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Reply #30 posted 11/04/19 1:59pm

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Eek. Kinda hoping to discuss how Prince's music being used. Anyway to move off the candidates themselves, please?
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Reply #31 posted 11/04/19 3:10pm

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Reply #32 posted 11/04/19 7:31pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Only is a horrible guy. What is wrong with you?

coming from you! I am happy to be!

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Reply #33 posted 11/05/19 1:53pm

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Dauphin said:

The NPG tribute band featuring Morris Hayes, Sonny T., Tony M., Et Al, will be performing in MPLS at a political rally featuring presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders, and U.S. House Representative Ilhan Omar.

How do you feel about this? Is this a respectful use of his material?



To the question at hand - I do not think it was respectful of the NPG to play Prince's songs at a political event.

The NPG members have a right to their own politics, but those aren't their songs. They're Prince's songs and his opposition to using his songs in politics was well-known.

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Reply #34 posted 11/05/19 2:06pm

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Baltimore is a political protest song. Prince organized his Rally 4 Peace benefit concert there to raise money.

He made brief remarks from the stage, telling the crowd: "The system is broken. It's going to take the young people to fix it this time. We need new ideas, new life. ... The next time I come to Baltimore I want to stay in a hotel owned by you."

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Reply #35 posted 11/06/19 1:40am

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poppys said:

Baltimore is a political protest song. Prince organized his Rally 4 Peace benefit concert there to raise money.

He made brief remarks from the stage, telling the crowd: "The system is broken. It's going to take the young people to fix it this time. We need new ideas, new life. ... The next time I come to Baltimore I want to stay in a hotel owned by you."

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Prince's view was "the system was broken". He never openly endorsed a national-level candidate, and often wriggled his way around interviewers when asked what he thought of candidate x, etc. He didn't vote and indirectly encouraged others not to vote. He thought it was a waste of time. "Ain't no use in voting, same song with a different name" (Dear Mr. Man). "Upload a 2-party system, the lesser of 2 dangers, illusion of choice. Download a veiled form of fascism, nothing really ever changes, U never had a voice" (Colonized Mind). Prince wrote plenty of songs dissing democracy ("demon-crazy" as he called it on the song titled Democrazy).
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It just seems off to me having The NPG at a democratic rally. I doubt very much that Prince would have been a Bernie Sanders supporter. But, as others have pointed out, Prince is gone and it's not his call anymore. True. But that doesn't mean I don't feel that something is off here (and for the record, I am pro-democracy and pro-voting!)

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Reply #36 posted 11/06/19 5:13am

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toejam said:

poppys said:

Baltimore is a political protest song. Prince organized his Rally 4 Peace benefit concert there to raise money.

He made brief remarks from the stage, telling the crowd: "The system is broken. It's going to take the young people to fix it this time. We need new ideas, new life. ... The next time I come to Baltimore I want to stay in a hotel owned by you."

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Prince's view was "the system was broken". He never openly endorsed a national-level candidate, and often wriggled his way around interviewers when asked what he thought of candidate x, etc. He didn't vote and indirectly encouraged others not to vote. He thought it was a waste of time. "Ain't no use in voting, same song with a different name" (Dear Mr. Man). "Upload a 2-party system, the lesser of 2 dangers, illusion of choice. Download a veiled form of fascism, nothing really ever changes, U never had a voice" (Colonized Mind). Prince wrote plenty of songs dissing democracy ("demon-crazy" as he called it on the song titled Democrazy).
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It just seems off to me having The NPG at a democratic rally. I doubt very much that Prince would have been a Bernie Sanders supporter. But, as others have pointed out, Prince is gone and it's not his call anymore. True. But that doesn't mean I don't feel that something is off here (and for the record, I am pro-democracy and pro-voting!)


Baltimore was in 2015, close to when he died. Coupled with the rally, that was activism. We don't know what Prince would have thought of voting in the situation we're in now, and I am not going to speculate.

I really don't have a dog in this fight. I would not have liked it if they played at a Trump rally, for reasons I've already said, regarding his worldview and especially treatment of minorities and women. I don't think Trump is even close to anything Prince would support. Bernie is much more inclusive.

The Beatles song Revolution became a Nike commercial many years ago. I remember really disliking that. Now any snippet of a song is used to promote or sell something, even if it completely changes the meaniing. I can't say I loved Let's go Crazy selling Capital One credit cards either.

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Reply #37 posted 11/06/19 7:26am

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Reply #38 posted 11/06/19 9:40pm

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poppys said:
Baltimore was in 2015, close to when he died. Coupled with the rally, that was activism.

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Being an activist is not the same as openly supporting a national-level Presidential contender.

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We don't know what Prince would have thought of voting in the situation we're in now, and I am not going to speculate.

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It's true we can't know. Prince was unpredictable. But we can make some educated guesses. I doubt very much he would have wanted the NPG brand to support any national-level politician, Republican or Democrat. To my knowledge, he didn't show any sign of supporting Sanders in 2014-16 when he had the opportunity to.

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I really don't have a dog in this fight.

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Neither do I. I ain't dissing the NPG. I love those dudes. I'm just expressing that I'm not sold on this move. It seems a bit distasteful to me.

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I would not have liked it if they played at a Trump rally, for reasons I've already said, regarding his worldview and especially treatment of minorities and women. I don't think Trump is even close to anything Prince would support. Bernie is much more inclusive.

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I don't think Trump is close to anything Prince would support either. But nor is Bernie! Bernie wants higher taxes on the rich, no? Prince was generally not a fan of paying his taxes and he was a rich dude!

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The Beatles song Revolution became a Nike commercial many years ago. I remember really disliking that. Now any snippet of a song is used to promote or sell something, even if it completely changes the meaniing. I can't say I loved Let's go Crazy selling Capital One credit cards either.

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Yeah. And that's how I feel about the NPG supporting a national-level Presidential candidate.

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Reply #39 posted 11/06/19 10:40pm

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You don't live or vote here. I find the embedded format of a reply to my every sentence overbearing and distasteful. There is no need for all that. Certainly not a discussion. I'm not here for it. Ta.

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Reply #40 posted 11/07/19 1:19am

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poppys said:

You don't live or vote here.

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I'm not sure why this disqualifies me from expressing my opinion.

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I find the embedded format of a reply to my every sentence overbearing and distasteful. There is no need for all that.

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I think it's useful for clarification.

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Certainly not a discussion.

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Yes it is.

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I'm not here for it. Ta.

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Fair enough. Bye.

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