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Soundboard: FBG/Anony - The Bird - First Ave '83

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Recorded from the soundboard. This Bird has been set free... Reminder, as per org rules, don't ask in this thread where you can get it.

October 4th, 1983 • First Avenue, Minneapolis

After a well-documented shake-up in the band, a new Time lineup premiered live at First Avenue in Minneapolis. New to the fold were Paul Peterson and Mark Cardenas who replaced Jimmy Jam and Monte Moir on keyboards. Bass duties were now being handled by Rocky Harris who took over for the departed Terry Lewis.

Jerome Benton starts the show by introducing the “new” Time with the help of several women in bikinis. Later, acting as preacher, Morris asks the “congregation” for donations and some of the guys in the band walk into the audience gathering contributions in their hats. The Time performed an 8-song set that included two previously unknown tracks - Jungle Love and The Bird. On this night, a professional mobile recording studio was hired to capture the show’s audio. This is where the live rendition of The Bird that ended up on the Ice Cream Castle LP originates from.

The audience that night was very receptive, but it has been reported that there was tension on stage and that Morris Day was obviously losing interest in the band. At the end of the show he immediately left the stage, bypassed the dressing room, and exited the stage door to his car. The band members remained behind for a what was probably a somewhat awkward celebration. Morris Day had become very discontented with Prince's tight control of The Time and the firing of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Though The Time had achieved relative commercial success thus far, Morris Day felt that he was seeing very little financial compensation for his work.

A simple thank you seems not enough for our Anonymous friend as another historic soundboard recording is made free - for the love of the music. Many thanks to Free Boot Generation for the stellar digital mastering. There was much to be done in order to make this release sound as good as it does and the folks at FBG came through once again. And a very special thank you to the Prince fan community who obtained ANONY/FBG/4DF’s Prince And The Revolution - From The Soundboard: 1984 Birthday Show. The positive reception and incredibly quick way word was spread about that release made sure it remained FREE.

Morris Day: Vocals
Jerome Benton: Hype-Man
Jesse Johnson: Guitar
Rocky Harris: Bass
Jellybean Johnson: Drums
St. Paul Peterson: Keyboards
Mark Cardenas: Keyboards

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Reply #1 posted 11/06/11 8:08am

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Very cool release, well "timed" too. cool

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Reply #2 posted 11/06/11 11:09am

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cool

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Reply #3 posted 11/06/11 11:27am

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Very, VERY cool! cool

I knew SOMEONE had to have the soundboard to this BECAUSE of the fact that some of the audio was used for the album. I'm just glad that things like this are finally starting to leak out and see the light of day.

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Reply #4 posted 11/06/11 2:35pm

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drool

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Reply #5 posted 11/06/11 2:49pm

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Put yo' momma in the hat!! "If you don't want her, put the bitch in the hat! If she'll fit, I take her!"

LMAO!!!!

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Reply #6 posted 11/07/11 2:39pm

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Soo... even a crappy version of this hasn't exisited before?

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Reply #7 posted 11/07/11 5:24pm

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JudasLChrist said:

Soo... even a crappy version of this hasn't exisited before?

Not sure. I do know I've heard (and have) the Bird track - in soundboard quality - where Morris says, "Hold on, hold on! Why y'all beatin' on shit?!" Not sure why the rest of the show never saw the light of day until now. I'm just glad it did!!!

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

JudasLChrist said:

Soo... even a crappy version of this hasn't exisited before?

Not sure. I do know I've heard (and have) the Bird track - in soundboard quality - where Morris says, "Hold on, hold on! Why y'all beatin' on shit?!" Not sure why the rest of the show never saw the light of day until now. I'm just glad it did!!!

Yeah, I'm not sure if another full version of this show is circulating openly.

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squirrelgrease said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Not sure. I do know I've heard (and have) the Bird track - in soundboard quality - where Morris says, "Hold on, hold on! Why y'all beatin' on shit?!" Not sure why the rest of the show never saw the light of day until now. I'm just glad it did!!!

Yeah, I'm not sure if another full version of this show is circulating openly.

Tah answers my question. I have that Bird recording, too. That's why I was asking. Mine may be soundbord, but it's fairly distorted.

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the last minute or so of the Bird seems to be a different (also excellent) quality? Is this from that other source?

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jaawwnn said:

the last minute or so of the Bird seems to be a different (also excellent) quality? Is this from that other source?

Yeah, it sounds really really good at the end there! All of a sudden the recording gets room-sound!

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Great job on the art work wink

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jaawwnn said:

the last minute or so of the Bird seems to be a different (also excellent) quality? Is this from that other source?

This release is all from the same source tape, but with that mobile recording studio on-site that night, I don't know if certain things were done on-the-fly, or what the deal was.

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mplsmike said:

Great job on the art work wink

Thanks.

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Reply #16 posted 11/08/11 10:01am

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squirrelgrease said:

mplsmike said:

Great job on the art work wink

Thanks.

Yeah, for real! That cover's spectacular!

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Reply #17 posted 11/08/11 10:56am

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This is a interesting show for several reason:

1. This show was actually a couple weeks after the imfamous First Ave show by Prince and The Revolution and like that show, this show was recorded (mobile). Some overdubs was done (after the show) on the "new songs" from that set to possibly appear on The Time's Ice Cream Castle album. The album version of "The Bird" did come from this show and the Purple Rain film version of "Jungle Love" came from this show as well. Only like 2 and a half minutes of the First Avenue recording appears on the movie but, it's longer than that and it's funky. This show was recorded weeks prior to the making of the film Purple Rain

2. The introduction of the new incarnation of The Time with new members St. Paul aka Paul Peterson, Mark Cardenas, Rocky Harris. Jimmy and Terry were fired by Jamie Starr (Prince) and Monte left the band soon after. A few of weeks after the First Avenue show, Rocky was fired as a member of The Time and was soon replaced. Rocky would go on to work with Jesse Johnson on some of Jesse's early solo albums along with Mark Cardenas.

3. This was just a great show by The Time despite the feelings of Jesse, Jellybean, and especially Morris at the time of this show.

The cover and booklet is great and with some EQ (turn a channel up a bit), this recording sound even better. Chill Sauce!

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Reply #18 posted 11/08/11 1:03pm

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omg prince completley stole that line from morris during collection time "u took did u give" that's on the family's album during mutiny

wow!

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #19 posted 11/08/11 4:24pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

omg prince completley stole that line from morris during collection time "u took did u give" that's on the family's album during mutiny

wow!

Yeah, that was the first thing I thought of too, but maybe they were both saying it behind the scenes as jokes way back then, but Morris was the first to spit it on the microphone. Who knows. I just know I laughed my ass off when I heard him say that shit! lol

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Reply #21 posted 11/09/11 1:56pm

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The animated gif reminds me a little of that horror film from the 70s The Car. lol

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I listened to the whole show for the first time today. Nice to hear the Purple Rain version of "Jungle Love" in its entirety finally. I always liked that one more than the studio version. And where did that Jesse guitar solo on "The Bird" come from??? Very cool.

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sextonseven said:

The animated gif reminds me a little of that horror film from the 70s The Car. lol

lol It does, now that you mention it.

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sextonseven said:

I listened to the whole show for the first time today. Nice to hear the Purple Rain version of "Jungle Love" in its entirety finally. I always liked that one more than the studio version. And where did that Jesse guitar solo on "The Bird" come from??? Very cool.

I don't know, but it's tasty.

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Reply #25 posted 11/10/11 2:05am

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This is a bit AMAZING isn't it?

Can't believe a) this isn't even the classic line up, and b) they more or less split after this show.

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Reply #26 posted 11/10/11 8:26am

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sextonseven said:

I listened to the whole show for the first time today. Nice to hear the Purple Rain version of "Jungle Love" in its entirety finally. I always liked that one more than the studio version. And where did that Jesse guitar solo on "The Bird" come from??? Very cool.

I was lost for words when I first heard it, as far as "Jungle Love" from First Avenue. That version is great. I bet the full performance of "Jungle Love" (that was cut from the Purple Rain film) is the vault somewhere. I bet that footage exist along with many others. You can see more footage of it in the music video for that song. As for "The Bird", I like that performance as well. That solo Jesse did was cool.

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imo this release doesn't get the attention or praise it deserves, just because it isn't a Prince-bootleg.

But in terms of setlist and historical value, I think this almost matches the first Anony release.

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Reply #28 posted 11/10/11 12:11pm

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Could the vocals on Wild & Loose be any more out of tune? Must have been a problem with the monitors on that number.

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vc40 said:

imo this release doesn't get the attention or praise it deserves, just because it isn't a Prince-bootleg.

But in terms of setlist and historical value, I think this almost matches the first Anony release.

Just to clarify--this is the second Anony release? The first being the Prince 84 birthday show?

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