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Reply #720 posted 11/13/15 3:35am

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GoldiesParade said:

Whatever his beef is let's put aside. But I do have issue pulling out minutes before the sale. People have planned their day around it and now the result is uncertaincy and, as someone said earlier, no tickets.

Yeah. I'm all for stopping touts get tickets, but today he's stopped fans from getting tickets.

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Reply #721 posted 11/13/15 3:35am

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SquirrelMeat said:

To be fair to Prince, the ticket market is control, with Ticketmaster owning getmein and seatwave, they have bascially become legalised touts themselves.

I like to see him take this on, rather than record labels.

What's the bet we'll get TidalTix soon?

agree...i am prepared to put up with getting annoyed about the ticket postponement if he tells these c**ts to feck off...no excuse that they are making money on the side out of desperate fans....its been going on for years and its time something was done about it..

Then before you announce a tour make sure you have a system in place that you are happy with. So you dont mess people about. Yes things have to change with the ticketing system. Work on it between or after you announce a tour with tickets been pulled minutes before there supposed to go on sale.

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Reply #722 posted 11/13/15 3:35am

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Can someone explain how this works please. How do touts get to own block tickets before general release and even then? I simply don't get it


Two ways.

First, If ticketmaster own the reseller site (getmein), they simply reserve a block for their own sister company and claim the event is sold out.

Secondly, the internet has allowed big tout operations, who have a room full of staff on screens, with multiple credit cards, ready to suck in all the open tickets on release.

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Reply #723 posted 11/13/15 3:36am

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I don't buy the scalpers line either. Man has been doing this for thirty years, he knows the buisness. I think he has jumped on this as an excuse, or maybe as a way to generate interest, in his noble one man march upon the evils of the music industry, or just to make people care. Good publicity.

Yes, he seemed ok with selling last year's gigs through Ticketmaster but not now ?????

At least he is trending on Twitter and got some free publicitiy

Exactly.

It's a bit like a child being builied by the mean kids. He comes running home saying "those boys are bad, they pick on me"


Mom relpies "well stop playing with them".

Then she adds, you a fifty something year old man, you should really grow up in a lot of ways. Stop your game playing it's tiresome and boring. Even the people who love you the most are stretched to breaking point.

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Reply #724 posted 11/13/15 3:37am

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agree...i am prepared to put up with getting annoyed about the ticket postponement if he tells these c**ts to feck off...no excuse that they are making money on the side out of desperate fans....its been going on for years and its time something was done about it..

Then before you announce a tour make sure you have a system in place that you are happy with. So you dont mess people about. Yes things have to change with the ticketing system. Work on it between or after you announce a tour with tickets been pulled minutes before there supposed to go on sale.

YES SIMPLE !! THIS

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Reply #725 posted 11/13/15 3:38am

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No, I did not mate, and I am sorry you had to experience that. I do not believe it was Prince's intention either, it must have been the fact that scalpers had got hold of tickets before the pre-sale that kicked this off, I believe.

I am a woman wink ... that is me on my avatar lol
But Prince sure knew that people were waiting in line and it was to be foreseen that scalpers exist.

If that is you on your avatar than you sure are a woman wink Agree, it is cackhanded by Prince in as much as it is known that this is how Ticketmaster operates and he should done it differently from the start to avoid it. On the upside, maybe you met some nice fellow fans this morning smile

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Reply #726 posted 11/13/15 3:38am

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antonb said:

blackbob said:

agree...i am prepared to put up with getting annoyed about the ticket postponement if he tells these c**ts to feck off...no excuse that they are making money on the side out of desperate fans....its been going on for years and its time something was done about it..

Then before you announce a tour make sure you have a system in place that you are happy with. So you dont mess people about. Yes things have to change with the ticketing system. Work on it between or after you announce a tour with tickets been pulled minutes before there supposed to go on sale.

nod nod nod

With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #727 posted 11/13/15 3:40am

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Stranger said:

Serious said:

I am a woman wink ... that is me on my avatar lol
But Prince sure knew that people were waiting in line and it was to be foreseen that scalpers exist.

If that is you on your avatar than you sure are a woman wink Agree, it is cackhanded by Prince in as much as it is known that this is how Ticketmaster operates and he should done it differently from the start to avoid it. On the upside, maybe you met some nice fellow fans this morning smile

Yeah I did (including an orger who I am now friends on Fb with wink ) but I would have met them regardles that he stopped the sale

With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #728 posted 11/13/15 3:40am

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SquirrelMeat said:



jcurley said:


Can someone explain how this works please. How do touts get to own block tickets before general release and even then? I simply don't get it


Two ways.

First, If ticketmaster own the reseller site (getmein), they simply reserve a block for their own sister company and claim the event is sold out.

Secondly, the internet has allowed big tout operations, who have a room full of staff on screens, with multiple credit cards, ready to suck in all the open tickets on release.



Thx f f for that. Suppose prince has a point but surely this must be the reality of previous gigs. What are his alternatives?
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Reply #729 posted 11/13/15 3:41am

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blackbob said:

feranti said:

I don't buy the scalpers line either. Man has been doing this for thirty years, he knows the buisness. I think he has jumped on this as an excuse, or maybe as a way to generate interest, in his noble one man march upon the evils of the music industry, or just to make people care. Good publicity.

no..i believe him on this one...maybe he was taken aback by the number of tickets that were in the touts hands this time...but these types of gigs are a touts dream because the demand is soo high...they can make a fortune..

Though if venues stick to the named ID policy on the T&C, touts would make nothing at all as any tickets they put up for sale would be worthless.

I figure if people are willing to pay tout prices to see Prince, then they should be informed enough to know that they wouldn't get in without a 1st-hand ticket and ID.

Imho it comes down to the venues to enforce the ticket conditions that have been stated, which I apprecaite may be an issue.

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Reply #730 posted 11/13/15 3:41am

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egansmind said:

antonb said:

Then before you announce a tour make sure you have a system in place that you are happy with. So you dont mess people about. Yes things have to change with the ticketing system. Work on it between or after you announce a tour with tickets been pulled minutes before there supposed to go on sale.

YES SIMPLE !! THIS

its prince we are talking about here...chaos and disorder has been his middle name since that album came out and he left warners and any resemblence of proper management biggrin

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Reply #731 posted 11/13/15 3:43am

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I seethe P camp pulling the tickets from ticketmaster as a way of stopping touts - however it has anooyed genuine P fans who have planned their days around getting tickets.

Why not just have e-tickets - no matching ID then the people don't get into the gig.

Or bring back NPGMC.

Queuing for a day and then getting into a gig is too much work for the die hard ageing P fans!

There must be a better way of selling tickets to fan directly..... with 2 weeks notice and a venue which has allocated seating so there isn't a scrum. We aren't as young as we used to be!

I was at Kings Place last year for the HitNRun tour and two women were trodden on by a storm of drunk blokes rushing to the front because it wasn't allocated seating. This just ruins the experience for everyone - so hopefully P's camp come up with a civilised way of allocating tix to fans with allocated seating.

I do hope this gets sorted as it will be something special for the real fans, that's if the celebrities don't storm the first few rows!

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Reply #732 posted 11/13/15 3:43am

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Maybe if Prince had a PROPER legitmate official website, then the only way to get tix would be directly through that and not have to go independantly onto Ticketmasters, or other sites!! Then we will know that we are getting them through the proper official source!!!

I got my Dave Matthews tix directly through the bands website cos the news of the gigs linked to the bands official site to get tix!!

The same goes for Fleetwood Mac, Duran Duran, Coldplay and other bands and artists!!! All fans go through their offical websites!!

Plus if u do it that way, then u can get VIP packages as well, and even meet-and-greets!!

[Edited 11/13/15 3:45am]

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Reply #733 posted 11/13/15 3:46am

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ThePartyman said:

blackbob said:

no..i believe him on this one...maybe he was taken aback by the number of tickets that were in the touts hands this time...but these types of gigs are a touts dream because the demand is soo high...they can make a fortune..

Though if venues stick to the named ID policy on the T&C, touts would make nothing at all as any tickets they put up for sale would be worthless.

I figure if people are willing to pay tout prices to see Prince, then they should be informed enough to know that they wouldn't get in without a 1st-hand ticket and ID.

Imho it comes down to the venues to enforce the ticket conditions that have been stated, which I apprecaite may be an issue.


Problem is, there will be a large contingent who do buy off the touts, find themselves ripped off for hundreds, will be refused entry and the place will be half full.

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Reply #734 posted 11/13/15 3:46am

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blackbob said:

feranti said:

I don't buy the scalpers line either. Man has been doing this for thirty years, he knows the buisness. I think he has jumped on this as an excuse, or maybe as a way to generate interest, in his noble one man march upon the evils of the music industry, or just to make people care. Good publicity.

no..i believe him on this one...maybe he was taken aback by the number of tickets that were in the touts hands this time...but these types of gigs are a touts dream because the demand is soo high...they can make a fortune..

he saw tickets for 2750 to 5000 on sale and said "nope" cancel

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Reply #735 posted 11/13/15 3:47am

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PurpleSpirit319 said:

Maybe if Prince had a PROPER legitmate official website, then the only way to get tix would be directly through that and not have to go independantly onto Ticketmasters, or other sites!! Then we will know that we are getting them through the proper official source!!!

I got my Dave Matthews tix directly through the bands website cos the news of the gigs linked to the bands official site to get tix!!

The same goes for Fleetwood Mac, Duran Duran, Coldplay and other bands and artists!!! All fans go through their offical websites!!

Plus if u do it that way, then u can get VIP packages as well, and even meet-and-greets!!

[Edited 11/13/15 3:45am]



Do you think Prince's feeble attempt at a Website could cope with the Traffic? lol lol


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Reply #736 posted 11/13/15 3:48am

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BBC now covering it. But not mentioning touts, so negative article.

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Reply #737 posted 11/13/15 3:49am

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SquirrelMeat said:

ThePartyman said:

Though if venues stick to the named ID policy on the T&C, touts would make nothing at all as any tickets they put up for sale would be worthless.

I figure if people are willing to pay tout prices to see Prince, then they should be informed enough to know that they wouldn't get in without a 1st-hand ticket and ID.

Imho it comes down to the venues to enforce the ticket conditions that have been stated, which I apprecaite may be an issue.


Problem is, there will be a large contingent who do buy off the touts, find themselves ripped off for hundreds, will be refused entry and the place will be half full.

You make a very good point.

I imagine he may be as concerned about playing to half a house, as fans paying double for tickets!

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Reply #738 posted 11/13/15 3:51am

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34786945

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Reply #739 posted 11/13/15 3:51am

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fnksoul said:

PurpleSpirit319 said:

Maybe if Prince had a PROPER legitmate official website, then the only way to get tix would be directly through that and not have to go independantly onto Ticketmasters, or other sites!! Then we will know that we are getting them through the proper official source!!!

I got my Dave Matthews tix directly through the bands website cos the news of the gigs linked to the bands official site to get tix!!

The same goes for Fleetwood Mac, Duran Duran, Coldplay and other bands and artists!!! All fans go through their offical websites!!

Plus if u do it that way, then u can get VIP packages as well, and even meet-and-greets!!

[Edited 11/13/15 3:45am]



Do you think Prince's feeble attempt at a Website could cope with the Traffic? lol lol


Other bands and artists official websites do, so why cant Princes official website cope?? Unless he uses a really cheapo server with not much bandwidth space, which I wouldnt put it past him to do!!!

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Reply #740 posted 11/13/15 3:51am

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ThePartyman said:

SquirrelMeat said:


Problem is, there will be a large contingent who do buy off the touts, find themselves ripped off for hundreds, will be refused entry and the place will be half full.

You make a very good point.

I imagine he may be as concerned about playing to half a house, as fans paying double for tickets!


Especially if he was filming it for commercial release! biggrin

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Reply #741 posted 11/13/15 3:52am

antonb

Look im a big prince fan, thats why im sat here like the rest of us, frustrated. If you dont have a system in place your happy with then dont try and sell a tour with them in the first place. Instead of going for fansites or fan blogs spend your lawyers money on setting up your own ticket service like someones just posted. Anyhow back to work for me now, i will just work out the door and they will release the bloody tickets!

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Reply #742 posted 11/13/15 3:52am

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The way I see it the only way of doing tickets for "Big" shows where touts will want to cash in is to bring in Photo Tickets, you have a Photo attached to your profile which is printed onto tickets, allowed two tickets Max and you need to be together when going in, I'd checked at the door.

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Reply #743 posted 11/13/15 3:53am

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PurpleSpirit319 said:

fnksoul said:



Do you think Prince's feeble attempt at a Website could cope with the Traffic? lol lol


Other bands and artists official websites do, so why cant Princes official website cope?? Unless he uses a really cheapo server with not much bandwidth space, which I wouldnt put it past him to do!!!

He is still working thorugh "SQL for dummies", once he has that down he will set it up himself lol lol

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Reply #744 posted 11/13/15 3:58am

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Trying to work, failing. Clicking refresh and listening to FIML - Small club show II. It's funkridden.

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Reply #745 posted 11/13/15 3:59am

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jcurley said:


Can someone explain how this works please. How do touts get to own block tickets before general release and even then? I simply don't get it



Ticket agencies own the touting sites. They sell them through the touting sites rather than the regular site, at inflated prices, before the public even gets a chance to buy them.



Exactly. This is why he's pulled the plug on them. Getmein (owned by Ticketmaster!) were advertising tickets for Drury Lane for nearly £3k! He's not letting them get away with it.
But yeah, come up with plan B already . .
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Reply #746 posted 11/13/15 4:02am

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What are the chances of tickets being released today? Working (refreshing the browser) causing injury to my index finger!

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Reply #747 posted 11/13/15 4:02am

Stranger

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If that is you on your avatar than you sure are a woman wink Agree, it is cackhanded by Prince in as much as it is known that this is how Ticketmaster operates and he should done it differently from the start to avoid it. On the upside, maybe you met some nice fellow fans this morning smile

Yeah I did (including an orger who I am now friends on Fb with wink ) but I would have met them regardles that he stopped the sale

See, it it is never so bad it isn't good for something smile I really hope you get tickets when they come back on sale, best of luck!

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Reply #748 posted 11/13/15 4:02am

fnksoul

PurpleSpirit319 said:

fnksoul said:



Do you think Prince's feeble attempt at a Website could cope with the Traffic? lol lol


Other bands and artists official websites do, so why cant Princes official website cope?? Unless he uses a really cheapo server with not much bandwidth space, which I wouldnt put it past him to do!!!




Because he wont invest in a Decent website that's why, he released how much he blew on past venutues. His current website looks like he made it on WIX.






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Reply #749 posted 11/13/15 4:02am

egansmind

I really dont understand the need for secondary ticketing

Simple thing to do is the Government needs to bring in a law to stop it !

Everyone can see it is a rip off and morally wrong

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