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Thread started 04/24/17 10:02pm

hausofmoi7

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Dr Cornel West Op-ed: "The Democrats delivered one thing in the past 100 days: disappointment"

Time has come for the U.S to finally have a leftist option/party in politics.
The U.S could elect a progressive party and that could really influence and transform the west to move away from neo-liberalism and truly embrace progressive politics too.


https://www.theguardian.c...ppointment
The distinctive feature of these bleak times is the lack of institutional capacity on the left – the absence of a political party that swings free of Wall Street and speaks to the dire circumstances of poor and working people. As the first 100 days of the plutocratic and militaristic Trump administration draw to a close, one truth has been crystal clear: the Democratic party lacks the vision, discipline and leadership to guide progressives in these turbulent times.

The neoliberal vision of the Democratic party has run its course. The corporate wing has made it clear that the populist wing has little power or place in its future. The discipline of the party is strong on self-preservation and weak on embracing new voices. And party leaders too often revel in self-righteousness and self-pity rather than self-criticism and self-enhancement. The time has come to bid farewell to a moribund party that lacks imagination, courage and gusto.

The 2016 election – which Democrats lost more than Republicans won – was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The unfair treatment of Bernie Sanders was but the peak of the iceberg. In the face of a cardboard Republican candidate equipped with pseudo-populist rhetoric and ugly xenophobic plans, the Democratic party put forward a Wall Street-connected and openly militaristic candidate with little charisma.

The crucial issues of a $15 minimum wage and saying no to fracking, no to TPP, no to Israeli occupation and yes to single-payer healthcare were pushed aside by the corporate wing and the populist wing was told to quit whining or take responsibility for the improbable loss.

The monumental collapse of the Democratic party – on the federal, state and local levels – has not yielded any serious soul-wrestling or substantive visionary shifts among its leadership. Only the ubiquitous and virtuous Bernie remains true to the idea of fundamental transformation of the party – and even he admits that seeking first-class seats on the Titanic is self-deceptive and self-destructive.

We progressives need new leadership and institutional capacity that provides strong resistance to Trump’s vicious policies, concrete alternatives that matter to ordinary citizens and credible visions that go beyond Wall Street priorities and militaristic policies. And appealing to young people is a good testing ground.

Even as we forge a united front against Trump’s neofascist efforts, we must admit the Democratic party has failed us and we have to move on. Where? To what? When brother Nick Brana, a former Bernie campaign staffer, told me about the emerging progressive populist or social democratic party – the People’s party – that builds on the ruins of a dying Democratic party and creates new constituencies in this moment of transition and liquidation, I said count me in.

And if a class-conscious multi-racial party attuned to anti-sexist, anti-homophobic and anti-militaristic issues and grounded in ecological commitments can reconfigure our citizenship, maybe our decaying democracy has a chance. And if brother Bernie Sanders decides to join us – with many others, including sister Jill Stein and activists from Black Lives Matter and brown immigrant groups and Standing Rock freedom fighters and betrayed working people – we may build something for the near future after Trump implodes.
[Edited 4/24/17 22:18pm]
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #1 posted 04/25/17 4:26am

Chancellor

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I've always respected Dr. Cornel West..He was LOVING Obama like the rest of us until Obama Staffers told him he could not bring a guest to a State Dinner (at the last minute). He wanted to bring his mother. After that incident he threw shade at Obama for years...I know, small potatoes but some people don't know how to deal with their Butt-hurt-feelings...

Yes the Democrats in Congress need to get rid of the Dinosaurs in leadership and nominate some young blood..If their ideas won them elections then let's give'em a chance to Lead..Congress needs a reboot, but it aint gonna happen...

I'm definitely Team Tom Perez as our new Party Chair. He's embrasing Bernie supporters who are Democrats and Hillary haters...Tom knows we have to win back the States we lost, reach out to White Men and Rural voters...

Donald Trump is such a constant liar and just a Crazy old man. He's a Gift to the Democrats but we don't know how to stay on message & HAMMER his azz every Damn Day on Camera, on the Congress Floor, through Commercials (especially online commercials)...We're just not good at being Ruthless..



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Reply #2 posted 04/29/17 12:37am

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Cornel is right. The Democrats are a joke, but a third party has no chance of getting anywhere. The best chance to succeed is to launch a full scale takeover of the DNC. That is already starting to happen. Justice Democrats is one part of that. Bernie is another part of it. There's no need to start another party. It's impractical. Just flood the DNC and take it over.

“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
- Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #3 posted 04/29/17 5:49pm

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midnightmover said:

The best chance to succeed is to launch a full scale takeover of the DNC. That is already starting to happen. Justice Democrats is one part of that. Bernie is another part of it. There's no need to start another party. It's impractical. Just flood the DNC and take it over.


I agree and would totally support that.

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #4 posted 04/29/17 6:05pm

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Trump is a new breed of animal and they don't know what to do.
What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #5 posted 04/29/17 7:48pm

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midnightmover said:

Cornel is right. The Democrats are a joke, but a third party has no chance of getting anywhere. The best chance to succeed is to launch a full scale takeover of the DNC. That is already starting to happen. Justice Democrats is one part of that. Bernie is another part of it. There's no need to start another party. It's impractical. Just flood the DNC and take it over.


What do you say to the argument that the party is too tied to the policies and entities that a progressive movement wants to push against?
Many believe that having such a movement within the democratic party structure means having to compromise ideals and policies.
It may end up meaning in order to work within the democratic party's structure that you will have to choose either giving up workers rights or social projects or civil and human rights or disarming the military complex or healthcare or Palestine. Which are all things that are non negotiable to the overall vision and heart of such a movement.
Using the existing democratic party platform to achieve a truly progressive agenda would be the quickest way to get there, and these are urgent issues.
But from what I gather the structure will not support these policies without compromise and that ultimately is what makes the democratic party platform unfeasible.




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[Edited 4/29/17 21:35pm]
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Reply #6 posted 04/30/17 9:43am

purplepoppy

Try to get anywhere in life doing anything without compromise. Including driving down the street. Rigid boundries only exist on paper. You have to start somewhere and tweak as you go along.

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Reply #7 posted 04/30/17 9:50am

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purplepoppy said:

Try to get anywhere in life doing anything without compromise. Including driving down the street. Rigid boundries only exist on paper. You have to start somewhere and tweak as you go along.


Well said.

And that's precisely why so many people support Trump. They take his good with his bad, which is the epitome of compromise.

So when are YOU going to begin compromising by supporting some of the things Trump is attempting to accomplish?

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #8 posted 04/30/17 10:39am

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When I agree with what he is trying to "accomplish" - so far I don't. Following an idiot is not compromise. It's suicide.

I was responding to mover (who I agree with this time) and haus. There are plenty threads about Cheeto. The topic here is Democrats.

[Edited 4/30/17 11:50am]

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Reply #9 posted 04/30/17 10:47am

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Pokeno4Money said:

purplepoppy said:

Try to get anywhere in life doing anything without compromise. Including driving down the street. Rigid boundries only exist on paper. You have to start somewhere and tweak as you go along.


Well said.

And that's precisely why so many people support Trump. They take his good with his bad, which is the epitome of compromise.

So when are YOU going to begin compromising by supporting some of the things Trump is attempting to accomplish?

What do you think he has done that is good (please note I said done not 'attempting to accomplish')?

We are all okay, as long as "we" are the ones living on top of the empire of eternal war. - Jaawwnn
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Reply #10 posted 04/30/17 2:58pm

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maplenpg said:

Pokeno4Money said:


Well said.

And that's precisely why so many people support Trump. They take his good with his bad, which is the epitome of compromise.

So when are YOU going to begin compromising by supporting some of the things Trump is attempting to accomplish?

What do you think he has done that is good (please note I said done not 'attempting to accomplish')?


The response to Syria's gassing of civilians (widely praised domestically and internationally, even by Hillary)

The dramatic drop in illegal border crossings from Mexico.

The soaring of the stock market due to confidence in Trump and his policies.

The 30 executive orders signed, 11 more than Obama signed in his first 100 days.

The replacement for Justice Scalia confirmed.

The reversal of multiple Obama offshore drilling restrictions.

Review of existing national monument designations.

Hiring freeze for various government worker positions.

Five year ban on officials becoming lobbyists after leaving government work.

Lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

Mandating agencies ordered to abolish two regulations for every one introduced.

Removal of more illegals than Obama's first 100 days.

Dropping of the MOAB, first time it was actually put in use, to destroy key IS area and kill at least 92 IS militants.


[Edited 4/30/17 14:58pm]

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

https://nypost.com/2019/0...a-is-long/
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Reply #11 posted 04/30/17 3:23pm

purplepoppy

^^^ hijacked hijacked hijacked

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Reply #12 posted 04/30/17 4:26pm

13cjk13

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Trump is a new breed of animal and they don't know what to do.

The cuntasaurus.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #13 posted 04/30/17 4:26pm

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Pokeno4Money said:

maplenpg said:

What do you think he has done that is good (please note I said done not 'attempting to accomplish')?


The response to Syria's gassing of civilians (widely praised domestically and internationally, even by Hillary)

The dramatic drop in illegal border crossings from Mexico.

The soaring of the stock market due to confidence in Trump and his policies.

The 30 executive orders signed, 11 more than Obama signed in his first 100 days.

The replacement for Justice Scalia confirmed.

The reversal of multiple Obama offshore drilling restrictions.

Review of existing national monument designations.

Hiring freeze for various government worker positions.

Five year ban on officials becoming lobbyists after leaving government work.

Lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

Mandating agencies ordered to abolish two regulations for every one introduced.

Removal of more illegals than Obama's first 100 days.

Dropping of the MOAB, first time it was actually put in use, to destroy key IS area and kill at least 92 IS militants.


[Edited 4/30/17 14:58pm]

Fuck Trump.

"If we had had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
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Reply #14 posted 04/30/17 5:00pm

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13cjk13 said:

Pokeno4Money said:


The response to Syria's gassing of civilians (widely praised domestically and internationally, even by Hillary)

The dramatic drop in illegal border crossings from Mexico.

The soaring of the stock market due to confidence in Trump and his policies.

The 30 executive orders signed, 11 more than Obama signed in his first 100 days.

The replacement for Justice Scalia confirmed.

The reversal of multiple Obama offshore drilling restrictions.

Review of existing national monument designations.

Hiring freeze for various government worker positions.

Five year ban on officials becoming lobbyists after leaving government work.

Lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

Mandating agencies ordered to abolish two regulations for every one introduced.

Removal of more illegals than Obama's first 100 days.

Dropping of the MOAB, first time it was actually put in use, to destroy key IS area and kill at least 92 IS militants.


[Edited 4/30/17 14:58pm]

Fuck Trump.


So mature, intelligent and classy.

Your country is probably GLAD that you're too embarrassed to say you're one of their citizens. lol

"Jussie Smollett wanted to become the Rosa Parks of Gay Black Men, but instead he became the Rosie Ruiz."

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Reply #15 posted 05/02/17 6:21pm

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Cornel West is annoying as fuck. I agree with him on most things, but he would be more appreciated by me if he would sit in a corner and shut the fuck up. He does more harm with his pretensions than just keeping quiet.

And if he ever utters the words plutocrat and oglyarchy in an interview again, I will lock him up in a room with Dennis Miller and throw away the key.
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Reply #16 posted 05/03/17 9:27am

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Cornel is as close to MLK than anyone. Morality always makes you an enemy in a stupid country.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #17 posted 05/03/17 9:32am

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Cornel loves freedom:

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #18 posted 05/03/17 10:46am

Ugot2shakesumt
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2freaky4church1 said:

Cornel is as close to MLK than anyone. Morality always makes you an enemy in a stupid country.

..rrriiiiggghhht

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Reply #19 posted 05/03/17 4:38pm

Dasein

2freaky4church1 said:

Cornel is as close to MLK than anyone.


Put down the drugs.

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Reply #20 posted 05/03/17 6:50pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:



2freaky4church1 said:


Cornel is as close to MLK than anyone. Morality always makes you an enemy in a stupid country.





..rrriiiiggghhht


Dr West politically and as an activist is along the lines of a later day Dr King. Later day Dr King is not often spoken about so perhaps that's why such a comparison goes over some people's head.
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Reply #21 posted 05/03/17 7:08pm

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purplepoppy said:

When I agree with what he is trying to "accomplish" - so far I don't. Following an idiot is not compromise.[Edited 4/30/17 11:50am]


The way you feel about Trump is how many people feel about the democratic party.
Also, many of the entities that are behind Trump's policies are involved with the democratic party and like you said compromise is not an option.
“It means finding the very human narrative of a man navigating between idealism and pragmatism, faith and politics, non- violence, the pitfalls of acclaim as the perils of rejection” - Lesley Hazleton on the first Muslim, the prophet.
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Reply #22 posted 05/03/17 7:26pm

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hausofmoi7 said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

..rrriiiiggghhht

Dr West politically and as an activist is along the lines of a later day Dr King. Later day Dr King is not often spoken about so perhaps that's why such a comparison goes over some people's head.

Let's not get carried away. He is a smart man and a political activist. But he is also a twat. A messy bush of a twat.

I like most of his politics as I am a flaming liberal. But he is as hard to tolerate as much as Keith Olbermann. And I also mostly agree with Keith Olbermann, but both are twats.

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Reply #23 posted 05/03/17 8:45pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

hausofmoi7 said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said: Dr West politically and as an activist is along the lines of a later day Dr King. Later day Dr King is not often spoken about so perhaps that's why such a comparison goes over some people's head.

Let's not get carried away. He is a smart man and a political activist. But he is also a twat. A messy bush of a twat.

I like most of his politics as I am a flaming liberal. But he is as hard to tolerate as much as Keith Olbermann. And I also mostly agree with Keith Olbermann, but both are twats.

evillol

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What is a flaming liberal?

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #25 posted 05/04/17 9:39am

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2freaky4church1 said:

What is a flaming liberal?



The best kind
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Preach dammit:

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #27 posted 05/04/17 10:13am

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"I'd rather be in a crack house than the white house." lol

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #28 posted 05/04/17 10:58am

Dasein

hausofmoi7 said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

..rrriiiiggghhht

Dr West politically and as an activist is along the lines of a later day Dr King. Later day Dr King is not often spoken about so perhaps that's why such a comparison goes over some people's head.


To suggest that West is along the lines of MLK simply because of his political activism is a rather
strict and simplistic rendering of MLK's work and legacy.

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midnightmover said:

Cornel is right. The Democrats are a joke, but a third party has no chance of getting anywhere. The best chance to succeed is to launch a full scale takeover of the DNC. That is already starting to happen. Justice Democrats is one part of that. Bernie is another part of it. There's no need to start another party. It's impractical. Just flood the DNC and take it over.

That would be costly, would it?

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