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The Great White Hoax: Who Told You You Were White? And Why?

This is a basic understanding of 'whiteness' that simply needs to be discussed in schools. And from there discussions about other specific ethnic groups like the Irish, Italians etc and whiteness

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Though I've touched on the development of the white mindset before, I continue to uncover more historical and present dimensions of it – in myself and in others. Most recently, Dr. Ibram Kendi's National Book Award Winner Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America has been a source of new knowledge and understanding.

Using his research along with others listed in Resources below, here is a brief account of a pivotal point in what I'll call the Great White Hoax:

For decades after Europeans came to this land, there was a distinct class system:

Wealthy white landowners, business owners and plantation owners were clearly at the apex, holding absolute power.

All others were in an amalgamated lower class that consisted of:

Free laborers – of all "races"Indentured laborers – of all "races" (under term-limited contracts to those who brought them here)Enslaved laborers – of all "races"

Until the late 1600's, these lower-class people intermingled, socialized, and intermarried. They shared a common bond: frustration with the oppressive systems devised by the wealthy power people.

In 1676 a white Virginian Nathaniel Bacon organized a rebellion, recruiting a thousand Virginians from ALL the lower-class categories. The rebellion was eventually quelled, but as author Kendi observes, in the eyes of wealthy owners, "poor Whites and enslaved Blacks joining hands presaged the apocalypse."

Those owners resurrected an ancient technique to defuse the possibility:

Divide and Conquer.

Convince the "white" people (free, indentured or slave) that they were clearly superior to those "black" people, and were more rightly akin to the wealthy "whites." Over the next decades, a series of laws, codes and restrictions (property rights, voting rights, right to bear arms, etc.) were instituted to grant favor to "whites" over others.

The bottom line is this:

We were taught to esteem our white skin and white unityMore importantly, we were taught that white-skinned people are superior to black-skinned people.Why were we taught this? So that wealthy whites could count on poor whites to side with them against black-skinned people.

This strategy was an overwhelming success. The owners could now simply appeal to the higher status granted by whiteness to convince the white masses to join them in deriding, castigating and persecuting those inferior, bumbling, pathetic Blacks – successfully diverting the attention of the other whites from the injustices they suffered alongside the Black folks.

Thus, the racial divide was intentionally fostered and enshrined. Kendi recounts how bogus "scientific" research was devised to prove the superiority of white people, all debunked over time, but touted by many of our most esteemed leaders over the centuries. (One description of many from Jefferson: "In imagination are they dull, tasteless and anomalous, and in reason much inferior.") The truth: Physical variations seen among "races" developed over centuries, due to a process of natural selection including geographic adaptation. Genetic testing now gives incontrovertible evidence that we are simply one human race.

That faux scientific evidence is rarely touted now, but the strategy of "Divide and Conquer" has prevailed. The infamous Southern Strategy, which turned the democratic South solid red, was articulated by Nixon campaign strategist Lee Atwater in 1968 (The Nation, Nov. 2012). Republican politicians of that era began to speak in a kind of racial code, designed to turn white working-class voters against government programs, the very kind of government programs that these workers themselves had benefited from for years, because those "Negroes" were taking advantage of them!

To be clear, this Southern Strategy was as effective in the North as it was in the South. It continues with today's dog-whistle politics, but it also continues in many progressive/liberal minds in a more subtle and no-less toxic form: "helping." Please consider the possibility that your good works may be tainted: tutoring, mentoring, making contributions, hiring minorities, serving on not-for-profit Boards, etc.. I've found that my compassion contains at least some traces of condescension, which is white superiority, which is white supremacy.

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This does not mean that we stop trying! The point is not that we quit what we're doing, but that we become more astute in recognizing how deep-seated our biases are, how entrenched white superiority is in our DNA. This consciousness can foster a "cleaner" approach to what we do, a more humble attitude. As I deepen my awareness, for example, I find myself listening more, absorbing the wisdom of those I had set out to "help."

Join in this awakening by using the resources listed here.

Comments and suggestions welcome below.

Resources:

Stamped From the Beginning – The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America. National Book Award Winner by Dr. Ibram X. Kendi. Traces the development of the uniquely American brand of racism, tracking the calculated origins of the race idea. He details the extent to which white people have been duped into seeing ourselves as a superior people.

America's Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America by Jim Wallis

White Lies: Race and the Myths of Whiteness by Maurice Berger

Race: The Power of Illusion, Episode 2, The Story We Tell. PBS Documentary

Scene on Radio Podcast "Seeing White" Series

"Guidelines for being strong white allies" 2 ½ page guide by Paul Kivel.

"Developing Authentic Anti-Racist Leadership" Brief list from Howard Eagle

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The south had problems with poor whites not willing to fight for the confederacy. So they promoted the idea that they were Anglo Saxons, not Irish, German, etc. Later the social construct of whiteness was unfurled like a nazi flag. Poor whites were told, you are poor but at least you aint black. That started the ball rolling when whites of all stripe joined the Klan and started their victim cult. It started as a way around the class issue. Instead of going after the system, whites blamed blacks who would kill them or take their meager jobs after Slavery. So Jim Crow laws were inplimented and blak life was made illegal.

Sources: books, White Trash, Stamped from the Beginning, White Rage, Slavery by a Different Name, Racecraft...

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But isn’t this just about what many here have been saying about the fallacy of white supremacy? Unfortunately the most successful (ignorant) hoax ever sold. It’s all a mind trick.
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What is a mind trick? They have done studies where black babies are more familiar with black faces, white babies with white. Babies do notice people that look like them more.

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2freaky4church1 said:

What is a mind trick? They have done studies where black babies are more familiar with black faces, white babies with white. Babies do notice people that look like them more.


The brainwashing of whiteness and white supremacy ideology;a mind trick that became generational for the sake of power/control/racial and economic division.
[Edited 7/22/19 18:51pm]
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Reply #5 posted 07/23/19 6:35am

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[Stay on topic snip - luv4u]

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Reply #6 posted 07/23/19 9:13am

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*blank stare*
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Reply #7 posted 07/24/19 3:16pm

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2elijah said:

2freaky4church1 said:

What is a mind trick? They have done studies where black babies are more familiar with black faces, white babies with white. Babies do notice people that look like them more.

The brainwashing of whiteness and white supremacy ideology;a mind trick that became generational for the sake of power/control/racial and economic division. [Edited 7/22/19 18:51pm]

Yep, and it's used in religion big time.....it's ridiculous that people of color worship an image of God/Jesus that doesn't even look like them.

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The bottom line is this:

We were taught to esteem our white skin and white unityMore importantly, we were taught that white-skinned people are superior to black-skinned people.Why were we taught this? So that wealthy whites could count on poor whites to side with them against black-skinned people.

This strategy was an overwhelming success. The owners could now simply appeal to the higher status granted by whiteness to convince the white masses to join them in deriding, castigating and persecuting those inferior, bumbling, pathetic Blacks – successfully diverting the attention of the other whites from the injustices they suffered alongside the Black folks.

Thus, the racial divide was intentionally fostered and enshrined.

That faux scientific evidence is rarely touted now, but the strategy of "Divide and Conquer" has prevailed. The infamous Southern Strategy, which turned the democratic South solid red, was articulated by Nixon campaign strategist Lee Atwater in 1968 (The Nation, Nov. 2012).Republican politicians of that era began to speak in a kind of racial code, designed to turn white working-class voters against government programs, the very kind of government programs that these workers themselves had benefited from for years, because those "Negroes" were taking advantage of them!

To be clear, this Southern Strategy was as effective in the North as it was in the South. It continues with today's dog-whistle politics, but it also continues in many progressive/liberal minds in a more subtle and no-less toxic form: "helping." Please consider the possibility that your good works may be tainted: tutoring, mentoring, making contributions, hiring minorities, serving on not-for-profit Boards, etc.. I've found that my compassion contains at least some traces of condescension, which is white superiority, which is white supremacy.

From your Bolded part... You ever notice at a lot Trump rallies out in the audience it looks like a bunch of working class or middle class to low class Whites and not Degreed and/or Rich Whites....hhhhmmmm smile sad confused smile razz

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uPtoWnNY said:

2elijah said:

2freaky4church1 said: The brainwashing of whiteness and white supremacy ideology;a mind trick that became generational for the sake of power/control/racial and economic division. [Edited 7/22/19 18:51pm]

Yep, and it's used in religion big time.....it's ridiculous that people of color worship an image of God/Jesus that doesn't even look like them.

I think today they don't think Jesus looks like he came from England. God doesn't look like any human ethnicity.


Interesting that if the 'god' is female and the man worships and image that doesn't look like him or the god is male and the female doesn't look like her etc but that is a different topic

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Jesus was brown.

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OldFriends4Sale said:



uPtoWnNY said:




2elijah said:


2freaky4church1 said: The brainwashing of whiteness and white supremacy ideology;a mind trick that became generational for the sake of power/control/racial and economic division. [Edited 7/22/19 18:51pm]


Yep, and it's used in religion big time.....it's ridiculous that people of color worship an image of God/Jesus that doesn't even look like them.




I think today they don't think Jesus looks like he came from England. God doesn't look like any human ethnicity.


Interesting that if the 'god' is female and the man worships and image that doesn't look like him or the god is male and the female doesn't look like her etc but that is a different topic


A lot still do, and that’s because it’s been a generational brainwashed belief.
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Reply #12 posted 07/25/19 9:20am

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2freaky4church1 said:

What is a mind trick? They have done studies where black babies are more familiar with black faces, white babies with white. Babies do notice people that look like them more.


You can find a study for anything. Like that smoking tobacco isn't harmful.

So, what happens with interracial babies? Their heads explode?

[Edited 7/25/19 11:54am]

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2elijah said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think today they don't think Jesus looks like he came from England. God doesn't look like any human ethnicity.


Interesting that if the 'god' is female and the man worships and image that doesn't look like him or the god is male and the female doesn't look like her etc but that is a different topic

A lot still do, and that’s because it’s been a generational brainwashed belief.

Or they don't really care

the idea of race vs 'ethnicity' has massed up a lot of what we 'see' in many different ways.

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Reply #14 posted 07/25/19 3:40pm

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2elijah said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think today they don't think Jesus looks like he came from England. God doesn't look like any human ethnicity.


Interesting that if the 'god' is female and the man worships and image that doesn't look like him or the god is male and the female doesn't look like her etc but that is a different topic

A lot still do, and that’s because it’s been a generational brainwashed belief.

Yep, I've seen it in my family. Some of them don't even realize how ridiculous it is.

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If the tables were turned........u would see mass suicides by the 1,000's.

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