Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Oh yeah, baby!

Pokeno4Money said:

Experts are saying it may be harder than we think.

NorthC said:

NorthC said:

Pokeno4Money said:

Do we really need 8 thousand pages of venting and baseless cursing towards Trump by the radical liberals here?

That's the first time I see the term "radical liberal". I'm not even sure such a thing exists. To me, liberalism means, let everybody live their own lives the way they want to. I don't think you can get radical with that. I do agree that this endless Trump-bashing is getting a little tiresome.

The right is "trying" to make it a term. After the term "radical right" became a thing...they thought, "we can say that tooooooo."

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

NorthC said:

Pokeno4Money said: That's the first time I see the term "radical liberal". I'm not even sure such a thing exists. To me, liberalism means, let everybody live their own lives the way they want to. I don't think you can get radical with that. I do agree that this endless Trump-bashing is getting a little tiresome.

The right is "trying" to make it a term. After the term "radical right" became a thing...they thought, "we can say that tooooooo."

^ yep.

Neither one of them is a "thing". There's left, right and center and then there are extremists on the left and the right. None of the extremists are radical, but they're ALL wrong.

djThunderfunk said:

NorthC said:

djThunderfunk said:

Neither one of them is a "thing". There's left, right and center and then there are extremists on the left and the right. None of the extremists are radical, but they're ALL wrong.

This is new to me... What, accoding to you, is the difference between "extreme" and "radical" especially if they're all wrong?

Seems my definition of radical doesn't match up with the actual definition of radical which is close enought to extreme: furthest from the center or a given point; outermost.

So, I take it back, both are a thing. There are plenty of extremists on both sides of the political spectrum, so, since radical actually does mean pretty much the same thing, I guess there's plenty of radicals on both sides too.


Surely no one is claiming this definition of radical does not apply to some on the left: advocating or based on thorough or complete political or social change; representing or supporting an extreme or progressive section of a political party, or this one: a person who advocates thorough or complete political or social reform; a member of a political party or part of a party pursuing such aims.

Clearly there are those on the left that fit these definition.

Furthermore, synonyms for radical include: revolutionary, progressive, reformer. So, I stand corrected by definition, YES, there is a "radical" left.

[Edited 5/20/17 15:29pm]

NorthC said:

Pokeno4Money said:

Do we really need 8 thousand pages of venting and baseless cursing towards Trump by the radical liberals here?

That's the first time I see the term "radical liberal". I'm not even sure such a thing exists. To me, liberalism means, let everybody live their own lives the way they want to. I don't think you can get radical with that. I do agree that this endless Trump-bashing is getting a little tiresome.

The term has been around for years, I've been using it here for almost as long. Of course it exists. Radical Islamists are those that go to extreme lengths to support their beliefs, right? Same thing with radical liberals. They'll deny facts, they refuse to acknowledge positive things about Trump and Republicans, they refuse to acknowledge wrongs committed by Democrats, they try to force their opinions on others, they are not open minded, they are not willing to listen to opposing viewpoints, and they often resort to violence. That's radical, without a doubt.

I think your definition of liberalism is accurate, but the radicals simply take it too far. Which is unfortunate, because just like all Muslims aren't bad .... all liberals aren't bad either. It's a shame the radical liberals are ruining it for the reasonable, peaceful liberals.

2freaky4church1 said:

Experts are saying it may be harder than we think.

that's what she said

Pokeno4Money said:

NorthC said:

Pokeno4Money said: That's the first time I see the term "radical liberal". I'm not even sure such a thing exists. To me, liberalism means, let everybody live their own lives the way they want to. I don't think you can get radical with that. I do agree that this endless Trump-bashing is getting a little tiresome.

The term has been around for years, I've been using it here for almost as long. Of course it exists. Radical Islamists are those that go to extreme lengths to support their beliefs, right? Same thing with radical liberals. They'll deny facts, they refuse to acknowledge positive things about Trump and Republicans, they refuse to acknowledge wrongs committed by Democrats, they try to force their opinions on others, they are not open minded, they are not willing to listen to opposing viewpoints, and they often resort to violence. That's radical, without a doubt.

I think your definition of liberalism is accurate, but the radicals simply take it too far. Which is unfortunate, because just like all Muslims aren't bad .... all liberals aren't bad either. It's a shame the radical liberals are ruining it for the reasonable, peaceful liberals.

Anyone in their right mind would do that, i mean what's positive about them, specially about Trump?

[Edited 5/21/17 15:33pm]

OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Experts are saying it may be harder than we think.

that's what she said

Ha, I was thinking of writing something along the same lines!

DiminutiveRocker said:

True, the staffers could be charged - but if it can be proven that DT knew what was happening does that not implicate him as well? Pence?

Yes, you may be right about the timeline of the investgation. It's just that the last 6 months have been such a swirl of sensational news cycles and scandals that the desire to stop the runaway train is very strong.

Bill Maher is thinking like some of the Orgers on this Site...Bill said on Friday that he thinks Trump will be Impeached or he'll resign by December...

I'm sort'of a Psychic or I should say my gut instincts are usually on-point....I don't see Drama Queen Donald getting impeached and I don't see him resigning...I'll go even further than that..The Democrats will not take over the House or The Senate in 2018...

We are probably stuck with Donald for 4yrs but I will say this...Everybody is worn out by his Craziness...Donald likes being Crazy & he Loves being an Old Bitch...I don't know how America is gonna put up with him for 4 whole years...He has to keep Drama & Confusion going becuz that's his Fuel..

If Intelligence &/or Reporters can catch him accepting Bribes to pay off his massive debt then his azz is GONE...When it comes to Money, running businesses and paying creditors/vendors we know he's capable of being sloppy...His Stupid mouth is his worst enemy...He does have a history of Following local-Laws when it comes to stiffing vendors. His crooked Lawyers are good at protecting him and he pays them well....Let's see if he'll be sloppy....

OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Experts are saying it may be harder than we think.

that's what she said

Said Melania, never.

Chancellor said:

I'm sort'of a Psychic or I should say my gut instincts are usually on-point....I don't see Drama Queen Donald getting impeached and I don't see him resigning...I'll go even further than that..The Democrats will not take over the House or The Senate in 2018...

We are probably stuck with Donald for 4yrs but I will say this...Everybody is worn out by his Craziness...Donald likes being Crazy & he Loves being an Old Bitch...I don't know how America is gonna put up with him for 4 whole years...He has to keep Drama & Confusion going becuz that's his Fuel..

If Intelligence &/or Reporters can catch him accepting Bribes to pay off his massive debt then his azz is GONE...When it comes to Money, running businesses and paying creditors/vendors we know he's capable of being sloppy...His Stupid mouth is his worst enemy...He does have a history of Following local-Laws when it comes to stiffing vendors. His crooked Lawyers are good at protecting him and he pays them well....Let's see if he'll be sloppy....

I agree with everything you wrote, we need more posts like yours here.

Chancellor said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

True, the staffers could be charged - but if it can be proven that DT knew what was happening does that not implicate him as well? Pence?

Yes, you may be right about the timeline of the investgation. It's just that the last 6 months have been such a swirl of sensational news cycles and scandals that the desire to stop the runaway train is very strong.

Bill Maher is thinking like some of the Orgers on this Site...Bill said on Friday that he thinks Trump will be Impeached or he'll resign by December...

I'm sort'of a Psychic or I should say my gut instincts are usually on-point....I don't see Drama Queen Donald getting impeached and I don't see him resigning...I'll go even further than that..The Democrats will not take over the House or The Senate in 2018...

We are probably stuck with Donald for 4yrs but I will say this...Everybody is worn out by his Craziness...Donald likes being Crazy & he Loves being an Old Bitch...I don't know how America is gonna put up with him for 4 whole years...He has to keep Drama & Confusion going becuz that's his Fuel..

If Intelligence &/or Reporters can catch him accepting Bribes to pay off his massive debt then his azz is GONE...When it comes to Money, running businesses and paying creditors/vendors we know he's capable of being sloppy...His Stupid mouth is his worst enemy...He does have a history of Following local-Laws when it comes to stiffing vendors. His crooked Lawyers are good at protecting him and he pays them well....Let's see if he'll be sloppy....

December feels a bit early but there may be big shake ups in his administration between now and then that won't bode well for him. It is very difficult to impeach a president - Nixon spared himself the process because his own party asked him to step down. Clinton and Johnson were both acquitted by the Senate. In any case, it's going ot be a very rough four years and if 45 has participated in anything even remotely illegal someone will find it because his constant criticisms of the press has inspired reporters to investigate anything that remotely smacks of an impropriety.

Curious - did you predict that Trump would win? I know you are no fan of his based on your posts, but I do not remember if you thought he was definitely going to win the election 6 months ago. A friend of mine is also psychic and she does not feel he will be elected to a second term - but I should ask her about impeachment see what she feels

Pokeno4Money said:

Chancellor said:

I'm sort'of a Psychic or I should say my gut instincts are usually on-point....I don't see Drama Queen Donald getting impeached and I don't see him resigning...I'll go even further than that..The Democrats will not take over the House or The Senate in 2018...

We are probably stuck with Donald for 4yrs but I will say this...Everybody is worn out by his Craziness...Donald likes being Crazy & he Loves being an Old Bitch...I don't know how America is gonna put up with him for 4 whole years...He has to keep Drama & Confusion going becuz that's his Fuel..

If Intelligence &/or Reporters can catch him accepting Bribes to pay off his massive debt then his azz is GONE...When it comes to Money, running businesses and paying creditors/vendors we know he's capable of being sloppy...His Stupid mouth is his worst enemy...He does have a history of Following local-Laws when it comes to stiffing vendors. His crooked Lawyers are good at protecting him and he pays them well....Let's see if he'll be sloppy....

I agree with everything you wrote, we need more posts like yours here.

Actually, what we really need is for 45 to spend the rest of his repulsive life behind bars.

13cjk13 said:

Pokeno4Money said:

I agree with everything you wrote, we need more posts like yours here.

Actually, what we really need is for 45 to spend the rest of his repulsive life behind bars.

the questions that opens are:


1) do you want him to commit a crime or crimes worthy of such a sentence?

or

2) Do you want him falsely imprisoned?

13cjk13 said:

Actually, what we really need is for 45 to spend the rest of his repulsive life behind bars.

Trump doesn't even drink, and you want him to be a bartender?

DiminutiveRocker said:

December feels a bit early but there may be big shake ups in his administration between now and then that won't bode well for him. It is very difficult to impeach a president - Nixon spared himself the process because his own party asked him to step down. Clinton and Johnson were both acquitted by the Senate. In any case, it's going ot be a very rough four years and if 45 has participated in anything even remotely illegal someone will find it because his constant criticisms of the press has inspired reporters to investigate anything that remotely smacks of an impropriety.

Curious - did you predict that Trump would win? I know you are no fan of his based on your posts, but I do not remember if you thought he was definitely going to win the election 6 months ago. A friend of mine is also psychic and she does not feel he will be elected to a second term - but I should ask her about impeachment see what she feels

...LOL...I predicted Obama back in 2008 but I was on the fence with Hillary & Donald...My main worry was Angry White Voters showing up to the polls in record numbers...In the back of my mind I knew if White Voters Hated Hillary more than they Hated Donald then Donald would win...

What we're witnessing now is Poor White Voters being ok with Donald's Craziness...The fact that he wants to Cut Food-Stamps & Medicaid is not even making them angry..Let's not even mention that Mess of a Healthcare Bill that will Fuck poor folks if it passes..

Paul Ryan, GOP Congress & Donald are going after poor people and I guess it'll matter when the benefits get reduced to nothing..

Pokeno4Money said:

I agree with everything you wrote, we need more posts like yours here.

The feeling is mutual...

Chancellor said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

December feels a bit early but there may be big shake ups in his administration between now and then that won't bode well for him. It is very difficult to impeach a president - Nixon spared himself the process because his own party asked him to step down. Clinton and Johnson were both acquitted by the Senate. In any case, it's going ot be a very rough four years and if 45 has participated in anything even remotely illegal someone will find it because his constant criticisms of the press has inspired reporters to investigate anything that remotely smacks of an impropriety.

Curious - did you predict that Trump would win? I know you are no fan of his based on your posts, but I do not remember if you thought he was definitely going to win the election 6 months ago. A friend of mine is also psychic and she does not feel he will be elected to a second term - but I should ask her about impeachment see what she feels

...LOL...I predicted Obama back in 2008 but I was on the fence with Hillary & Donald...My main worry was Angry White Voters showing up to the polls in record numbers...In the back of my mind I knew if White Voters Hated Hillary more than they Hated Donald then Donald would win...

What we're witnessing now is Poor White Voters being ok with Donald's Craziness...The fact that he wants to Cut Food-Stamps & Medicaid is not even making them angry..Let's not even mention that Mess of a Healthcare Bill that will Fuck poor folks if it passes..

Paul Ryan, GOP Congress & Donald are going after poor people and I guess it'll matter when the benefits get reduced to nothing..

^ True, when these people voted for "change" I am sure they did not think it would be the recipients of the shorter end of the stick when it comes to "entitlements" and healthcare. Sadly, I guess they'll get what they voted for.

Pokeno4Money said:

13cjk13 said:

Actually, what we really need is for 45 to spend the rest of his repulsive life behind bars.

Trump doesn't even drink, and you want him to be a bartender?

My dream is for him to fall in his own sinkhole at Mary-Leggo. Then cover it up quick.

The president can be censured by Congress.

I can see that happening. The GOP may float that as a way to reprimand President Trump, and hoping that kills any drive for impeachment.

RodeoSchro said:

The president can be censured by Congress.

I can see that happening. The GOP may float that as a way to reprimand President Trump, and hoping that kills any drive for impeachment.

That seems like something they would do, depending on how compelling the information is after the investigation is completed.

DiminutiveRocker said:

RodeoSchro said:

The president can be censured by Congress.

I can see that happening. The GOP may float that as a way to reprimand President Trump, and hoping that kills any drive for impeachment.

That seems like something they would do, depending on how compelling the information is after the investigation is completed.

It literally gets more compelling by the day!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/0...index.html


Washington (CNN)Former CIA Director John Brennan told House Russia investigators Tuesday that Russia "brazenly interfered" in US elections, including actively contacting members of the President Donald Trump's campaign -- but he stopped shy of dubbing it "collusion."


"I saw interaction that in my mind raised questions of whether it was collusion," Brennan told Rep. Trey Gowdy, saying that he supported the FBI digging further. "It was necessary to pull threads."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/0...index.html


Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump asked two of the government's top intelligence chiefs to publicly deny evidence of cooperation between his campaign and Russia during the 2016 election, multiple current and former US officials confirmed to CNN Monday.


The revelations, first reported by The Washington Post, deepen the intrigue over alleged links between Trump's campaign and Russia. They follow the President's firing of FBI Director James Comey and subsequent statement he sacked Comey because of the Russia probe.


Trump spoke to Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and National Security Agency Director Adm. Michael Rogers after Comey revealed in March that the bureau had launched a probe into alleged collusion. Both Coats and Rogers were uncomfortable with the nature of the President's request and refused to comply, the sources with knowledge of the situation told CNN.

I heard part of Brennan's testimony on my drive into work this morning. He seemed to be forthright with his answers.

But this : Both Coats and Rogers were uncomfortable with the nature of the President's request and refused to comply

"Mr. Brennan, the former C.I.A. director, said Tuesday that he became concerned last year that the Russian government was trying to influence members of the Trump campaign to act — wittingly or unwittingly — on Moscow’s behalf.

“I encountered and am aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between Russian officials and U.S. persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts to suborn such individuals,” Mr. Brennan told lawmakers on the House Intelligence Committee.