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Reply #210 posted 10/04/16 9:27am

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Dan Campion is correct "The management company should not have sold tickets before the city council had a chance to review their request." BUT I know that they've had knowledge of the tickets being sold every since AUG. No excuses for PP OR The City of Chanhassen


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Reply #211 posted 10/04/16 9:32am

rogifan

lotusflower0000 said:

ANOTHER EMAIL I JUST RECIEVED FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBER





Hi (My Name),




I appreciate your concerns and thoughts on this. I am also empathetic with the stress on you and your family over having already made travel plans. I am a Prince fan as well and want to ensure the museum is something we can all be proud of once it is officially opened.


I want to make sure a complete plan is in place to ensure our residents are fully considered/protected before we open the flood gates. The management company should not have sold tickets before the city council had a chance to review their request.


We will see what we can do to remedy this situation while we complete the plan with the applicant. Stay tuned to our city website for updates: http://www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us/


Thanks,
Dan





Ok I laughed out loud when I read this. The initial plan per the press release back in August was a city council meeting on the 3rd with doors opening on the 6th. So the city council thinks Graceland should only have started selling tickets two days before it was scheduled to open? Are they serious? Who approved the initial timeline of city council approval only 3 days before opening? Why are these city council questions just coming up now? Did anyone on the city council or within the mayor's office council against selling tickets?
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Reply #212 posted 10/04/16 9:33am

XxAxX

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lotusflower0000 said:

ANOTHER EMAIL I JUST RECIEVED FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBER

Hi (My Name),

I appreciate your concerns and thoughts on this. I am also empathetic with the stress on you and your family over having already made travel plans. I am a Prince fan as well and want to ensure the museum is something we can all be proud of once it is officially opened.

I want to make sure a complete plan is in place to ensure our residents are fully considered/protected before we open the flood gates. The management company should not have sold tickets before the city council had a chance to review their request.

We will see what we can do to remedy this situation while we complete the plan with the applicant. Stay tuned to our city website for updates: http://www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us/

Thanks,
Dan



imo, from what we've seen the City Council gave the impression that approval would not be withheld.

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Reply #213 posted 10/04/16 9:40am

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rogifan said:

lotusflower0000 said:

ANOTHER EMAIL I JUST RECIEVED FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBER

Hi (My Name),

I appreciate your concerns and thoughts on this. I am also empathetic with the stress on you and your family over having already made travel plans. I am a Prince fan as well and want to ensure the museum is something we can all be proud of once it is officially opened.

I want to make sure a complete plan is in place to ensure our residents are fully considered/protected before we open the flood gates. The management company should not have sold tickets before the city council had a chance to review their request.

We will see what we can do to remedy this situation while we complete the plan with the applicant. Stay tuned to our city website for updates: http://www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us/

Thanks,
Dan

Ok I laughed out loud when I read this. The initial plan per the press release back in August was a city council meeting on the 3rd with doors opening on the 6th. So the city council thinks Graceland should only have started selling tickets two days before it was scheduled to open? Are they serious? Who approved the initial timeline of city council approval only 3 days before opening? Why are these city council questions just coming up now? Did anyone on the city council or within the mayor's office council against selling tickets?

Best question i've heard all year lol I'm so drained.

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Reply #214 posted 10/04/16 9:40am

MrNelson7

XxAxX said:

lotusflower0000 said:

ANOTHER EMAIL I JUST RECIEVED FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBER

Hi (My Name),

I appreciate your concerns and thoughts on this. I am also empathetic with the stress on you and your family over having already made travel plans. I am a Prince fan as well and want to ensure the museum is something we can all be proud of once it is officially opened.

I want to make sure a complete plan is in place to ensure our residents are fully considered/protected before we open the flood gates. The management company should not have sold tickets before the city council had a chance to review their request.

We will see what we can do to remedy this situation while we complete the plan with the applicant. Stay tuned to our city website for updates: http://www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us/

Thanks,
Dan



imo, from what we've seen the City Council gave the impression that approval would not be withheld.

Yep. Not only that, but they had a session on September 20th, and could have raised a lot of the questions then. I think the council have their noses bent out of joint, and are being irrational and unreasonable. Issue a temporary order. I suspect that is what will come out of their special session today. They have to be getting innundated with calls and emails.

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Reply #215 posted 10/04/16 9:45am

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XxAxX said:



lotusflower0000 said:


ANOTHER EMAIL I JUST RECIEVED FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBER





Hi (My Name),




I appreciate your concerns and thoughts on this. I am also empathetic with the stress on you and your family over having already made travel plans. I am a Prince fan as well and want to ensure the museum is something we can all be proud of once it is officially opened.


I want to make sure a complete plan is in place to ensure our residents are fully considered/protected before we open the flood gates. The management company should not have sold tickets before the city council had a chance to review their request.


We will see what we can do to remedy this situation while we complete the plan with the applicant. Stay tuned to our city website for updates: http://www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us/


Thanks,
Dan








imo, from what we've seen the City Council gave the impression that approval would not be withheld.


Exactly. I'm pretty sure it's the recent concerns by local residents that have forced the City Councils hand and thrown a spanner in the works.
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Reply #216 posted 10/04/16 9:50am

PurpleDiamonds
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clairew1975 said:

disch said:

Just got this email from town council member Dan Campion (in response to my email):



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"I appreciate your concerns and thoughts on this. I am also empathetic with your stress over having already made travel plans. I am a Prince fan as well and want to ensure the museum is something we can all be proud of once it is officially opened.

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I want to make sure a complete plan is in place to ensure our residents are fully considered/protected before we open the flood gates. The management company should not have sold tickets before the city council had a chance to review their request.

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We will see what we can do to remedy this situation while we complete the plan with the applicant. Stay tuned to our city website for updates: http://www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us/

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Thanks,
Dan"

[Edited 10/4/16 9:17am]



I have to concur with this. No tickets should have sold until it was approved. What a mess! disbelief

Agree, no tickets should have been sold w/o prior approval.

Wasn't their a prior P&Z meeting? did they approve the opening of PP?
The Planning and zoning board usually provides the City Council recommendations.
Either way the person hired for the estate should have been working closely with both P&Z and City Council to secure the votes needed to open PP on the target date.

Wonder what the Today show with Tyka will be about....should be interesting to watch especially if it was pre recorded.

If Prince was able to hold party's at PP then why can't the event still go on?
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Reply #217 posted 10/04/16 9:53am

MrNelson7

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

clairew1975 said:
I have to concur with this. No tickets should have sold until it was approved. What a mess! disbelief
Agree, no tickets should have been sold w/o prior approval. Wasn't their a prior P&Z meeting? did they approve the opening of PP? The Planning and zoning board usually provides the City Council recommendations. Either way the person hired for the estate should have been working closely with both P&Z and City Council to secure the votes needed to open PP on the target date. Wonder what the Today show with Tyka will be about....should be interesting to watch especially if it was pre recorded. If Prince was able to hold party's at PP then why can't the event still go on?

Should be interesting to watch the follow-up. I wonder what Al Roker will have to say about the CC mess? And it should also be interesting to see the fall-out for the city of Chanhassan if they don't correct it.

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Reply #218 posted 10/04/16 9:58am

PurpleDiamonds
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MrNelson7 said:



PurpleDiamonds1 said:


clairew1975 said:
I have to concur with this. No tickets should have sold until it was approved. What a mess! disbelief

Agree, no tickets should have been sold w/o prior approval. Wasn't their a prior P&Z meeting? did they approve the opening of PP? The Planning and zoning board usually provides the City Council recommendations. Either way the person hired for the estate should have been working closely with both P&Z and City Council to secure the votes needed to open PP on the target date. Wonder what the Today show with Tyka will be about....should be interesting to watch especially if it was pre recorded. If Prince was able to hold party's at PP then why can't the event still go on?

Should be interesting to watch the follow-up. I wonder what Al Roker will have to say about the CC mess? And it should also be interesting to see the fall-out for the city of Chanhassan if they don't correct it.


Hope they come up with a temporary solution for the ticket holders.
I doubt anyone in Princes family would have known how permits and the city work, that is why they hired an estate manager. If they were any good they would have known!
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Reply #219 posted 10/04/16 10:05am

MrNelson7

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

MrNelson7 said:

Should be interesting to watch the follow-up. I wonder what Al Roker will have to say about the CC mess? And it should also be interesting to see the fall-out for the city of Chanhassan if they don't correct it.

Hope they come up with a temporary solution for the ticket holders. I doubt anyone in Princes family would have known how permits and the city work, that is why they hired an estate manager. If they were any good they would have known!

Yep. I don't find any fault with the family (I'm sure they are sick over this), and I also don't find a whole lot of fault with the estate manager. Turning PP into a museum AND the opening date were not secret. The CC should have been more forthcoming with their concerns KNOWING the date it was slated to open. This seems like a "Gotcha" moment from the CC, and it's making them look bad.

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Reply #220 posted 10/04/16 10:07am

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The meeting today is just a planning commission meeting, NOT a city council meeting. On Sept. 20 the Planning commission gave their approval to the city council for the opening of PP.

In order to get this straightened out there MUST be an emergency meeting called for the city council, to fix this problem. ASAP! They can always give PP a temporary permit.

Free Poppy's, Bombsquad, 13, Nero, Mdiver, shanti0608, RDhull. If Glamslam can get a 2nd chance, they should be able to also. 2020=CHANGE
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Reply #221 posted 10/04/16 10:08am

rogifan

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

MrNelson7 said:



PurpleDiamonds1 said:


clairew1975 said:
I have to concur with this. No tickets should have sold until it was approved. What a mess! disbelief

Agree, no tickets should have been sold w/o prior approval. Wasn't their a prior P&Z meeting? did they approve the opening of PP? The Planning and zoning board usually provides the City Council recommendations. Either way the person hired for the estate should have been working closely with both P&Z and City Council to secure the votes needed to open PP on the target date. Wonder what the Today show with Tyka will be about....should be interesting to watch especially if it was pre recorded. If Prince was able to hold party's at PP then why can't the event still go on?

Should be interesting to watch the follow-up. I wonder what Al Roker will have to say about the CC mess? And it should also be interesting to see the fall-out for the city of Chanhassan if they don't correct it.


Hope they come up with a temporary solution for the ticket holders.
I doubt anyone in Princes family would have known how permits and the city work, that is why they hired an estate manager. If they were any good they would have known!

Thing is we don't know who dropped the ball. This doesn't make Bremer or Graceland look good at all. I have a really hard time believing they would be that incompetent. It seems more likely to me that they were given assurances they shouldn't have been given and thus they moved forward as if this was a done deal.
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Reply #222 posted 10/04/16 10:12am

Freeyourself

Just sent mine...better late than never...

Council Members and Mayor,
I am respectfully asking you to consider alternative options for allowing tours at Paisley Park starting Oct 6th. While it may not be feasible to approve the re-zoning as a museum by then, is there not any other option that would allow the tours to continue....temporary approval of permit, re-classification of the already scheduled tours as a "Celebration" as Prince has had done before, consolidating the tours to ease traffic/safety concerns until a permanent solution can be put in place?
I believe that the fans, including myself, that have already made non-refundable travel arrangements would be open to some compromise. I also believe that those of us whom are traveling from out of state/out of the country are going to come to Paisley Park regardless. Even if it's just to see the outside and take pictures. I believe, without a plan in place, this will cause more of a safety concern than the originally planned tours, which seemed to already address these concerns.
Looking forward to your response.
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Reply #223 posted 10/04/16 10:14am

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Sounds like the City council are emailing the same form letter to everyone. Sheesh. What a mess.

I bet it didn't take the city 120 days to take Prince's money.

[Edited 10/4/16 10:19am]

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Reply #224 posted 10/04/16 10:20am

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CherryMoon57 said:

Bankinherpocket said:

I don't see anything on the city website about a special meeting. The Planning Commission has a meeting scheduled tonight, but I'm not sure if that's new or a standing meeting...

The date is listed on the planning commission agenda document I have but on that version, the "Items" column for this meeting was left blank.

wave Hey Cherry! Yes, I think that's because it's not a public meeting...or at least the meeting isn't open to public comments.

U can be the side effect, I'd rather be the dope.
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Reply #225 posted 10/04/16 10:27am

clairew1975

PennyPurple said:

The meeting today is just a planning commission meeting, NOT a city council meeting. On Sept. 20 the Planning commission gave their approval to the city council for the opening of PP.



In order to get this straightened out there MUST be an emergency meeting called for the city council, to fix this problem. ASAP! They can always give PP a temporary permit.





The planning commission giving approval doesn't mean the City Council have given the Green light. I assume the safety concerns are down to the high volume of visitors (just my opinion) and perhaps the infrastructure isn't fully in place that meet council approval. I can't see how anyone expected PP to be fully up and running in a space of a few months. The Council won't just be looking at PP but how it affects the running of the City with such a high footfall of visitors.
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Reply #226 posted 10/04/16 10:31am

4anothertime

I live in town and also had tix for the first day. I was floored this morning when I found out that it was "tabled". There have been some reasonable solutions, temporary permits and what have you. I believe this is what will happen. No one has said this is a done deal. It is "tabled" afterall no dead. This museum will happen. I want the tour I paid for...not a refund! I will also say this....I have seen and heard those that believe this is too soon for a museum or any sort or tribute. I understand we all have our own pace for processing and mourning. However, those that believe that are not the voice of us all. Anyone feeling this is too soon is no obligated in any way to go or participate in any way. Nor should those folks feel their position is more valid or important than those of us who need to go and get through our own emotions. I appreciate their concern but worry about yourselves please...those of us ready should have the choice to do what we wish and get this museum and destination for that matter on its feet and operational. Let's not forget there is a huge tax bill coming in the next few months...Prince's estate is counting on this as well as a number of other revenue flows to keep Paisley Park and Prince's legacy alive. I believe all of us who loved him in life and mourn him in death have a responsibility to keep the legacy alive and well.

I guess heaven really is keeping score...the cosmos are right handed and I am sucker for that right hook.
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Reply #227 posted 10/04/16 10:41am

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Well I sent my letters, and I will Be staying in Chanhassen from October 11-15, I WILL SEE PAISLEY PARK, one way or another. razz razz razz razz razz razz PURPLE LIVES MATTER !!!!!!!

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Reply #228 posted 10/04/16 10:43am

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clairew1975 said:

PennyPurple said:

The meeting today is just a planning commission meeting, NOT a city council meeting. On Sept. 20 the Planning commission gave their approval to the city council for the opening of PP.

In order to get this straightened out there MUST be an emergency meeting called for the city council, to fix this problem. ASAP! They can always give PP a temporary permit.

The planning commission giving approval doesn't mean the City Council have given the Green light. I assume the safety concerns are down to the high volume of visitors (just my opinion) and perhaps the infrastructure isn't fully in place that meet council approval. I can't see how anyone expected PP to be fully up and running in a space of a few months. The Council won't just be looking at PP but how it affects the running of the City with such a high footfall of visitors.

Yes, I know.

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Reply #229 posted 10/04/16 10:46am

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There may be ways around this. For example, since it's still a public business, PP COULD do like Prince did for his large concerts and charter a bus from the bus station, or work a deal with LA Fitness again (although I think that connection was through Kirky J)

It's now in the hands of management. Which is cheaper, taking the hit on revenue loss and possible litigation, or unique solutions.
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Reply #230 posted 10/04/16 10:47am

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one2vibe said:

Well I sent my letters, and I will Be staying in Chanhassen from October 11-15, I WILL SEE PAISLEY PARK, one way or another. razz razz razz razz razz razz PURPLE LIVES MATTER !!!!!!!


I love your attitude. I hope it all works out for your trip. biggrin

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Reply #231 posted 10/04/16 10:49am

XxAxX

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one2vibe said:

Well I sent my letters, and I will Be staying in Chanhassen from October 11-15, I WILL SEE PAISLEY PARK, one way or another. razz razz razz razz razz razz PURPLE LIVES MATTER !!!!!!!



lol nice!

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Reply #232 posted 10/04/16 10:50am

donnyenglish

Freeyourself said:

Just sent mine...better late than never...

Council Members and Mayor,
I am respectfully asking you to consider alternative options for allowing tours at Paisley Park starting Oct 6th. While it may not be feasible to approve the re-zoning as a museum by then, is there not any other option that would allow the tours to continue....temporary approval of permit, re-classification of the already scheduled tours as a "Celebration" as Prince has had done before, consolidating the tours to ease traffic/safety concerns until a permanent solution can be put in place?
I believe that the fans, including myself, that have already made non-refundable travel arrangements would be open to some compromise. I also believe that those of us whom are traveling from out of state/out of the country are going to come to Paisley Park regardless. Even if it's just to see the outside and take pictures. I believe, without a plan in place, this will cause more of a safety concern than the originally planned tours, which seemed to already address these concerns.
Looking forward to your response.

Letters like these are good and I think will persuade them to do something to make this right.

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Reply #233 posted 10/04/16 10:55am

tclifton

donnyenglish said:

Freeyourself said:

Just sent mine...better late than never...

Council Members and Mayor,
I am respectfully asking you to consider alternative options for allowing tours at Paisley Park starting Oct 6th. While it may not be feasible to approve the re-zoning as a museum by then, is there not any other option that would allow the tours to continue....temporary approval of permit, re-classification of the already scheduled tours as a "Celebration" as Prince has had done before, consolidating the tours to ease traffic/safety concerns until a permanent solution can be put in place?
I believe that the fans, including myself, that have already made non-refundable travel arrangements would be open to some compromise. I also believe that those of us whom are traveling from out of state/out of the country are going to come to Paisley Park regardless. Even if it's just to see the outside and take pictures. I believe, without a plan in place, this will cause more of a safety concern than the originally planned tours, which seemed to already address these concerns.
Looking forward to your response.

Letters like these are good and I think will persuade them to do something to make this right.

Not if you can't vote in Chanhassen.

Why would they care what someone that isn't a constiuent thinks?

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Reply #234 posted 10/04/16 11:00am

disch

hopefully they'll care because this affects local business (people coming to PP may also visit local shops, eat in local restaurants, etc.). Plus, the PP museum would create jobs for local people (in fact, it already had -- and i imagine those jobs are now in limbo). So hopefully those things are also being weighed.

tclifton said:

donnyenglish said:

Letters like these are good and I think will persuade them to do something to make this right.

Not if you can't vote in Chanhassen.

Why would they care what someone that isn't a constiuent thinks?

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Reply #235 posted 10/04/16 11:07am

PurpleDiamonds
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tclifton said:



donnyenglish said:




Freeyourself said:


Just sent mine...better late than never...








Council Members and Mayor,


I am respectfully asking you to consider alternative options for allowing tours at Paisley Park starting Oct 6th. While it may not be feasible to approve the re-zoning as a museum by then, is there not any other option that would allow the tours to continue....temporary approval of permit, re-classification of the already scheduled tours as a "Celebration" as Prince has had done before, consolidating the tours to ease traffic/safety concerns until a permanent solution can be put in place?

I believe that the fans, including myself, that have already made non-refundable travel arrangements would be open to some compromise. I also believe that those of us whom are traveling from out of state/out of the country are going to come to Paisley Park regardless. Even if it's just to see the outside and take pictures. I believe, without a plan in place, this will cause more of a safety concern than the originally planned tours, which seemed to already address these concerns.

Looking forward to your response.








Letters like these are good and I think will persuade them to do something to make this right.





Not if you can't vote in Chanhassen.




Why would they care what someone that isn't a constiuent thinks?




True....you might have a few constituents right now in the councils ear and they don't want to lose votes at re-elect time but hopefully they look at the bigger picture, the entire city has a lot to gain by people visiting from out of state.
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Reply #236 posted 10/04/16 11:25am

clairew1975

PennyPurple said:



clairew1975 said:


PennyPurple said:

The meeting today is just a planning commission meeting, NOT a city council meeting. On Sept. 20 the Planning commission gave their approval to the city council for the opening of PP.



In order to get this straightened out there MUST be an emergency meeting called for the city council, to fix this problem. ASAP! They can always give PP a temporary permit.





The planning commission giving approval doesn't mean the City Council have given the Green light. I assume the safety concerns are down to the high volume of visitors (just my opinion) and perhaps the infrastructure isn't fully in place that meet council approval. I can't see how anyone expected PP to be fully up and running in a space of a few months. The Council won't just be looking at PP but how it affects the running of the City with such a high footfall of visitors.


Yes, I know.



I'm sorry, I feel for everyone! To do this with just 48 hours is unbelievable! Sending you & anyone else who needs it a big hug. hug
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Reply #237 posted 10/04/16 11:26am

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http://radioalice.cbslocal.com/2016/10/04/minnesota-politicians-debate-prince-paisley-park-museum/

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/oct/04/prince-paisley-park-museum-chanhassen-minnesota

https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/2016/10/04/paisley-park-opening-delayed-minneapolis-town-considers-tourists/tSHks6A9X86lKg2qouqg5L/story.html

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Reply #238 posted 10/04/16 11:26am

morningsong

Bankinherpocket said:

CherryMoon57 said:

The date is listed on the planning commission agenda document I have but on that version, the "Items" column for this meeting was left blank.

wave Hey Cherry! Yes, I think that's because it's not a public meeting...or at least the meeting isn't open to public comments.



Fingers crossed they'll allow a temporary permit.

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doublepost edit

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