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Thread started 06/02/10 3:49pm

GermanHottie19
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Where is the hype?

I got best front standing tickets for Berlin and I'm really excited about it.

I'm willing and able to help the rainbow children, who are not from here find their way around the city.

Maybe we can even go for a meal beforehand and have some starfish and coffee?

I'm up for meeting some purple freaks.

Contact me! smile

@Prince, if you read this: PLEASE PLAY Dorothy Parker, Starfish and Coffee and Darling Nikki smile Thanks

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18 August 2007, O2 Arena, London
5 July 2010, Waldbühne, Berlin
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Reply #1 posted 06/03/10 1:06pm

eireboy34

No one apparently...

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Reply #2 posted 06/03/10 1:20pm

SuperHero

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eireboy34 said:

No one apparently...

Yes I am going but go will go straight to the Waldbuhne, no time for sightseeing in Berlin.

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Reply #3 posted 06/03/10 1:23pm

eireboy34

SuperHero said:

eireboy34 said:

No one apparently...

Yes I am going but go will go straight to the Waldbuhne, no time for sightseeing in Berlin.

OK so that makes an audience of 2....

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Reply #4 posted 06/03/10 10:55pm

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eireboy34 said:

SuperHero said:

Yes I am going but go will go straight to the Waldbuhne, no time for sightseeing in Berlin.

OK so that makes an audience of 2....

Well actually 3 since my sister comes along as well biggrin

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Reply #5 posted 06/04/10 7:44am

eireboy34

SuperHero said:

eireboy34 said:

OK so that makes an audience of 2....

Well actually 3 since my sister comes along as well biggrin

lol

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Reply #6 posted 06/04/10 5:46pm

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Okay so I changed the subject from "So who is going to Berlin?" asking now:

How come 21 Nites in London sold out like crazy and there was so much energy and hype on this site about it.

And now this European Tour is neither sold out nor does anybody seem to get too exited about it.

Is this because of Croke Park?

Where is the spirit?

18 August 2007, O2 Arena, London
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Reply #7 posted 06/04/10 10:15pm

dayzofwyld

GermanHottie1981 said:

Okay so I changed the subject from "So who is going to Berlin?" asking now:

How come 21 Nites in London sold out like crazy and there was so much energy and hype on this site about it.

And now this European Tour is neither sold out nor does anybody seem to get too exited about it.

Is this because of Croke Park?

Where is the spirit?

1. o2 tickets were £31.21

2. The o2 shows spoiled everyone, great value...great shows (in my opinion) and then the chance of a storming aftershow in the same venue for the same price.
3. I think Prince has generally pissed off a lot of his fans, Croke Park was just nasty (and the boy has now been made to pay for his ways) and his damned Lotusflow3r website must have left a bitter taste in many a mouth. ..thank God I didn't join smile

Not sure about anyone else but I don't care about going to a Prince show and seeing him the size of a pin anymore, queuing for hours, standing on tiptoes with my back and feet ready to disintegrate into a million pieces just to get a glimpse of him, getting pushed and shoved from people who want a better view and feel they have the right to stand in front of you. No thanks!

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Reply #8 posted 06/05/10 12:55am

eireboy34

dayzofwyld said:

GermanHottie1981 said:

Okay so I changed the subject from "So who is going to Berlin?" asking now:

How come 21 Nites in London sold out like crazy and there was so much energy and hype on this site about it.

And now this European Tour is neither sold out nor does anybody seem to get too exited about it.

Is this because of Croke Park?

Where is the spirit?

1. o2 tickets were £31.21

2. The o2 shows spoiled everyone, great value...great shows (in my opinion) and then the chance of a storming aftershow in the same venue for the same price.
3. I think Prince has generally pissed off a lot of his fans, Croke Park was just nasty (and the boy has now been made to pay for his ways) and his damned Lotusflow3r website must have left a bitter taste in many a mouth. ..thank God I didn't join smile

Not sure about anyone else but I don't care about going to a Prince show and seeing him the size of a pin anymore, queuing for hours, standing on tiptoes with my back and feet ready to disintegrate into a million pieces just to get a glimpse of him, getting pushed and shoved from people who want a better view and feel they have the right to stand in front of you. No thanks!

Wise words Bette

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Reply #9 posted 06/05/10 3:12am

levis1

GermanHottie1981 said:

Okay so I changed the subject from "So who is going to Berlin?" asking now:

How come 21 Nites in London sold out like crazy and there was so much energy and hype on this site about it.

And now this European Tour is neither sold out nor does anybody seem to get too exited about it.

Is this because of Croke Park?

Where is the spirit?

The law changing off ticket sales... AEG and tickmaster got a good telling off about creating a false and unlawfull demand. The O2 sold tickets unfairly... If you want to know how i can send you some links ..... It was MJ seat going for £2k on Viagoo theat ended them up in hot water....

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Reply #10 posted 06/05/10 7:47am

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levis1 said:

GermanHottie1981 said:

Okay so I changed the subject from "So who is going to Berlin?" asking now:

How come 21 Nites in London sold out like crazy and there was so much energy and hype on this site about it.

And now this European Tour is neither sold out nor does anybody seem to get too exited about it.

Is this because of Croke Park?

Where is the spirit?

The law changing off ticket sales... AEG and tickmaster got a good telling off about creating a false and unlawfull demand. The O2 sold tickets unfairly... If you want to know how i can send you some links ..... It was MJ seat going for £2k on Viagoo theat ended them up in hot water....

21 nights were sold out...Or do you mean they gave tickets away? wink

I had to pay !

And the hype will come when you see him live! People are already exited and some apparently need the hype with a press conference and interviews like in London....which is great, but

I think the hype will come before the concerts^^

And you don`t think seriously that people don`t buy a Prince ticket because of Croke Park?

Most people don`t know about it....Only some diehard fans or the irish people perhaps....

The shows are selling good and i know we get a good show.....^^

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Reply #11 posted 06/09/10 4:36am

prijsbeestje

hey germanhottie i'm exited but you forget that this is the we complain about everything prince site haha.

don't worry its gonna be great and when some hear that they missed out another great show .then they have a reason to complain .

i'm going to the belguim werchter concert and i'm very exited its gonna be a hot summer.

(ok i'm ready for the attack because i say something positive its forbidden on this page)

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Reply #12 posted 06/09/10 5:25am

eireboy34

prijsbeestje said:

hey germanhottie i'm exited but you forget that this is the we complain about everything prince site haha.

don't worry its gonna be great and when some hear that they missed out another great show .then they have a reason to complain .

i'm going to the belguim werchter concert and i'm very exited its gonna be a hot summer.

(ok i'm ready for the attack because i say something positive its forbidden on this page)

How DARE you say something positive on these pages!!!

Get moaning NOW!!!!!! lol

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Reply #13 posted 06/09/10 7:57am

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Prince has pushed his luck for years, but he generally had the good music to back it up. But his hardcore fans are leaving at a greater pace now than ever before.

Whats gone wrong? Here's ten reasons....

1. The music. Lotusflower bombed and the latest tracks are B side at best.

2. Croke Park - Its making thousands pass.

3. The Website - He royally shafted huge amounts of fans for $77. Not cool.

4. Venues - Stadiums are unpopular at the best of times

5. Locations - Arras? He needs to be in Paris. He needs better promoters.

6. Motive - This feels like a money grap to pay off his debts

7. Price - He is charging A list prices, for B list set up and support acts

8. Promotion - He need to get over here and promote it!

9. Attractiveness - Taking babies to court and walking out on concert deals. Doesn't help.

10. Late notice - Stadium shows need time to sell. He should have started 6 month out.

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Reply #14 posted 06/09/10 8:53am

Soulstar77A

11. Information - I mean the lack of.... I would have never bought Tickets for Arras and Belgium if there would have been made some sort of "tour schedule" available in advance

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Reply #15 posted 06/09/10 9:31am

prijsbeestje

SquirrelMeat said:

Prince has pushed his luck for years, but he generally had the good music to back it up. But his hardcore fans are leaving at a greater pace now than ever before.

Whats gone wrong? Here's ten reasons....

1. The music. Lotusflower bombed and the latest tracks are B side at best.

2. Croke Park - Its making thousands pass.

3. The Website - He royally shafted huge amounts of fans for $77. Not cool.

4. Venues - Stadiums are unpopular at the best of times

5. Locations - Arras? He needs to be in Paris. He needs better promoters.

6. Motive - This feels like a money grap to pay off his debts

7. Price - He is charging A list prices, for B list set up and support acts

8. Promotion - He need to get over here and promote it!

9. Attractiveness - Taking babies to court and walking out on concert deals. Doesn't help.

10. Late notice - Stadium shows need time to sell. He should have started 6 month out.

1.lotusflower was a great album MNPLsound was ok

2.i agree on this

3.77$ was not that high .yes we could have much more for that price

but for me -i got 3 albums .some video's that got lost in my collection

4.stadiums are not unpopular but its summer so people planned there vacations

5.paris would be better but he got the deal with the werchter guys for arras .yes he needs better promotors

6.no its not .the man from werchter asked prince to come play and make a deal for 2 other gigs

thats when things started and more concerts were planned

7 .its a normal price nothing strange about that (i go to concerts all the time) jamie lidell ,larry graham are no B list support acts

8.yep i agree he needs to promote this tour .but i think he will

9.agree again not very nice

10. agree again but this was not planned it all started with the werchter gig

and yes can be a bigg ass sometimes .that's prince always have been.

ps sorry for the bad spellings

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Reply #16 posted 06/10/10 10:16am

Marrk

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SquirrelMeat said:

Prince has pushed his luck for years, but he generally had the good music to back it up. But his hardcore fans are leaving at a greater pace now than ever before.

Whats gone wrong? Here's ten reasons....

1. The music. Lotusflower bombed and the latest tracks are B side at best.

2. Croke Park - Its making thousands pass.

3. The Website - He royally shafted huge amounts of fans for $77. Not cool.

4. Venues - Stadiums are unpopular at the best of times

5. Locations - Arras? He needs to be in Paris. He needs better promoters.

6. Motive - This feels like a money grap to pay off his debts

7. Price - He is charging A list prices, for B list set up and support acts

8. Promotion - He need to get over here and promote it!

9. Attractiveness - Taking babies to court and walking out on concert deals. Doesn't help.

10. Late notice - Stadium shows need time to sell. He should have started 6 month out.

Agree with a lot of those. I went to 7 gigs at the O2, couple of aftershows. I was generally not impressed with the main shows, though the setlists were interchangeable, i found myself bored in a 'seen it all before' way. Much preferred the 'One Nite Alone' tour in 2002.

I can't get excited for another P visit. Maybe, I'm just not that interested anymore. shrug

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Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #17 posted 06/10/10 10:46am

polkadotbliss

sadly im kinda there too

crazy how-after having such a great rep live-wise, P could blow it with one cancellation. But Croke did that-for me. No way am i travelling when he dosen't promote-hell even confirm that its even really gonna happen anynmore.......kinda-if you can't be arsed buddy-why shoukld i?

and-indigo2 totally spoiled me. I know i'll never get nights like that again-the PERFECT set up

a festival-day light show and hours of travelling-at THOSE prices..no thanks

it does not help-that he keeps 'giving' us these crappy tunes-i liked Lotus (the music-not letusFUover.con) but if the new thing is-release good music-but don't tour or play it live-well thats not for me-can't really see the point in all honesty

im actually amazed at how he seems to do this on puropse.-After the triumphant 2007..then Croke-then THAT web site-now were here

struggling to even sell 3000 gold circle tickets

sorry-but he does kinda deserve it

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Reply #18 posted 06/10/10 11:56am

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SquirrelMeat said:

Prince has pushed his luck for years, but he generally had the good music to back it up. But his hardcore fans are leaving at a greater pace now than ever before.

Whats gone wrong? Here's ten reasons....

1. The music. Lotusflower bombed and the latest tracks are B side at best.

2. Croke Park - Its making thousands pass.

3. The Website - He royally shafted huge amounts of fans for $77. Not cool.

4. Venues - Stadiums are unpopular at the best of times

5. Locations - Arras? He needs to be in Paris. He needs better promoters.

6. Motive - This feels like a money grap to pay off his debts

7. Price - He is charging A list prices, for B list set up and support acts

8. Promotion - He need to get over here and promote it!

9. Attractiveness - Taking babies to court and walking out on concert deals. Doesn't help.

10. Late notice - Stadium shows need time to sell. He should have started 6 month out.

To be fair he been tyring to get rid of most of them for a long time now, i don't blame him, he's kind of out grown all that 80's stuff / early 90's stuff ... he's left that lifestyle behind so fan's that want that have the CD's.... don't expect that stuff from Prince now ...but alot of the newer fan's not so diehard fans are more open to his 70, 80, 90, 00, 10 work and they are cool with how he is now, they just buy CD's and go to Concerts , buy DVD's and happy with it, they can take or leave it with regards to websites, they are just not that fussed lol

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Reply #19 posted 06/10/10 12:47pm

polkadotbliss

lol

i said 'seems' to.

i for 1 dont seriously think Prince gets up and thinks-um-how many fans can i drive away today

he's in the business if SELLING to as many as possible

so to insinuate he wants rid of folk like me is riduculous

and for the record-MOST fans were and are bothered by the failed web site

it was a kick in the teeth to those that actually put their money where their mouth is and backed the project

DID YOUI JOIN................im guessing-no

in which case im not suprised you find expousing such rubbish so easy

and who the hell mentioned wanting the past back

theres no hype cuz not much to get hyped over

another hits show-high prices-and possibly a cancellation AGAIN

yayyyyyyy lets have a party:-o eek eek

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Reply #20 posted 06/10/10 3:17pm

Soulstar77A

Dreamer2 said:

buy DVD's and happy with it

There hasn't been a new DVD for almost ten years now rolleyes

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Reply #21 posted 06/10/10 5:31pm

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Dreamer2 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Prince has pushed his luck for years, but he generally had the good music to back it up. But his hardcore fans are leaving at a greater pace now than ever before.

Whats gone wrong? Here's ten reasons....

1. The music. Lotusflower bombed and the latest tracks are B side at best.

2. Croke Park - Its making thousands pass.

3. The Website - He royally shafted huge amounts of fans for $77. Not cool.

4. Venues - Stadiums are unpopular at the best of times

5. Locations - Arras? He needs to be in Paris. He needs better promoters.

6. Motive - This feels like a money grap to pay off his debts

7. Price - He is charging A list prices, for B list set up and support acts

8. Promotion - He need to get over here and promote it!

9. Attractiveness - Taking babies to court and walking out on concert deals. Doesn't help.

10. Late notice - Stadium shows need time to sell. He should have started 6 month out.

To be fair he been tyring to get rid of most of them for a long time now, i don't blame him, he's kind of out grown all that 80's stuff / early 90's stuff ... he's left that lifestyle behind so fan's that want that have the CD's.... don't expect that stuff from Prince now ...but alot of the newer fan's not so diehard fans are more open to his 70, 80, 90, 00, 10 work and they are cool with how he is now, they just buy CD's and go to Concerts , buy DVD's and happy with it, they can take or leave it with regards to websites, they are just not that fussed lol

Looks like thats "new" fans didn't bother to buy tickets to the show either.

and if Prince left it all behind, why try promoting every show as "the last time he'll play the hits!"?

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Reply #22 posted 06/10/10 11:14pm

dayzofwyld

SquirrelMeat said:

Dreamer2 said:

To be fair he been tyring to get rid of most of them for a long time now, i don't blame him, he's kind of out grown all that 80's stuff / early 90's stuff ... he's left that lifestyle behind so fan's that want that have the CD's.... don't expect that stuff from Prince now ...but alot of the newer fan's not so diehard fans are more open to his 70, 80, 90, 00, 10 work and they are cool with how he is now, they just buy CD's and go to Concerts , buy DVD's and happy with it, they can take or leave it with regards to websites, they are just not that fussed lol

Looks like thats "new" fans didn't bother to buy tickets to the show either.

and if Prince left it all behind, why try promoting every show as "the last time he'll play the hits!"?

Hasn't he been touting the "last time" thing since the o2 shows? I'd actually find him more interesting if he didn't but this would obviously drive away the casual fans who want to hear Purple Rain etc.

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Reply #23 posted 06/14/10 1:11am

Claire73

Can I also add the the list,the whole youtube debarkle? I'm pretty sure thats left a bad taste in fans mouths mad

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Reply #24 posted 06/14/10 2:53am

dayzofwyld

Claire73 said:

Can I also add the the list,the whole youtube debarkle? I'm pretty sure thats left a bad taste in fans mouths mad

Yes good point, when you look back there are countless examples of leaving a bad taste in fans mouths...shame really.

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Reply #25 posted 06/14/10 9:33am

robertlove

Claire73 said:

Can I also add the the list,the whole youtube debarkle? I'm pretty sure thats left a bad taste in fans mouths mad

Yeah, the youtube thing was probably the worst decision he made in his career....it made him vanish from everybody

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robertlove said:

Claire73 said:

Can I also add the the list,the whole youtube debarkle? I'm pretty sure thats left a bad taste in fans mouths mad

Yeah, the youtube thing was probably the worst decision he made in his career....it made him vanish from everybody

I think some of you need to get out more often. The videos are now up on YOUTUBE and all artist are being paid. Do you think P was the only one having his stuff pulled off.

Only the diehards care about one show in Ireland being cancelled. I could see if P had a rep for never showing up for concerts but he does not. I have never seen a cancelled concert be so blown out of porpotion. I think these few shows will go over well and all of you naysayers will be back singing his praises as usual.

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Reply #27 posted 06/21/10 12:44am

polkadotbliss

in fairness though

most other artists that cancel bother to come up with a viable excuse why they don't turn up-Prince obviously in this case feels he does not need to bother to even come up with a lie-it seems he just couldn't be arsed with it-which is a real slap in the face to those that lost out on air fares etc

so with that kind of ignorant handling-your suprised it went down so badly ?

oh sorry-i forgot-Prince does not need to explain. Does not need to be respectful-just to preach it to all that'll listen-whilst sticking it to em' in any way he sees fit-like closing a web site in his mind-pretty much the day he opened it

funnily enough-he still took the cash though

just like Croke Park

lol-only die hards care.......................that'll keep me chuckling all day-such a Laurarichardsonism

eek eek eek

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Reply #28 posted 06/21/10 7:25am

dayzofwyld

laurarichardson said:

robertlove said:

Yeah, the youtube thing was probably the worst decision he made in his career....it made him vanish from everybody

I think some of you need to get out more often. The videos are now up on YOUTUBE and all artist are being paid. Do you think P was the only one having his stuff pulled off.

Only the diehards care about one show in Ireland being cancelled. I could see if P had a rep for never showing up for concerts but he does not. I have never seen a cancelled concert be so blown out of porpotion. I think these few shows will go over well and all of you naysayers will be back singing his praises as usual.

Prince pulling a video because a baby is dancing to one of his tunes..oh come on..how petty is that.

I think you need to get out more often for being so nieve, do you think a casual fan who thought a weekend in Ireland catching a Prince concert was more than happy to lose their air fares \ hotel costs...wake up...I am guessing you were one of the diehard fans who had no intention of going..didn't lose any money and can make fleeting statements like that.

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Reply #29 posted 06/21/10 9:23am

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dayzofwyld said:

laurarichardson said:

I think some of you need to get out more often. The videos are now up on YOUTUBE and all artist are being paid. Do you think P was the only one having his stuff pulled off.

Only the diehards care about one show in Ireland being cancelled. I could see if P had a rep for never showing up for concerts but he does not. I have never seen a cancelled concert be so blown out of porpotion. I think these few shows will go over well and all of you naysayers will be back singing his praises as usual.

Prince pulling a video because a baby is dancing to one of his tunes..oh come on..how petty is that.

I think you need to get out more often for being so nieve, do you think a casual fan who thought a weekend in Ireland catching a Prince concert was more than happy to lose their air fares \ hotel costs...wake up...I am guessing you were one of the diehard fans who had no intention of going..didn't lose any money and can make fleeting statements like that.

Do you think that P walked away from a concert that he would have made millions on just to fuck with people’s heads? I am sure he had a reason even the promoter said it may have been health related. We do not know what the reason was but I find it hard to believe that some of you are so naïve that you think he cancelled the concert out of some sort of spitefulness. Concerts get cancelled all the time it is not a big deal. Maxwell just cancelled the rest of his tour and I understand U2 just cancelled a bunch of shows. Trust me I get out plenty and some of you need to do so to get out of the bitch and moan that you are stuck in.

As far as the dancing baby Universal was also involved in the cease and desist letter for removing that video. Do you think they struck a deal to handle P’s publishing for grins and giggles their job is to collect fees for the use of the music. Of course they are going to ask that any unpaid use by removed. I honestly think some of you find it easier to be mad at the artist for demanding payment instead of Goggle who should have been coughing up money all along.

[Edited 6/21/10 9:24am]

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