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Trump Impeachment Hearings Discussion - Part 2

First thread got too long so I have locked that one and created this thread so the discussion can be continued.

If anyone has a link to view transcripts, orgnote me. thanks.


First discussion: https://prince.org/msg/105/460811

c-span.org impeachment page: https://www.c-span.org/impeachment/


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U.S. ambassador to EU said Trump 'doesn't give a shit about Ukraine,' David Holmes says

The Associated Press · Posted: Nov 15, 2019 7:38 PM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago
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U.S. diplomat David Holmes reportedly testified behind closed doors that he overheard a conversation with President Donald Trump asking a diplomat about 'investigations' in Ukraine. (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)



U.S. State Department official David Holmes told impeachment investigators Friday that he overheard a conversation with President Donald Trump asking a diplomat about "investigations" in Ukraine, according those familiar with Holmes's closed-door deposition.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/w...-1.5362039



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Highlights from Marie Yovanovitch's public testimony on Trump and Ukraine



Public session got surreal as Adam Schiff read out disparaging Trump tweet soon after it was sent


https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/yovanovitch-ukraine-testimony-highlights-1.5360639

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Impeachment investigators slate open hearings for 8 more witnesses next week

(CNN)The House Intelligence Committee on Tuesday announced it will hear publicly from eight witnesses over three days next week, in another sign Democrats are pushing to complete their impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump before the end of the year.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/...index.html

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Reply #3 posted 11/16/19 5:31pm

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Thank you luv.

Yes, reading the tweet in real time was surreal. Especially since it was about the person testifying at that moment. Witness intimidation.

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If Trump claiming credit for a good US economy the day after being elected didn't sound stupid, those still clinging to him as reposnsible for anything other than the worst division and ugliest atmosphere among Americans, (in any other reality) would have by now come to realize that the US doing relatively well DESPITE the election of this piece of shit.
I just hope this doesn't end the same way that W took a good economy he inherited and collapsed it.

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If Trump claiming credit for a good US economy the day after being elected didn't sound stupid, those still clinging to him as reposnsible for anything other than the worst division and ugliest atmosphere among Americans, (in any other reality) would have by now come to realize that the US doing relatively well DESPITE the election of this piece of shit.



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Meet the Press pundits are saying Bolton will spill the beans.

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Trump Just Tweeted He Was At Walter Reed For “Phase One” Of His Physical Even Though Reporter Claims He Was There For “Chest Discomfort”

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Since yesterday afternoon, the majority of the country has been a-buzz with the news of Trump’s health physical. Now, it’s certainly customary for the person that’s serving as the president of the United States to have regular physicals conducted, right? So you may be asking, what made this particular check-up worthy of such a tizzy?


Well, it was completely unscheduled, random, and unannounced. That’s why.


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Everyone is "a-buzz" because we know he is always full of shit.
Everyones yearly exams are done every 12 months, not split in half with some of it done 4 months early.

If anyone took half of their yearly exam 4 months early we would wonder why.

I have no doubt Trump at 72 was not feeling well so they took his ass to the hospital. Which is perfectly fine. I don't see why they need to bullshit every single he does. Just say he didn't feel well and let it go.

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Trump Just Tweeted He Was At Walter Reed For “Phase One” Of His Physical Even Though Reporter Claims He Was There For “Chest Discomfort”

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by Andrea Thompson59 mins ago59 mins ago

Since yesterday afternoon, the majority of the country has been a-buzz with the news of Trump’s health physical. Now, it’s certainly customary for the person that’s serving as the president of the United States to have regular physicals conducted, right? So you may be asking, what made this particular check-up worthy of such a tizzy?


Well, it was completely unscheduled, random, and unannounced. That’s why.


https://politicaltribune....rVHXrsjvbI



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Everyone is "a-buzz" because we know he is always full of shit. nod

Don't think "the majority of the country has been a-buzz" anyway, maybe just Andrea Thompson, although we heard about it. And Trump is 73, wish he was 103.

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Everyone is "a-buzz" because we know he is always full of shit. nod

Don't think "the majority of the country has been a-buzz" anyway, maybe just Andrea Thompson, although we heard about it. And Trump is 73, wish he was 103.

[Edited 11/17/19 11:18am]


His WH doctor last year commented that with his “incredible genes” he could have lived to be 200 years old.

I don't know if they hired him a "witch-doctor" to go with the "witch-hunt", ..or whether that's a curse, or they just need a better doctor.

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poppys said:

Everyone is "a-buzz" because we know he is always full of shit. nod

Don't think "the majority of the country has been a-buzz" anyway, maybe just Andrea Thompson, although we heard about it. And Trump is 73, wish he was 103.


His WH doctor last year commented that with his “incredible genes” he could have lived to be 200 years old.

I don't know if they hired him a "witch-doctor" to go with the "witch-hunt", ..or whether that's a curse, or they just need a better doctor.

He must have plenty of voodoo and root work placed on him by now. And stuff to counteract any protection gris-gris.

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poppys said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:


His WH doctor last year commented that with his “incredible genes” he could have lived to be 200 years old.

I don't know if they hired him a "witch-doctor" to go with the "witch-hunt", ..or whether that's a curse, or they just need a better doctor.

He must have plenty of voodoo and root work placed on him by now. And stuff to counteract any protection gris-gris.



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so, Sondland had changed his testimony when it seems he remembered about quid pro quo when witnesses were testifying he was full of shit.
Well it seems he knew a lot more.

Enough with these lying sacks of shit. I hope congress charges him with perjury and sends his ass to jail. All of these assholes need to be set example of.

Ambassador Sondland, a key player in the impeachment inquiry, flaunted access to Trump on a loud call in a Ukrainian restaurant, officials allege ahead of his testimony


Gordon Sondland, US Ambassador to the European Union, is facing mounting pressure as testimony from multiple officials paint him as a key part of President Donald Trump's dealings in Ukraine that sparked House Democrats' impeachment inquiry.

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poppys said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:


His WH doctor last year commented that with his “incredible genes” he could have lived to be 200 years old.

I don't know if they hired him a "witch-doctor" to go with the "witch-hunt", ..or whether that's a curse, or they just need a better doctor.

He must have plenty of voodoo and root work placed on him by now. And stuff to counteract any protection gris-gris.


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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

so, Sondland had changed his testimony when it seems he remembered about quid pro quo when witnesses were testifying he was full of shit.
Well it seems he knew a lot more.

Enough with these lying sacks of shit. I hope congress charges him with perjury and sends his ass to jail. All of these assholes need to be set example of.

Ambassador Sondland, a key player in the impeachment inquiry, flaunted access to Trump on a loud call in a Ukrainian restaurant, officials allege ahead of his testimony


Gordon Sondland, US Ambassador to the European Union, is facing mounting pressure as testimony from multiple officials paint him as a key part of President Donald Trump's dealings in Ukraine that sparked House Democrats' impeachment inquiry.


Sondland should know by now that LYING to Congress has consequences.

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

so, Sondland had changed his testimony when it seems he remembered about quid pro quo when witnesses were testifying he was full of shit.
Well it seems he knew a lot more.

Enough with these lying sacks of shit. I hope congress charges him with perjury and sends his ass to jail. All of these assholes need to be set example of.

Ambassador Sondland, a key player in the impeachment inquiry, flaunted access to Trump on a loud call in a Ukrainian restaurant, officials allege ahead of his testimony


Gordon Sondland, US Ambassador to the European Union, is facing mounting pressure as testimony from multiple officials paint him as a key part of President Donald Trump's dealings in Ukraine that sparked House Democrats' impeachment inquiry.


Sondland should know by now that LYING to Congress has consequences.


Another huge Trump donor and supporter afraid of going to jail. According to pundits, the Repubs are going to say he's a liar because he changed his testimony, so which one is true?

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He must have plenty of voodoo and root work placed on him by now. And stuff to counteract any protection gris-gris.



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Nunes, being the asshole he is, is just trying to get at the whistleblower by going through names.
Jeeez. They have nothing, so they now just want to out the whistleblower.

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Nunes, being the asshole he is, is just trying to put the whistleblower by going through names.
Jeeez. They have nothing, so they now just want to out the whistleblower.


Trump is after the name. That is the thorn in his side.


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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Nunes, being the asshole he is, is just trying to put the whistleblower by going through names.

Jeeez. They have nothing, so they now just want to out the whistleblower.



Trump is after the name. That is the thorn in his side.




Exactly. Trump did everything he is being accused of, much of it in plain sight and earshot. He was trying to get a twofer - helping Russia (Putin) regain Ukraine, and getting dirt to use on his 2020 election opponent all in one swoop.

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Now Jim Jordan is at if again and trying to smear Vindman with accusations. Petty and vile.

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The whole narrative about the Ukrainians not knowing aid was being withheld (not that it matters legally) is falling apart. David Holmes testimony on Thurs should be interesting. The full transcript in NPR link below (redacted) from the private testimony yesterday, haven't read all of it yet.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-david-holmes-full-testimonies-in-trump-impeachment-inquiry

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Without anything else, Trump defenders seemed to have settled on trying to smear or discredit anyone testifying. And let's remember, from the get go, even with Mueller himself, these people are are decorated well respected professionals who are mostly republicans themselves and some even chosen by Trump and his staff themselves. So the partisan angle is bunk. They even have to stoop to calling them "never Trumpers" to have a label to call them

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Without anything else, Trump defenders seemed to have settled on trying to smear or discredit anyone testifying. And let's remember, from the get go, even with Mueller himself, these people are are decorated well respected professionals who are mostly republicans themselves and some even chosen by Trump and his staff themselves. So the partisan angle is bunk. They even have to stoop to calling them "never Trumpers" to have a label to call them


Agree. They are shitting all over Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a decorated war hero. Loved it when Jennifer Williams said she is not even sure what a never Trumper is. Even the reluctant attorney pundits are saying the Repubs have no counter argument.

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poppys said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Without anything else, Trump defenders seemed to have settled on trying to smear or discredit anyone testifying. And let's remember, from the get go, even with Mueller himself, these people are are decorated well respected professionals who are mostly republicans themselves and some even chosen by Trump and his staff themselves. So the partisan angle is bunk. They even have to stoop to calling them "never Trumpers" to have a label to call them


Agree. They are shitting all over Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a decorated war hero. Loved it when Jennifer Williams said she is not even sure what a never Trumper is. Even the reluctant attorney pundits are saying the Repubs have no counter argument.


It's an attempt, I think, to make him look unreliable as well as discredit him.

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Oh wow Jim Jordan is trying to imply that Lt. Col. Vindman knows the identity of the whistle blower. Reaching for straws.

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as this was happening I was wondering why Schiff was even allowing it any oxygen and not shutting it down even sooner.

Devin Nunes Tries Coaxing Impeachment Witness To Out Whistleblower

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman’s counsel was forced to step in during the awkward moment.

https://www.huffpost.com/...849eab0c59
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Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) tried using part of his time while questioning National Security Council official Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman during Tuesday morning’s impeachment hearing to gather information about the whistleblower ― but was quickly shut down by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff.

Republicans defending President Donald Trump have attempted to create suspicion around the whistleblower report about a July 25 phone call between the U.S. president and his Ukrainian counterpart that kicked off the inquiry.

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The latest polling shows 51% of Americans support impeachment AND removal from office for unrepentant serial adulterer Donald J. Trump.

Based on what I've seen this morning, that percentage is only going to rise.

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