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Improper Entry of immigrants and Trump Trump has tweeted that next week ICE will begin to deport millions of illegal immigrants. This will not go well, and communities and the economy will be hurt by this. Next week ICE will begin the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens who have illicitly found their way into the United States. They will be removed as fast as they come in. Mexico, using their strong immigration laws, is doing a very good job of stopping people.......
....long before they get to our Southern Border. Guatemala is getting ready to sign a Safe-Third Agreement. The only ones who won’t do anything are the Democrats in Congress. They must vote to get rid of the loopholes, and fix asylum! If so, Border Crisis will end quickly!
In 2017 research conducted by the Cornell Farmworker Program, 30 New York dairy farmers told us they turned to undocumented workers because they were unable to find and keep reliable U.S. citizens to do the jobs. That's in part because farm work can be physically demanding, dirty and socially denigrated work. More importantly, it is one the most dangerous occupations in the U.S. A study commissioned by the dairy industry suggested that if federal labor and immigration policies reduced the number of foreign-born workers by 50 percent, more than 3,500 dairy farms would close, leading to a big drop in milk production and a spike in prices of about 30 percent. Total elimination of immigrant labor would increase milk prices by 90 percent.
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Here are some overarching NAS conclusions: · “Importantly, immigration is integral to the nation’s economic growth. Immigration supplies workers who have helped the United States to avoid the problems facing stagnant economies created by unfavorable demographics—in particular, an aging (and, in the case of Japan, a shrinking) workforce.” · “If the American economy grows and requires more workers both to replace those who retire and to create new firms and industries, the primary source of labor will be first and second-generational immigrants. This basic fact will hold at all levels, from low-skilled service jobs to professionals with postgraduate degrees.” It’s also worth noting another substantial benefit Americans have been getting from undocumented immigrants: the substantial cash that the undocumented pay into Social Security—and will not get back. Here’s a link to a Bipartisan Policy Center ... explainer with multiple links to source material, including data straight from the Internal Revenue Service.
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Well, his campaign took off when he infamously called immigrants murders and rapists. A demographic heard the dog whistle and mobilized for him. It only makes sense he will dig back into what has worked for him, especially with polls growing less and less optimistic about his re-election. Expect for him to get more desperate and his behavior even more erratic than usual. | |
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Yep. I cant wait for that disgusting piece of trash vomit to be behind bars for the rest of his disgusting life. "If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so." | |
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The service industry percentage is probably higher than that graph. Back of House employees in restaurants are illegals for the most part, including skilled line cooks. Anthony Bourdain pointed this out many years ago. politics: the art or science of government. | |
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poppys said: The service industry percentage is probably higher than that graph. Back of House employees in restaurants are illegals for the most part, including skilled line cooks. Anthony Bourdain pointed this out many years ago. Yep, it’s just a show of racism for the glee of his supporters. | |
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poppys said: The service industry percentage is probably higher than that graph. Back of House employees in restaurants are illegals for the most part, including skilled line cooks. Anthony Bourdain pointed this out many years ago. Very little or close to zero. His target is mainly illegal, Latino immigrants and other immigrants of color. He would never start a complaint war specifically against white, illegal immigrants because they are not his targets or the ones he despises. | |
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2elijah said: poppys said: The service industry percentage is probably higher than that graph. Back of House employees in restaurants are illegals for the most part, including skilled line cooks. Anthony Bourdain pointed this out many years ago. Very little or close to zero. His target is mainly illegal, Latino immigrants and other immigrants of color. He would never start a complaint war specifically against white, illegal immigrants because they are not his targets or the ones he despises. Exactly. His wives and in-laws surely got special treatment/consideration let’s not kid ourselves. Legal or not. And we are talking about natives to this continent who have lives here all their lives and ancestors were wipe out via diseases and violence “legally” | |
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Ugot2shakesumthin said: 2elijah said: Very little or close to zero. His target is mainly illegal, Latino immigrants and other immigrants of color. He would never start a complaint war specifically against white, illegal immigrants because they are not his targets or the ones he despises. Exactly. His wives and in-laws surely got special treatment/consideration let’s not kid ourselves. Legal or not. And we are talking about natives to this continent who have lives here all their lives and ancestors were wipe out via diseases and violence “legally” Please say that.....again. ![]() Trump has intentional, historic amnesia. [Edited 6/18/19 13:43pm] | |
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40% of undocumented immigrants come here by plane. There were plenty of Irish ad UK illegals in NY when I lived there. I knew quite a few from work. Also in the USVI. There are lots of undocumented Asians in NY too. politics: the art or science of government. | |
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Illegal immigrants are illegal, They should not be given special rights to circumvent the law. Americans are held to the law so anyone coming here should be held to the law. Its that sipe. Illegal immigrants labot surpress wages for real Americans. They do take jobsd that Americans - specificallt African Ameicans - rely on. They flood public schools with the unvaccinated children who dont speak English. They overcorwd working class neighborhoods - again, mostly black communties - with mutliple families in a single family home. Many times they get governemtn funds intended to help AMericans buy homes. They do get welfare, food stamps, and helathcare - often in greater amounts than needy Americans. They do get money for education and in-state tuition they Americans from out of state cannot get. That is just some of the truth and the media is doing Americans a true disservice through liberal bias and fake news. | |
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Since many of the immigrants coming up from our southern neighborr are here seeking asylum or as refugees from their nations, I thought it would be interesting to look at the number of refugee seekers to the US to see where the largest population is coming from. Y'all agree it's the southern hispanic nation, correct? Asylum seekerAn asylum seeker is an individual who is seeking international protection. In countries with individualised procedures, an asylum seeker is someone whose claim has not yet been finally decided on by the country in which he or she has submitted it. Not every asylum seeker will ultimately be recognised as a refugee, but every refugee is initially an asylum seeker. RefugeeA refugee is a person who has fled their country of origin and is unable or unwilling to return because of a well-founded fear of being persecuted because of their race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion. Main Source Countries/Regions of Immigrant PopulationAs of 2015, South or East Asia was the single largest source region (26.9 percent) followed by Mexico (26.8 percent). Other regions accounting for significant shares were Europe and Canada (13.5 percent), the Caribbean (9.6 percent), Central America (7.9 percent), South America (6.7 percent), the Middle East (4 percent) and sub-Saharan Africa (3.9 percent).
Source: Migration Policy Institute
Source: Migration Policy Institute
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"Undocumented immigrants are incredible contributors to our economy and are not eligible for public benefits that people think they come here for," Wiehe said (deputy director at the nonpartisan Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP). An estimated half of the nation's undocumented immigrants are believed to be working under fake Social Security numbers, which means they are paying taxes and into Social Security. The ITEP estimates that state and ...ion a year from undocumented immigrants. Wiehe added that undocumented immigrants are also not eligible for the federal earned income tax credit, so they're taxed at higher rates than similar low-income Americans. Meanwhile, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for Social Security and the vast majority of taxpayer-funded welfare programs like food stamps and cash assistance, according to Capps, the expert with the Migration Policy Institute. There are some notable exceptions: many receive medical care through emergency rooms and some undocumented immigrants are able to receive taxpayer-funded benefits through the Woman, Infants, and Children program, which helps provide food and formula for low-income pregnant and breastfeeding mothers and young children. The biggest costs to taxpayers, experts told NBC News, come from public education, which all students are eligible to receive regardless of immigration status. Researchers and advocates are split on whether it's fair to view the education and welfare of U.S. citizen children born to undocumented immigrants as part of the costs of undocumented immigrants, but most say it's worth considering at least. Rector said it was a big factor in his estimate. "Public education is where the real big cost comes in," Capps said. "The amount of taxes that the parents pay on their earnings, that they pay through property taxes — passed through on their rent — it's not going to be as much as is spent on public education for their kids and food stamps for their kids." Still, Capps added, second generation immigrants — the U.S.-born children of undocumented immigrants — often go on to do far better than their parents and can boost the American economy. "They'll be paying it back over the long run, some of that cost — particularly like public schooling — pays for itself," Capps said. "Some people will just focus on how much more unauthorized immigrants cost than they're paying, but it ignores the broader economic picture." Kallick said the debate over costs was not relevant to the necessary fiscal conversations the country is having, particularly in a country with citizens that operates on a net negative — running on a deficit. "Fundamentally I think it’s the wrong question. The right question for undocumented immigrants and any group is, 'Are they paying their fair share of taxes and getting their fair share of service?'" Kallick said. "You’re talking about people who work for very low wages and are excluded from nearly all social services. It takes a real act of will to say they're exploiting us." CORRECTION (Dec. 22, 2018, 1:15 p.m. ET): A earlier version of this article misstated the name of the organization where David Dyssegaard Kallick works. It is the Fiscal Policy Institute, not the Fiscal Policy Center.
"Is it true that immigrants take jobs away from Americans BACKGROUND One of the most well-entrenched myths about immigrants is that they steal jobs from American workers, collect an excess of government benefits and in general represent a drain on the economy. According to an August 1993 Field Poll of Californians, 39 percent of respondents agreed that illegal immigrants are "taking jobs away from Californians." But these are all myths that must be refuted to create a more hospitable environment for immigrants' rights. IN BRIEF Contrary to popular belief, immigrants do not take away jobs from American workers. Instead, they create new jobs by forming new businesses, spending their incomes on American goods and services, paying taxes and raising the productivity of U.S. businesses. Immigrants are good for the economy, not the other way around.
(I guess that debunks that claim.) The vast majority of Central Americans are vaccinated against all these diseases. Governments concerned about health, and good parents investing in their kids, have made Central American kids better-vaccinated than Texan kids. We fear them not because they are actually sick, but because of powerful anti-immigration narratives that link foreigners to disease. Consider, for example, Guatemala. According to the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF), Guatemalan kids are more likely than Texans to be immunized for most infectious diseases. Guatemala has universal health care. Vaccines are 100 percent funded by the government. By comparison, one in six kids in Texas is uninsured, and even insured families often must pay for vaccination. That means that many Texas kids fall behind on vaccinations, or miss them altogether when their family can’t afford a doctor’s visit. Other families refuse vaccination. UNICEF reports that 93 percent of kids in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are vaccinated against measles. That’s better than American kids (92 percent). Furthermore, it’s absurd to claim that the U.S. has eradicated measles while Central America has not. In fact, measles outbreaks have resurged in some American cities. By contrast, according to the World Health Organization, neither Guatemala nor Honduras has had a reported case of measles since 1990.
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Mexican immigration officials block asylum seekers from approaching U.S. border posts.Even when asylum seekers try to approach U.S. ports of entry, Mexican officers turn some away by physically blocking their access. Observers documented Mexican officers blocking asylum seekers’ access to ports of entry on the Hidalgo-Reynosa bridge, at the San Ysidro port of entry, and forcibly removing them from the Brownsville-Matamoros bridge. Reports indicate that these actions have been taken at the request of CBP officers. This practice places Mexican asylum seekers at particular risk, as their persecutors operate in the country that they are physically prevented from fleeing. Customs and Border Protection officers “turn back” asylum seekers at ports of entry.CBP officers turn back asylum seekers by outright refusal or by telling them to come back another day. In 2017, Human Rights First and other organizations documentednumerous examples of illegal turn-backs at multiple crossing points, including the California-Mexico San Ysidro port of entry and Texas-Mexico ports of entry (Hidalgo-Reynosa, Brownsville-Matamoros, Roma-Ciudad Miguel Aleman, Progreso-Nuevo Progreso, Laredo, Paso del Norte, and Stanton Street). The Washington Office on Latin America (WOLA) similarly documents turn backs by U.S. officials on the Mexico side of the Arizona Nogales port of entry, and the Texas ACLU’s Border Rights Center reportsthat CBP officers turn away asylum seekers throughout Texas. Processing slow-downs increase dangers and crossings between ports.CBP officials have restricted the number of asylum seekers processed at ports of entry daily, forcing asylum seekers to wait for extended periods in dangerous and difficult conditions or to cross the border between ports. Border officials claim they restrict the numbers of asylum seekers processed because of capacity issues, but reports show that CBP processing rooms are not full and that there is an orchestrated effort to reduce asylum processing. This month WOLA reported that CBP has “notably slowed” its processing of asylum seekers at ports of entry. Each month since June, CBP has processed only four thousand individuals at ports of entry, down from six thousand in prior months. These slow-downs create bottlenecks and long waits in Mexico. At San Luis, Nogales, and Calexico, CBP officers let in one to three families per day while asylum seekers wait three to six weeks for processing through the port of entry. In Ciudad Juarez, San Luis, and Nogales, parents and children have been forced to sleep on the concrete sidewalks outside the ports of entry for weeks. Access to medical care is nonexistent, and families struggle to find places where they can bathe or even use a restroom. Even those who can find shelter often go hungry and become sick due to poor conditions, with children facing particular risks of illness. In September 2018, the Office of Inspector General for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) stated that limiting the number of people allowed to seek asylum at ports of entry leads some “who would otherwise seek legal entry into the United States to cross the border illegally.” Dangers in Mexico and along the borders.Some asylum seekers face acute risks in Mexico, including murder, shootings, rape, kidnappings, and human trafficking. In Reynosa, Mexico, adjacent to the Hidalgo port of entry in Texas, there is “continuous shooting throughout the city,” as cartel groups, gangs, and the Mexican military engage in violent clashes. The former target asylum seekers for kidnapping and ransom. Between 2011 and 2018, over one thousand migrants were kidnapped in Tamaulipas, Mexico—the state where Reynosa is located. Ciudad Juarez, which borders El Paso, is also notoriously dangerous due to violence and conflict between the cartels. Many asylum seekers face grave risks in these dangerous border towns, and some cross between ports of entry due to these dangers, particularly as great distances separate some ports of entry. Lack of information, misinformation, and avoiding dangers.Many people fleeing violence and persecution lack accurate information about how to seek refuge in the United States and may only hear rumors and misinformation from smugglers and other migrants they encounter along their route. One asylum seeker explained to Human Rights First that he thought his only option for entering the United States was to cross between ports of entry because other migrants told him that authorities from both governments would turn him away. In August 2018, the Texas Tribune interviewed more than a dozen asylum seekers who crossed the Rio Grande and turned themselves into CBP seeking refuge. Of this group, only two heard that asylum seekers could request protection at official crossing points. Due to difficulties and dangers traveling through Central America and Mexico, some asylum seekers turn to smugglers. With the deadly cartels controlling areas around many ports of entry, smugglers transport asylum seekers to remote locations and direct them to cross, as WOLA reports. Asylum seekers should not be refused protection because of the many hurdles placed in their path to safety. In fact, U.S. law and international treaty commitments guarantee refugees an avenue to seek asylum regardless of how they entered the country. Fact: Under current law, immigrants are allowed to make a claim for asylum anywhere in the U.S., no matter how they entered. And the Trump administration would be in violation of international asylum law as well if Trump blocks asylum seekers who have crossed between ports of entry, said Scott Anderson, a David M. Rubenstein fellow in governance studies at The Brookings Institution. "U.S. treaty obligations require the United States to extend asylum to individuals who qualify as refugees if they are found in the United States or at any U.S. border, regardless of whether they arrived there legally or not," said Anderson. "The same treaties also prohibit the United States from expelling qualified individuals or returning them to their country of origin absent certain extraordinary circumstances."
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Can you provide viable sources for this so-called truth? "Families are torn apart, men women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find their parents have gone missing." - Anne Frank | |
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America1st are you an alter account? Just asking... | |
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"Families are torn apart, men women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find their parents have gone missing." - Anne Frank | |
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DiminutiveRocker said:
I mean it’s a provocative singularly Pro-Turd user name for a Prince music fan site. ![]() [Edited 6/18/19 17:24pm] | |
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AMERICA1ST said: Illegal immigrants are illegal, They should not be given special rights to circumvent the law. Americans are held to the law so anyone coming here should be held to the law. Its that sipe. Illegal immigrants labot surpress wages for real Americans. They do take jobsd that Americans - specificallt African Ameicans - rely on. They flood public schools with the unvaccinated children who dont speak English. They overcorwd working class neighborhoods - again, mostly black communties - with mutliple families in a single family home. Many times they get governemtn funds intended to help AMericans buy homes. They do get welfare, food stamps, and helathcare - often in greater amounts than needy Americans. They do get money for education and in-state tuition they Americans from out of state cannot get. That is just some of the truth and the media is doing Americans a true disservice through liberal bias and fake news. Exactly, what jobs are illegal immigrants taking that African Americans rely on? So you think all African-Americans rely on a specific, line of work? I find your generalization laughable. Secondly, if employers wanted to hire African Americans for whatever jobs you think AA’s rely on, don't you think those employers would hire them? You’re not making any sense. [Edited 6/18/19 17:25pm] | |
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This article has a lot of good info. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/06/us/politics/undocumented-illegal-immigrants.html In each year from 2007 to 2014, more people joined the ranks of the illegal by remaining in the United States after their temporary visitor permits expired than by creeping across the Mexican border, according to a report by researchers at ...on Studies https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/08/jorge-ramos/ramos-40-undocumented-immigrants-come-air/ The key research on "overstays" -- the working term for this group of unauthorized immigrants Ramos had in mind -- was undertaken in 1997 by the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service. The INS estimated that overstays accounted for 41 percent of the undocumented. politics: the art or science of government. | |
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/17/nyregion/undocumented-immigrants-drivers-licenses-ny.html Driver’s Licenses for the Undocumented Are Approved in Win for Progressives
The vote in the New York Legislature came after the issue had splintered Democrats, with suburban moderates objecting. politics: the art or science of government. | |
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"Families are torn apart, men women and children are separated. Children come home from school to find their parents have gone missing." - Anne Frank | |
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DiminutiveRocker said:
Oh I think we are all thinking the same things. ![]() | |
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This whole fucked up criminal administration is not held to the law, so that blows your whole argument. Back to the drawing board. "If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so." | |
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THE MEDIA IS THE ENEMY. THE MEDIA IS THE ENEMY. "If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so." | |
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