There....

I have been a Republican since the 80s ... but more independent than not ...

Trump is the first pres where ... i have to admit ... i just do not get it .

He is so odd ... so disjointed and hard to listen to .

I frankly do not believe a word he says ... at this point .

Yeah, he's unhinged from reality, if he's proposing that the Democratics give in to his healthcare plan, when his own party voted against it.

Beautifulstarr123 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

There....

Thank you 2freaky! Less twirling much appreciated.

2elijah said:

Beautifulstarr123 said:

Yeah, he's unhinged from reality, if he's proposing that the Democratics give in to his healthcare plan, when his own party voted against it.

Just read the House passed the bill. Now has to go to the Senate to vote on.

Dag nab those azzholes. Not one Dem voted for it. #Trumpcare

oh okay then!


House passed the repeal of the uACA! On to the Senate! I have no idea how it will do there.

purplepoppy said:

2elijah said:

Beautifulstarr123 said: Just read the House passed the bill. Now has to go to the Senate to vote on.

Dag nab those azzholes. Not one Dem voted for it. #Trumpcare

they rather have it fall apart and not get improved and protect the legacy of barack than even consider making it better....

OnlyNDaUsa said:

purplepoppy said:

Dag nab those azzholes. Not one Dem voted for it. #Trumpcare

they rather have it fall apart and not get improved and protect the legacy of barack than even consider making it better....

Better means 800 billion dollars in Medicaid cuts. One quarter of the program. You must be so proud of children and seniors going without. Improvement my azz.

purplepoppy said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

they rather have it fall apart and not get improved and protect the legacy of barack than even consider making it better....

Better means 800 billion dollars in Medicaid cuts. One quarter of the program. You must be so proud of children and seniors going without. Improvement my azz.

800 Billion? Source? and if that is what they are cutting it needs to be cut.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

purplepoppy said:

Better means 800 billion dollars in Medicaid cuts. One quarter of the program. You must be so proud of children and seniors going without. Improvement my azz.

800 Billion? Source? and if that is what they are cutting it needs to be cut.

AARP Legislative Policy Director David Certner. Use the google.

here is one thing I want in the new insurance law.

for so-called pre-existing conditions: Basically, we all have a window to get coverage. Once covered as long as you maintain coverage you can move to other comparable plans or a different plan with conditions (such as a physical or some other means to ensure you are otherwise healthy or that conditions are disclosed). Once the window closes (say 6 months) then any new sign ups have conditions and wait times and other limits to coverage. This is to make sure people get coverage and keep covered.

If a person loses their coverage they will have a rolling window of not being covered of say 6 months for 3 years.

If you fail to do so then again there are extended wait times and limits and conditions to become covered again.

to me, that is a better means to motivate people to get coverage. As it is not the fines are lower than most plans. And where do those fines go? they ought to go to insurance companies as they are the ones that under the ACA would have to cover someone who pays the fine until he needs it and then signs up!

purplepoppy said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

800 Billion? Source? and if that is what they are cutting it needs to be cut.

AARP Legislative Policy Director David Certner. Use the google.

He has no idea how to do that ^ and cannot be educated.

Yep - it's a shit bill. We can only pray that the Republican senators will not further screw over their constituencies the way the congressmen did.

Seriously pathetic.

2freaky4church1 said:

There....

Do us a favor and change the "may" to *IS*

purplepoppy said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

800 Billion? Source? and if that is what they are cutting it needs to be cut.

AARP Legislative Policy Director David Certner. Use the google.

it says "potential cuts" and that could be over decades and could be covered by other programs as well... so it seems it is made up as i thought/

No other politician could have got it done that fast. This is HUGE! HUGE! HUGE! If he can fix Obamacare into TrumpCare and continue to kill off ISIS he will win a second term.

DiminutiveRocker said:

purplepoppy said:

AARP Legislative Policy Director David Certner. Use the google.

He has no idea how to do that ^ and cannot be educated.

Yep - it's a shit bill. We can only pray that the Republican senators will not further screw over their constituencies the way the congressmen did.

Seriously pathetic.

oh you believe the ACA is great and lowering the cost and improving the care and I see it driving up the cost and making care harder to get... oh you need a specialist to replace your ear drum? well, there are none in your network and you can not file for an exception because any ENT can do that... it is not like hearing is BOTH ears is all that vital.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

they rather have it fall apart and not get improved and protect the legacy of barack than even consider making it better....

The repubs/conservs mission was to destroy Obama's legacy.


GOOD!


They didn't give a crap about what works for Americans.

that is just not true... it is hateful to say that but I am not suprised

We may see some angry folks at town hall meetings.

ok?


Nothing historic about the change in this healthcare bill.

Not sure what you think you mean but okay?


The older Americans will be the ones suffering.

you are making that up out of partisan whole cloth

I hope in the next election, if it doesn't get rigged, vote these assholes out of office.


It was rigged in Hilary's favor... or should i say "It was not rigged it is called LOSING!" LOL (are you 100% sure you did not mock trump at all when he was whining about it being rigged? Even when brack said it was AND in his (Obama's) favor!

2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

they rather have it fall apart and not get improved and protect the legacy of barack than even consider making it better....

The repubs/conservs mission was to destroy Obama's legacy. They didn't give a crap about what works for Americans. We may see some angry folks at town hall meetings. Nothing historic about the change in this healthcare bill. The older Americans will be the ones suffering. I hope in the next election, if it doesn't get rigged, vote these assholes out of office.

2E the GOP does not give a shit about people - if they did they would have come up with (and had 7 years to do it) a plan that helped instead of hurt the most vulnerbale in our country- that is not what they are or ever will be known for.

REPEAL AND REPLACE in that Trump accent

SuperFurryAnimal said:

REPEAL AND REPLACE in that Trump accent

bigly!

"I don't have Obamacare, I have ACA! I'm VOTIN' FER TRUMP! yuk yuk yuk"

DiminutiveRocker said:

"I don't have Obamacare, I have ACA! I'm VOTIN' FER TRUMP! yuk yuk yuk"

yeah, some are confused. what is funny are the ones that say "I do not have Obamacare I get my coverage through my job" but unless you are subject to the tax penalty you are on Obamacare...what they mean is they do not have an exchange plan. (one dr office asked me if my blue cross was Obamacare or employee provided..." i lied and said "Obamacare" she said "we do not take that" I lied again "No I said 'not Obamacare' it is through [my employeer]" but it was the pretty much the same plan)

purplepoppy said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

800 Billion? Source? and if that is what they are cutting it needs to be cut.

AARP Legislative Policy Director David Certner. Use the google.

Is there a fake news Google he could use?

SuperFurryAnimal said:

No other politician could have got it done that fast. This is HUGE! HUGE! HUGE! If he can fix Obamacare into TrumpCare and continue to kill off ISIS he will win a second term.

He's a cunt.

how many days did barack need to pass the ACA?

426 days so anything short of that is a yuge victory

2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

they rather have it fall apart and not get improved and protect the legacy of barack than even consider making it better....

The repubs/conservs mission was to destroy Obama's legacy. They didn't give a crap about what works for Americans. We may see some angry folks at town hall meetings. Nothing historic about the change in this healthcare bill. The older Americans will be the ones suffering. I hope in the next election, if it doesn't get rigged, vote these assholes out of office.

The tea party (or whatever they are now) folks at town hall meetings that wanted to repeal the ACA and voted for Trump got there in Medicaid subsidized wheelchairs. What idiots! This is awful for my state.

DiminutiveRocker said:

2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: The repubs/conservs mission was to destroy Obama's legacy. They didn't give a crap about what works for Americans. We may see some angry folks at town hall meetings. Nothing historic about the change in this healthcare bill. The older Americans will be the ones suffering. I hope in the next election, if it doesn't get rigged, vote these assholes out of office.

2E the GOP does not give a shit about people - if they did they would have come up with (and had 7 years to do it) a plan that helped instead of hurt the most vulnerbale in our country- that is not what they are or ever will be known for.

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