02/16 9:56am

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Tyka and the other relatives never asked for this job, and never proclaimed publicly that they are the most prepared people in the world to handle his estate. They were thrust into this because, for whatever reason, Prince didn't make any arrangements for something different to happen, and so it falls to the law to determine who's the beneficiaries.

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If you have a problem with his family's involvement, then it's really Prince you should be blaming.

SheLovesMeNot said:

StopIt said:

With all due respect, must call b.s.

Given the utter Slew of legal, administrative, business folks, and their underlings retained by her and others to be paid in specified billable minutes for what they're claiming to be doing on Prince's dime on her behalf and on behalf of the other beneficiaries, there should be/is very minimal being asked of her, frankly.

However, such clients who have never functioned consistently in this world with any structured work ethic, nor ever even been self-sufficient in meeting their own most basic, real world, daily demands financially as others must, anything would be "overwhelming."

Those who loved him do know this is not "the very best" folks can do on any level, and hasn't been from the beginning. If anything, true grief would push you to function harder.


Totally Agree!

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Reply #113 posted 10/02/16 12:09pm

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SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

Prince loved Tyka very much. People keep forgetting they are blood siblings.

Blood doesn't mean much.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #114 posted 10/02/16 1:11pm

endiadj

purplethunder3121 said:

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

Prince loved Tyka very much. People keep forgetting they are blood siblings.

Blood doesn't mean much.

I know firsthand, it doesn't mean ish to some.

I'm still reeling over no public memorial for this megastar. Can't get my head around it. sad

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Reply #115 posted 10/02/16 9:13pm

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rogifan said:

From the medical examiner's report we know what caused the death. Setting aside conspiracy theories (I think they're silly and just harm his legacy) do we need to know more? We certainly don't have the right to know more and honestly I don't want to. None of that is going to bring him back. If people need to know all the intimate details of his last days to find "closure" then maybe they need to seek help.

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Reply #116 posted 10/02/16 11:51pm

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sonshine said:

rogifan said:
From the medical examiner's report we know what caused the death. Setting aside conspiracy theories (I think they're silly and just harm his legacy) do we need to know more? We certainly don't have the right to know more and honestly I don't want to. None of that is going to bring him back. If people need to know all the intimate details of his last days to find "closure" then maybe they need to seek help.
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Reply #117 posted 10/03/16 12:06am

rogifan

endiadj said:



purplethunder3121 said:




SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:


Prince loved Tyka very much. People keep forgetting they are blood siblings.



Blood doesn't mean much.



I know firsthand, it doesn't mean ish to some.



I'm still reeling over no public memorial for this megastar. Can't get my head around it. sad

[Edited 10/2/16 13:19pm]


This may sound harsh but at this point people need to get over the no public memorial. A public memorial for a celebrity is the exception not the rule. Most celebrities don't have them.
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Reply #118 posted 10/03/16 4:48am

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rogifan said:

endiadj said:

I know firsthand, it doesn't mean ish to some.

I'm still reeling over no public memorial for this megastar. Can't get my head around it. sad

[Edited 10/2/16 13:19pm]

This may sound harsh but at this point people need to get over the no public memorial. A public memorial for a celebrity is the exception not the rule. Most celebrities don't have them.

Personally, I've never cared for big public memorials. They seem so unecessarily gauche and gaudy. Like someone has something to prove. They've already had 3 important services: 1. Private for family, 2. At his place of worship, 3. Private for freinds. There are publce tributes for fans, but hinestly dragging this out seems to prolong the healing process. I'm doing better by simply listening to live performances, music, etc and immersing myslf in a purple bubble of denial.

Frankly, I don't think P would want a bunch of carrying on over him.

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Reply #119 posted 10/03/16 5:36am

endiadj

rogifan said:

endiadj said:

I know firsthand, it doesn't mean ish to some.

I'm still reeling over no public memorial for this megastar. Can't get my head around it. sad

[Edited 10/2/16 13:19pm]

This may sound harsh but at this point people need to get over the no public memorial. A public memorial for a celebrity is the exception not the rule. Most celebrities don't have them.

Of course I'll get over it, cause I have to, but it doesn't mean it just seems wrong. Ex-wives wouldn't have needed to put on their own to mourn him. Maybe it would've helped people/fans heal faster, better. It's just seems incomplete, imo. He deserved a public memorial. He should've had one.

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