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Reply #150 posted 04/22/19 7:54am

RodeoSchro

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2freaky4church1 said:

Why do you like this insane man?




Trump supporters put tax cuts ahead of the Ten Commandments.

Screwed up priorities, huh?

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Reply #151 posted 04/22/19 8:08am

SuperFurryAnim
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2freaky4church1 said:

Why do you like this insane man?

50 year record numbers on economy, job and stocks. Go back and tell the Bern.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #152 posted 04/22/19 8:11am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:



2freaky4church1 said:


Why do you like this insane man?




50 year record numbers on economy, job and stocks. Go back and tell the Bern.



Again? Is that all you got?
Thank Obama then, not a one else. And then once his tax cuts and tariffs start really hurting the economy, you can then start putting the credit where due.
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Reply #153 posted 04/22/19 8:11am

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RodeoSchro said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Why do you like this insane man?




Trump supporters put tax cuts ahead of the Ten Commandments.

Screwed up priorities, huh?

Luke 2:12-13 — "Some tax collectors came to be baptized, and they asked him, 'Teacher, what are we to do?' Don't collect more than is legal, he told them." And in Romans 13:6-7, St. Paul writes, "That is also why you pay taxes, because the authorities are working for God when they fulfill their duties. Pay, then, what you owe them; pay your personal and property taxes, and show respect and honor for them all."

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #154 posted 04/22/19 8:12am

poppys

RodeoSchro said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Why do you like this insane man?




Trump supporters put tax cuts ahead of the Ten Commandments.

Screwed up priorities, huh?


Don McGhan (White House Counsel thru Oct 17, 2018 including the campaign), said Trump asked him to do crazy shit.

Also the White House did not cooperate with the written questions. Some form of I do not recall was given as an answer 37 times.

politics: the art or science of government.
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Reply #155 posted 04/22/19 8:15am

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

50 year record numbers on economy, job and stocks. Go back and tell the Bern.

Again? Is that all you got? Thank Obama then, not a one else. And then once his tax cuts and tariffs start really hurting the economy, you can then start putting the credit where due.

The DOW was 19,732 when Obama left office. It is now 26,512

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #156 posted 04/22/19 8:29am

RodeoSchro

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

SuperFurryAnimal said: Again? Is that all you got? Thank Obama then, not a one else. And then once his tax cuts and tariffs start really hurting the economy, you can then start putting the credit where due.

The DOW was 19,732 when Obama left office. It is now 26,512



DJIA January 20, 2009 = 7,550.29
DJIA January 19, 2017 = 19,742.58

Total percentage increase under Barack Obama = 161.48%

DJIA January 19, 2017 (Trump's beginning number) = 19,742.58
DJIA if Trump were to match Obama's 161.48% increase = 31,880.53

BUT...BUT...BUT OBAMA CRASHED THE MARKET!!!1!!11!!

It's true - the market went down substantially after Obama took office. There were two main reasons: (1) no one knew how bad the financial crisis was; and (2) racist white Republicans who control the stock market weren't going to place their faith in a black man.

So, the DJIA bottomed out at 6,469.95 on March 6, 2009. But then traders realized that the black man did know what he was doing; in fact, he was correcting the mistakes made by his predecessor. The white men of Wall Street rallied behind the black man in the Oval Office and the stock market began its greatest bull run in history - a bull run inherited by serial adulterer Donald J. Trump.

If you really want to make Barack Obama look good, let's take the screechings of SuperFurryAnimal at face value, blame Obama for the early 2009 market slide, and use THAT number for comparison purposes:


DJIA March 6, 2009 = 6,469.95
DJIA January 19, 2017 = 19,742.58

Total percentage increase under low point of Barack Obama's presidency = 205.14%

DJIA level needed to reach by serial adulterer Donald J. Trump to match Obama's performance = 40,500.46.

Let me know when we reach either of the two DJIA closings listed above. And more importantly, let me know what the DJIA closes at the last day of serial adulterer Donald J. Trump's presidential time in office. Then we can actually compare oranges to orange-colored people.

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Reply #157 posted 04/22/19 8:54am

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RodeoSchro said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

The DOW was 19,732 when Obama left office. It is now 26,512



DJIA January 20, 2009 = 7,550.29
DJIA January 19, 2017 = 19,742.58

From all time lows and weakening dollar! You also tend to forget that the DOW is global. How did the US economy do jack? OHHHH SHIT!

--

Final Tally: Obama's Subpar Economy Cost Americans $2.4 Trillion

https://www.investors.com...-trillion/

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Reply #158 posted 04/22/19 8:56am

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HEY RODEO. AMERICA FIRST!

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #159 posted 04/22/19 9:00am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

HEY RODEO. AMERICA FIRST!



Hey, you're becoming a Democrat!

See, it's like this:

Imagine the jersey worn by our Olympic basketball team. On the front it says "USA". On the back it says the name of the player.

Democrats play for the name on the front of the jersey.

Republicans play for the name on the back.



.


[Edited 4/22/19 9:01am]

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Reply #160 posted 04/22/19 9:39am

Musicslave

poppys said:

RodeoSchro said:




Trump supporters put tax cuts ahead of the Ten Commandments.

Screwed up priorities, huh?


Don McGhan (White House Counsel thru Oct 17, 2018 including the campaign), said Trump asked him to do crazy shit.

Also the White House did not cooperate with the written questions. Some form of I do not recall was given as an answer 37 times.

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We now know who trump should thank for still being in office. Don McGahn saved trump presidency thus far. We'll see if he can make it to 2020 without him. lol

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However, they say Emmet Flood is good too though. We'll see...

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Reply #161 posted 04/22/19 10:02am

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He seems to be hiding something, if he’s going that far to not release his taxes and other documents. This m lawsuit is just in retaliation of the Mueller report. The Dems are weighing whether they should start impeachment proceedings, well he’s not hesitating to sue them, so they should impeach him if there is evidence for impeachment.


https://www.google.com/am...index.html


Trump, sons sue to block House Democrats from obtaining his financial records


By Jeremy Herb and Lauren Fox, CNN
Updated 12:44 PM EDT, Mon April 22, 2019




“President Donald Trump is going to court to try to block a Democratically-controlled congressional committee from obtaining his financial records through a subpoena.

The lawsuit is the first case where Trump has sued to try to stymie House Democrats' investigations into the President. But the court filing is only the first skirmish in what's likely to be a multi-front war between House Democrats and Trump, the White House and the President's businesses.

Trump and the Trump Organization filed suit Monday to stop the House Oversight Committee -- chaired by Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Maryland -- from obtaining financial records from Mazars, an accounting firm that Trump used to prepare financial statements. The committee subpoenaed for 10 years' worth of Trump's financial records after the firm requested a so-called "friendly subpoena."
[Edited 4/22/19 10:05am]
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Reply #162 posted 04/22/19 10:24am

SuperFurryAnim
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RodeoSchro said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

HEY RODEO. AMERICA FIRST!



Hey, you're becoming a Democrat!

See, it's like this:

Imagine the jersey worn by our Olympic basketball team. On the front it says "USA". On the back it says the name of the player.

Democrats play for the name on the front of the jersey.

Republicans play for the name on the back.



.


[Edited 4/22/19 9:01am]

I hope all are elected officials believe in America First. Some officials and people here at the org are Chicoms, hardcore socialists and/or communists and dead against America First.

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #163 posted 04/22/19 10:28am

Musicslave

Not sure if this summary of potential obstruction charges have been listed yet:

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https://www.apnews.com/e0...3d9f1dffd8

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The 10 instances of possible obstruction in Mueller report

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1. PRESSURE ON COMEY TO END PROBE OF MICHAEL FLYNN

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This includes the president’s statement to then-FBI Director James Comey regarding the investigation of then-national security adviser Michael Flynn. Trump told Comey: “I hope you can see your way to letting this go.”

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2. PRESIDENT’S REACTION TO THE CONTINUING RUSSIA INVESTIGATION

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Among the evidence is the president telling then-White House counsel Don McGahn to stop Attorney General Jeff Sessions from recusing himself from the Russia investigation and Trump’s subsequent anger at Sessions. Trump also contacted Comey and other intelligence agency leaders to ask them to push back publicly on the suggestion that Trump had any connection to the Russian election-interference effort.

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3. FIRING OF COMEY AND AFTERMATH

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Mueller’s report says “substantial evidence” indicates Trump’s decision to fire Comey in May 2017 was the result of the FBI director’s unwillingness to say publicly that Trump was not personally under investigation. On the day after Trump fired Comey, the president told Russian officials that he had “faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

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4. APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL AND EFFORTS TO REMOVE HIM

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Trump reacted to news of Mueller’s appointment by telling advisers that it was “the end of his presidency.” The president told aides that Mueller had conflicts of interest and should have to step aside. His aides told Trump the asserted conflicts were meritless. Following media reports that Mueller’s team was investigating whether the president had obstructed justice, Trump called then-White House counsel Don McGahn at home and directed him to have Mueller removed. McGahn refused.

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5. FURTHER EFFORTS TO CURTAIL THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’s INVESTIGATION

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Trump instructed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to have Sessions publicly announce that the investigation was “very unfair” to the president, the president had done nothing wrong, and Sessions planned to meet with Mueller to limit him to “investigating election meddling for future elections.”

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6. EFFORTS TO PREVENT PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF EVIDENCE

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In summer of 2017, Trump Tower Fallout: The president directed aides not to publicly disclose the emails setting up the meeting. Before the emails became public, the president also edited a press statement for Donald Trump Jr. by deleting a line that acknowledged that the meeting was “with an individual who (Trump Jr.) was told might have information helpful to the campaign.”

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7. ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO HAVE SESSIONS TAKE CONTROL OF INVESTIGATION

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Trump tried to get Sessions to declare that he was no longer recused from the Russia investigation and would assert control over it. The report says there’s evidence that one purpose of asking Sessions to step in was so that the attorney general would restrict the investigation’s scope.

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8. TRUMP ORDERS WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL TO DENY THAT PRESIDENT TRIED TO FIRE MUELLER

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Trump told McGahn to “correct” a New York Times story that reported Trump had earlier instructed McGahn to fire Mueller. Trump also asked why McGahn had told Mueller’s investigators about the directive to remove Mueller. McGahn told Trump he had to tell the investigators the truth.

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9. TRUMP’S ACTIONS TOWARD, FLYNN, MANAFORT AND OTHER POSSIBLE WITNESSES

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When Flynn began cooperating with prosecutors, Trump passed word through his lawyer that he still had warm feeling for Flynn and asked for a “heads up” if Flynn knew of information implicating Trump. Trump praised Manafort during and after his criminal convictions, and refused to rule out a pardon for his former campaign chairman.

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10. TRUMP ACTIONS TOWARD MICHAEL COHEN

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Mueller noted that Trump’s conduct toward Cohen, a former Trump Organization executive, changed from praise to castigation after Cohen began cooperating with prosecutors. The evidence could “support an inference that the president used inducements in the form of positive messages in an effort to get Cohen not to cooperate, and then turned to attacks and intimidation to deter” cooperation and undermine Cohen’s credibility, Mueller wrote.

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Reply #164 posted 04/22/19 10:36am

Ugot2shakesumt
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SuperFurryAnimal said:



RodeoSchro said:




SuperFurryAnimal said:




The DOW was 19,732 when Obama left office. It is now 26,512





DJIA January 20, 2009 = 7,550.29
DJIA January 19, 2017 = 19,742.58




From all time lows and weakening dollar! You also tend to forget that the DOW is global. How did the US economy do jack? OHHHH SHIT!


--


Final Tally: Obama's Subpar Economy Cost Americans $2.4 Trillion



https://www.investors.com...-trillion/



How is that?? lol
He inherited the Bush disaster with EVERYTHING in the dump! He took a country in the verge of failure and gave Trump the economy he has now. Trump inherited Obama’s booming economy and he hopefully won’t fuck it all up like Bush did to Clinton’s economy.
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Reply #165 posted 04/22/19 10:48am

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

RodeoSchro said:



Hey, you're becoming a Democrat!

See, it's like this:

Imagine the jersey worn by our Olympic basketball team. On the front it says "USA". On the back it says the name of the player.

Democrats play for the name on the front of the jersey.

Republicans play for the name on the back.



.


[Edited 4/22/19 9:01am]

I hope all are elected officials believe in America First. Some officials and people here at the org are Chicoms, hardcore socialists and/or communists and dead against America First.



If "Chicom" is a new word for "Republican" then I think you're on to something.

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Reply #166 posted 04/22/19 12:20pm

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Listen to Glenn Greenwald. This report is a bunch of horse pucky.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #167 posted 04/22/19 1:07pm

Ugot2shakesumt
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2freaky4church1 said:

Listen to Glenn Greenwald. This report is a bunch of horse pucky.



He’s the last person we want to hear from. He’s been defending Wikileaks from the beginning
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Reply #168 posted 04/22/19 2:28pm

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Musicslave said:

Not sure if this summary of potential obstruction charges have been listed yet:

-

https://www.apnews.com/e0...3d9f1dffd8

-

-

The 10 instances of possible obstruction in Mueller report

-

1. PRESSURE ON COMEY TO END PROBE OF MICHAEL FLYNN

-

This includes the president’s statement to then-FBI Director James Comey regarding the investigation of then-national security adviser Michael Flynn. Trump told Comey: “I hope you can see your way to letting this go.”

-

2. PRESIDENT’S REACTION TO THE CONTINUING RUSSIA INVESTIGATION

-

Among the evidence is the president telling then-White House counsel Don McGahn to stop Attorney General Jeff Sessions from recusing himself from the Russia investigation and Trump’s subsequent anger at Sessions. Trump also contacted Comey and other intelligence agency leaders to ask them to push back publicly on the suggestion that Trump had any connection to the Russian election-interference effort.

-

3. FIRING OF COMEY AND AFTERMATH

-

Mueller’s report says “substantial evidence” indicates Trump’s decision to fire Comey in May 2017 was the result of the FBI director’s unwillingness to say publicly that Trump was not personally under investigation. On the day after Trump fired Comey, the president told Russian officials that he had “faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

-

4. APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL AND EFFORTS TO REMOVE HIM

-

Trump reacted to news of Mueller’s appointment by telling advisers that it was “the end of his presidency.” The president told aides that Mueller had conflicts of interest and should have to step aside. His aides told Trump the asserted conflicts were meritless. Following media reports that Mueller’s team was investigating whether the president had obstructed justice, Trump called then-White House counsel Don McGahn at home and directed him to have Mueller removed. McGahn refused.

-

5. FURTHER EFFORTS TO CURTAIL THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’s INVESTIGATION

-

Trump instructed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to have Sessions publicly announce that the investigation was “very unfair” to the president, the president had done nothing wrong, and Sessions planned to meet with Mueller to limit him to “investigating election meddling for future elections.”

-

6. EFFORTS TO PREVENT PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF EVIDENCE

-

In summer of 2017, Trump Tower Fallout: The president directed aides not to publicly disclose the emails setting up the meeting. Before the emails became public, the president also edited a press statement for Donald Trump Jr. by deleting a line that acknowledged that the meeting was “with an individual who (Trump Jr.) was told might have information helpful to the campaign.”

-

7. ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO HAVE SESSIONS TAKE CONTROL OF INVESTIGATION

-

Trump tried to get Sessions to declare that he was no longer recused from the Russia investigation and would assert control over it. The report says there’s evidence that one purpose of asking Sessions to step in was so that the attorney general would restrict the investigation’s scope.

-

8. TRUMP ORDERS WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL TO DENY THAT PRESIDENT TRIED TO FIRE MUELLER

-

Trump told McGahn to “correct” a New York Times story that reported Trump had earlier instructed McGahn to fire Mueller. Trump also asked why McGahn had told Mueller’s investigators about the directive to remove Mueller. McGahn told Trump he had to tell the investigators the truth.

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9. TRUMP’S ACTIONS TOWARD, FLYNN, MANAFORT AND OTHER POSSIBLE WITNESSES

-

When Flynn began cooperating with prosecutors, Trump passed word through his lawyer that he still had warm feeling for Flynn and asked for a “heads up” if Flynn knew of information implicating Trump. Trump praised Manafort during and after his criminal convictions, and refused to rule out a pardon for his former campaign chairman.

-

10. TRUMP ACTIONS TOWARD MICHAEL COHEN

-

Mueller noted that Trump’s conduct toward Cohen, a former Trump Organization executive, changed from praise to castigation after Cohen began cooperating with prosecutors. The evidence could “support an inference that the president used inducements in the form of positive messages in an effort to get Cohen not to cooperate, and then turned to attacks and intimidation to deter” cooperation and undermine Cohen’s credibility, Mueller wrote.



hmmm ...to be continued...

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Reply #169 posted 04/22/19 3:50pm

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What is wrong with Wikileaks? Gave us a lot of good info.

Assange is being shut up because of his journalism.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #170 posted 04/22/19 5:39pm

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Musicslave said:

Not sure if this summary of potential obstruction charges have been listed yet:

-

https://www.apnews.com/e0...3d9f1dffd8

-

-

The 10 instances of possible obstruction in Mueller report

-

1. PRESSURE ON COMEY TO END PROBE OF MICHAEL FLYNN

-

This includes the president’s statement to then-FBI Director James Comey regarding the investigation of then-national security adviser Michael Flynn. Trump told Comey: “I hope you can see your way to letting this go.”

-

2. PRESIDENT’S REACTION TO THE CONTINUING RUSSIA INVESTIGATION

-

Among the evidence is the president telling then-White House counsel Don McGahn to stop Attorney General Jeff Sessions from recusing himself from the Russia investigation and Trump’s subsequent anger at Sessions. Trump also contacted Comey and other intelligence agency leaders to ask them to push back publicly on the suggestion that Trump had any connection to the Russian election-interference effort.

-

3. FIRING OF COMEY AND AFTERMATH

-

Mueller’s report says “substantial evidence” indicates Trump’s decision to fire Comey in May 2017 was the result of the FBI director’s unwillingness to say publicly that Trump was not personally under investigation. On the day after Trump fired Comey, the president told Russian officials that he had “faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

-

4. APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL AND EFFORTS TO REMOVE HIM

-

Trump reacted to news of Mueller’s appointment by telling advisers that it was “the end of his presidency.” The president told aides that Mueller had conflicts of interest and should have to step aside. His aides told Trump the asserted conflicts were meritless. Following media reports that Mueller’s team was investigating whether the president had obstructed justice, Trump called then-White House counsel Don McGahn at home and directed him to have Mueller removed. McGahn refused.

-

5. FURTHER EFFORTS TO CURTAIL THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’s INVESTIGATION

-

Trump instructed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to have Sessions publicly announce that the investigation was “very unfair” to the president, the president had done nothing wrong, and Sessions planned to meet with Mueller to limit him to “investigating election meddling for future elections.”

-

6. EFFORTS TO PREVENT PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF EVIDENCE

-

In summer of 2017, Trump Tower Fallout: The president directed aides not to publicly disclose the emails setting up the meeting. Before the emails became public, the president also edited a press statement for Donald Trump Jr. by deleting a line that acknowledged that the meeting was “with an individual who (Trump Jr.) was told might have information helpful to the campaign.”

-

7. ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO HAVE SESSIONS TAKE CONTROL OF INVESTIGATION

-

Trump tried to get Sessions to declare that he was no longer recused from the Russia investigation and would assert control over it. The report says there’s evidence that one purpose of asking Sessions to step in was so that the attorney general would restrict the investigation’s scope.

-

8. TRUMP ORDERS WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL TO DENY THAT PRESIDENT TRIED TO FIRE MUELLER

-

Trump told McGahn to “correct” a New York Times story that reported Trump had earlier instructed McGahn to fire Mueller. Trump also asked why McGahn had told Mueller’s investigators about the directive to remove Mueller. McGahn told Trump he had to tell the investigators the truth.

-

9. TRUMP’S ACTIONS TOWARD, FLYNN, MANAFORT AND OTHER POSSIBLE WITNESSES

-

When Flynn began cooperating with prosecutors, Trump passed word through his lawyer that he still had warm feeling for Flynn and asked for a “heads up” if Flynn knew of information implicating Trump. Trump praised Manafort during and after his criminal convictions, and refused to rule out a pardon for his former campaign chairman.

-

10. TRUMP ACTIONS TOWARD MICHAEL COHEN

-

Mueller noted that Trump’s conduct toward Cohen, a former Trump Organization executive, changed from praise to castigation after Cohen began cooperating with prosecutors. The evidence could “support an inference that the president used inducements in the form of positive messages in an effort to get Cohen not to cooperate, and then turned to attacks and intimidation to deter” cooperation and undermine Cohen’s credibility, Mueller wrote.



Thanks for posting this MusicSlave!

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Reply #171 posted 04/22/19 5:42pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

What is wrong with Wikileaks? Gave us a lot of good info.

Assange is being shut up because of his journalism.


It's the hacking that bothers me. Hacking tends to be an illegal activity. And anyone that can hack into a governmental system to get items, can just as easily hack into a private individual's system and get bank information, steal your identity, etc. Revealing information that you are privvy to already, as in being an actual whistle blower, is one thing, and I can support that, but hacking into a system to steal information is a whole other ball game, one that I can't quite support.

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Reply #172 posted 04/22/19 5:45pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

What is wrong with Wikileaks? Gave us a lot of good info.

Assange is being shut up because of his journalism.

I still don't believe that he was acting as a journalist.

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Reply #173 posted 04/22/19 6:01pm

Brendan

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benni said:



Musicslave said:


Not sure if this summary of potential obstruction charges have been listed yet:


-


https://www.apnews.com/e0...3d9f1dffd8


-


-


The 10 instances of possible obstruction in Mueller report


-


1. PRESSURE ON COMEY TO END PROBE OF MICHAEL FLYNN


-


This includes the president’s statement to then-FBI Director James Comey regarding the investigation of then-national security adviser Michael Flynn. Trump told Comey: “I hope you can see your way to letting this go.”


-


2. PRESIDENT’S REACTION TO THE CONTINUING RUSSIA INVESTIGATION


-


Among the evidence is the president telling then-White House counsel Don McGahn to stop Attorney General Jeff Sessions from recusing himself from the Russia investigation and Trump’s subsequent anger at Sessions. Trump also contacted Comey and other intelligence agency leaders to ask them to push back publicly on the suggestion that Trump had any connection to the Russian election-interference effort.


-


3. FIRING OF COMEY AND AFTERMATH


-


Mueller’s report says “substantial evidence” indicates Trump’s decision to fire Comey in May 2017 was the result of the FBI director’s unwillingness to say publicly that Trump was not personally under investigation. On the day after Trump fired Comey, the president told Russian officials that he had “faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”


-


4. APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL AND EFFORTS TO REMOVE HIM


-


Trump reacted to news of Mueller’s appointment by telling advisers that it was “the end of his presidency.” The president told aides that Mueller had conflicts of interest and should have to step aside. His aides told Trump the asserted conflicts were meritless. Following media reports that Mueller’s team was investigating whether the president had obstructed justice, Trump called then-White House counsel Don McGahn at home and directed him to have Mueller removed. McGahn refused.


-


5. FURTHER EFFORTS TO CURTAIL THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’s INVESTIGATION


-


Trump instructed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to have Sessions publicly announce that the investigation was “very unfair” to the president, the president had done nothing wrong, and Sessions planned to meet with Mueller to limit him to “investigating election meddling for future elections.”


-


6. EFFORTS TO PREVENT PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF EVIDENCE


-


In summer of 2017, Trump Tower Fallout: The president directed aides not to publicly disclose the emails setting up the meeting. Before the emails became public, the president also edited a press statement for Donald Trump Jr. by deleting a line that acknowledged that the meeting was “with an individual who (Trump Jr.) was told might have information helpful to the campaign.”


-


7. ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO HAVE SESSIONS TAKE CONTROL OF INVESTIGATION


-


Trump tried to get Sessions to declare that he was no longer recused from the Russia investigation and would assert control over it. The report says there’s evidence that one purpose of asking Sessions to step in was so that the attorney general would restrict the investigation’s scope.


-


8. TRUMP ORDERS WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL TO DENY THAT PRESIDENT TRIED TO FIRE MUELLER


-


Trump told McGahn to “correct” a New York Times story that reported Trump had earlier instructed McGahn to fire Mueller. Trump also asked why McGahn had told Mueller’s investigators about the directive to remove Mueller. McGahn told Trump he had to tell the investigators the truth.


-


9. TRUMP’S ACTIONS TOWARD, FLYNN, MANAFORT AND OTHER POSSIBLE WITNESSES


-


When Flynn began cooperating with prosecutors, Trump passed word through his lawyer that he still had warm feeling for Flynn and asked for a “heads up” if Flynn knew of information implicating Trump. Trump praised Manafort during and after his criminal convictions, and refused to rule out a pardon for his former campaign chairman.


-


10. TRUMP ACTIONS TOWARD MICHAEL COHEN


-


Mueller noted that Trump’s conduct toward Cohen, a former Trump Organization executive, changed from praise to castigation after Cohen began cooperating with prosecutors. The evidence could “support an inference that the president used inducements in the form of positive messages in an effort to get Cohen not to cooperate, and then turned to attacks and intimidation to deter” cooperation and undermine Cohen’s credibility, Mueller wrote.





Thanks for posting this MusicSlave!



And thanks go out to all who contribute, in more formal offerings or more spontaneous debate. This feeds me, a somewhat non-political person, who tries to keep informed.
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Reply #174 posted 04/23/19 4:17am

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So Trump is back to his lowest approval rating of 39%. To me it’s scary that he has even that much support. I guess Trump was right, he could shoot someone in public and no matter what he does, his supporters will follow.


Poll: Trump approval sinks 5 points after Mueller report, tying all-time low
https://www.politico.com/...rt-1286386
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Reply #175 posted 04/23/19 4:21am

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benni said:

2freaky4church1 said:

What is wrong with Wikileaks? Gave us a lot of good info.

Assange is being shut up because of his journalism.


It's the hacking that bothers me. Hacking tends to be an illegal activity. And anyone that can hack into a governmental system to get items, can just as easily hack into a private individual's system and get bank information, steal your identity, etc. Revealing information that you are privvy to already, as in being an actual whistle blower, is one thing, and I can support that, but hacking into a system to steal information is a whole other ball game, one that I can't quite support.

nod that is my issue as well - how he gets/steals/hacks the info. Apparently he often doesn't redact it and personal info gets released collaterally - even Snowden was critical of this Assange tactic.

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Reply #176 posted 04/23/19 5:41am

Musicslave

DiminutiveRocker said:

Musicslave said:

Not sure if this summary of potential obstruction charges have been listed yet:

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https://www.apnews.com/e0...3d9f1dffd8

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The 10 instances of possible obstruction in Mueller report

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1. PRESSURE ON COMEY TO END PROBE OF MICHAEL FLYNN

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This includes the president’s statement to then-FBI Director James Comey regarding the investigation of then-national security adviser Michael Flynn. Trump told Comey: “I hope you can see your way to letting this go.”

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2. PRESIDENT’S REACTION TO THE CONTINUING RUSSIA INVESTIGATION

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Among the evidence is the president telling then-White House counsel Don McGahn to stop Attorney General Jeff Sessions from recusing himself from the Russia investigation and Trump’s subsequent anger at Sessions. Trump also contacted Comey and other intelligence agency leaders to ask them to push back publicly on the suggestion that Trump had any connection to the Russian election-interference effort.

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3. FIRING OF COMEY AND AFTERMATH

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Mueller’s report says “substantial evidence” indicates Trump’s decision to fire Comey in May 2017 was the result of the FBI director’s unwillingness to say publicly that Trump was not personally under investigation. On the day after Trump fired Comey, the president told Russian officials that he had “faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

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4. APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL AND EFFORTS TO REMOVE HIM

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Trump reacted to news of Mueller’s appointment by telling advisers that it was “the end of his presidency.” The president told aides that Mueller had conflicts of interest and should have to step aside. His aides told Trump the asserted conflicts were meritless. Following media reports that Mueller’s team was investigating whether the president had obstructed justice, Trump called then-White House counsel Don McGahn at home and directed him to have Mueller removed. McGahn refused.

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5. FURTHER EFFORTS TO CURTAIL THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’s INVESTIGATION

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Trump instructed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to have Sessions publicly announce that the investigation was “very unfair” to the president, the president had done nothing wrong, and Sessions planned to meet with Mueller to limit him to “investigating election meddling for future elections.”

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6. EFFORTS TO PREVENT PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF EVIDENCE

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In summer of 2017, Trump Tower Fallout: The president directed aides not to publicly disclose the emails setting up the meeting. Before the emails became public, the president also edited a press statement for Donald Trump Jr. by deleting a line that acknowledged that the meeting was “with an individual who (Trump Jr.) was told might have information helpful to the campaign.”

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7. ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO HAVE SESSIONS TAKE CONTROL OF INVESTIGATION

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Trump tried to get Sessions to declare that he was no longer recused from the Russia investigation and would assert control over it. The report says there’s evidence that one purpose of asking Sessions to step in was so that the attorney general would restrict the investigation’s scope.

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8. TRUMP ORDERS WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL TO DENY THAT PRESIDENT TRIED TO FIRE MUELLER

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Trump told McGahn to “correct” a New York Times story that reported Trump had earlier instructed McGahn to fire Mueller. Trump also asked why McGahn had told Mueller’s investigators about the directive to remove Mueller. McGahn told Trump he had to tell the investigators the truth.

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9. TRUMP’S ACTIONS TOWARD, FLYNN, MANAFORT AND OTHER POSSIBLE WITNESSES

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When Flynn began cooperating with prosecutors, Trump passed word through his lawyer that he still had warm feeling for Flynn and asked for a “heads up” if Flynn knew of information implicating Trump. Trump praised Manafort during and after his criminal convictions, and refused to rule out a pardon for his former campaign chairman.

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10. TRUMP ACTIONS TOWARD MICHAEL COHEN

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Mueller noted that Trump’s conduct toward Cohen, a former Trump Organization executive, changed from praise to castigation after Cohen began cooperating with prosecutors. The evidence could “support an inference that the president used inducements in the form of positive messages in an effort to get Cohen not to cooperate, and then turned to attacks and intimidation to deter” cooperation and undermine Cohen’s credibility, Mueller wrote.



hmmm ...to be continued...

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Right. President D.A. will no doubt continue to make things worst for himself because he has zero discipline or self-control. The list continues.... until he's indicted after he leaves office.

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Reply #177 posted 04/23/19 5:45am

Musicslave

benni said:

Musicslave said:

Not sure if this summary of potential obstruction charges have been listed yet:

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https://www.apnews.com/e0...3d9f1dffd8

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The 10 instances of possible obstruction in Mueller report

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1. PRESSURE ON COMEY TO END PROBE OF MICHAEL FLYNN

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This includes the president’s statement to then-FBI Director James Comey regarding the investigation of then-national security adviser Michael Flynn. Trump told Comey: “I hope you can see your way to letting this go.”

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2. PRESIDENT’S REACTION TO THE CONTINUING RUSSIA INVESTIGATION

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Among the evidence is the president telling then-White House counsel Don McGahn to stop Attorney General Jeff Sessions from recusing himself from the Russia investigation and Trump’s subsequent anger at Sessions. Trump also contacted Comey and other intelligence agency leaders to ask them to push back publicly on the suggestion that Trump had any connection to the Russian election-interference effort.

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3. FIRING OF COMEY AND AFTERMATH

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Mueller’s report says “substantial evidence” indicates Trump’s decision to fire Comey in May 2017 was the result of the FBI director’s unwillingness to say publicly that Trump was not personally under investigation. On the day after Trump fired Comey, the president told Russian officials that he had “faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

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4. APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL AND EFFORTS TO REMOVE HIM

-

Trump reacted to news of Mueller’s appointment by telling advisers that it was “the end of his presidency.” The president told aides that Mueller had conflicts of interest and should have to step aside. His aides told Trump the asserted conflicts were meritless. Following media reports that Mueller’s team was investigating whether the president had obstructed justice, Trump called then-White House counsel Don McGahn at home and directed him to have Mueller removed. McGahn refused.

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5. FURTHER EFFORTS TO CURTAIL THE SPECIAL COUNSEL’s INVESTIGATION

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Trump instructed former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski to have Sessions publicly announce that the investigation was “very unfair” to the president, the president had done nothing wrong, and Sessions planned to meet with Mueller to limit him to “investigating election meddling for future elections.”

-

6. EFFORTS TO PREVENT PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF EVIDENCE

-

In summer of 2017, Trump Tower Fallout: The president directed aides not to publicly disclose the emails setting up the meeting. Before the emails became public, the president also edited a press statement for Donald Trump Jr. by deleting a line that acknowledged that the meeting was “with an individual who (Trump Jr.) was told might have information helpful to the campaign.”

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7. ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO HAVE SESSIONS TAKE CONTROL OF INVESTIGATION

-

Trump tried to get Sessions to declare that he was no longer recused from the Russia investigation and would assert control over it. The report says there’s evidence that one purpose of asking Sessions to step in was so that the attorney general would restrict the investigation’s scope.

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8. TRUMP ORDERS WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL TO DENY THAT PRESIDENT TRIED TO FIRE MUELLER

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Trump told McGahn to “correct” a New York Times story that reported Trump had earlier instructed McGahn to fire Mueller. Trump also asked why McGahn had told Mueller’s investigators about the directive to remove Mueller. McGahn told Trump he had to tell the investigators the truth.

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9. TRUMP’S ACTIONS TOWARD, FLYNN, MANAFORT AND OTHER POSSIBLE WITNESSES

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When Flynn began cooperating with prosecutors, Trump passed word through his lawyer that he still had warm feeling for Flynn and asked for a “heads up” if Flynn knew of information implicating Trump. Trump praised Manafort during and after his criminal convictions, and refused to rule out a pardon for his former campaign chairman.

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10. TRUMP ACTIONS TOWARD MICHAEL COHEN

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Mueller noted that Trump’s conduct toward Cohen, a former Trump Organization executive, changed from praise to castigation after Cohen began cooperating with prosecutors. The evidence could “support an inference that the president used inducements in the form of positive messages in an effort to get Cohen not to cooperate, and then turned to attacks and intimidation to deter” cooperation and undermine Cohen’s credibility, Mueller wrote.



Thanks for posting this MusicSlave!

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You're welcome. There's nothing like the truth. (Unless you're talking to Rudy Giuliani of course, where truth isn't truth) lol

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Reply #178 posted 04/23/19 7:37am

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PennyPurple said:

2freaky4church1 said:

What is wrong with Wikileaks? Gave us a lot of good info.

Assange is being shut up because of his journalism.


I still don't believe that he was acting as a journalist.


A little thread bleed here, but this seems to be where traditional journalism went off the rails.


...The organization initially released the cables piecemeal and in redacted form, in conjunction with established media outlets such as the Guardian and the New York Times, but an accidental release of the passphrase for the encrypted cable archive meant all the cables became exposed, and Assange ended up publishing them without masking the names of U.S. informants...

fortune.com

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Reply #179 posted 04/23/19 7:54am

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Serial adulterer Donald J. Trump's own intelligence people told him Russia was trying to influence the 2016 presidential election. Putin told serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, "No, we weren't!" Serial adulterer Donald J. Trump believes Putin.

Serial adulterer Donald J. Trump's own intelligence people told him Kim Jong Un was a bad person who has killed many, many people - including members of his own family, not to mention the death of Otto Warmbier. Kim Jong Un told serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, "No, I didn't!" Serial adulterer Donald J. Trump believes Kim Jong Un.

Serial adulterer Donald J. Trump's own intelligence people told him Mohammed bin Salman personally ordered the murder and dismemberment of Washington Post columnist and U.S. resident Jamal Khashoggi. Mohammed bin Salman told serial adulterer Donald J. Trump, "No, I didn't!" Serial adulterer Donald J. Trump believes Mohammed bin Salman.

If you think serial adulterer Donald J. Trump's first and foremost allegiance is to the United States of America, you are an idiot.


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