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Thread started 06/07/10 11:32am

NobodyUknow

mosque "near" ground zero.....???

A mosque at ground zero....?

Good Idea or bad...???

It think it's a TERRIBLE idea.

Not only for NY for allowing it but for for Muslims for wanting one there.

It's sends a bad signal all arround 2 me.

What is the point on both parties 4 it? stickpoke

[Edited 6/7/10 22:44pm]

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Reply #1 posted 06/07/10 11:58am

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NobodyUknow said:

A mosque at ground zero....?

Good Idea or bad...???

It think it's a TERRIBLE idea.

Not only for NY for allowing it but for for Muslims for wanting one there.

It's sends a bad signal all arround 2 me.

What is the point on both parties 4 it? stickpoke

Well if Fox News tells you it is terrible, then it must be terrible. P.S. do you think ALL muslims were behind 9-11? Probably as much as ALL Christians are behind Rev. Fred Phelps, huh!

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Reply #2 posted 06/07/10 11:59am

Mach

Personally ~ I think NOTHING should be built there ~ except perhaps a memorial garden ~ filled with beauty and growth ...

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Reply #3 posted 06/07/10 12:19pm

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Let's not put any religious symbolism there, but that's asking too much.

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Reply #4 posted 06/07/10 12:44pm

Mirabelle

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Personally ~ I think NOTHING should be built there ~ except perhaps a memorial garden ~ filled with beauty and growth ...

Exactly.

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Reply #5 posted 06/07/10 1:51pm

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I am a liberal. I am so liberal I scare my liberal parents. But this is where I draw the line. This whole idea about building a mosque near or on ground zero, is just wrong. This is a terrible idea. I don't like it.

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Reply #6 posted 06/07/10 2:01pm

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[In bad taste snip - luv4u]

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Reply #7 posted 06/07/10 2:19pm

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From what I read there is no mosque being built on ground zero, so why say something that isn't true?

According to news reports the mosque is two blocks away, why not tell the truth so people can have an informed opinion?

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/06/07/2010-06-07_1000_protest_islamic_center_plan.html

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Reply #8 posted 06/07/10 3:51pm

missmad

a buddhist, temple, a mosque, a synogogue, a church etc all in one building would be great.

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Reply #9 posted 06/07/10 6:40pm

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Mach said:

Personally ~ I think NOTHING should be built there ~ except perhaps a memorial garden ~ filled with beauty and growth ...

Good idea

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Reply #10 posted 06/07/10 8:17pm

NobodyUknow

13cjk13 said:

NobodyUknow said:

A mosque at ground zero....?

Good Idea or bad...???

It think it's a TERRIBLE idea.

Not only for NY for allowing it but for for Muslims for wanting one there.

It's sends a bad signal all arround 2 me.

What is the point on both parties 4 it? stickpoke

Well if Fox News tells you it is terrible, then it must be terrible. P.S. do you think ALL muslims were behind 9-11? Probably as much as ALL Christians are behind Rev. Fred Phelps, huh!

Don't get fox news...Don't have cable...even if I did..not my thing.

Do I think all Muslims were behind 9-11??? Ahhhh...no.

What does that have to do with what I asked?confused

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Reply #11 posted 06/07/10 8:17pm

NobodyUknow

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Let's not put any religious symbolism there, but that's asking too much.

I agree^

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Reply #12 posted 06/07/10 8:21pm

Mach

babynoz said:

From what I read there is no mosque being built on ground zero, so why say something that isn't true?

According to news reports the mosque is two blocks away, why not tell the truth so people can have an informed opinion?

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/06/07/2010-06-07_1000_protest_islamic_center_plan.html

True the thread title IS MISLEADING ...

Should say NEAR not AT

"mosque near ground zero"

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Reply #13 posted 06/07/10 8:49pm

missmad

luv4u said:

Mach said:

Personally ~ I think NOTHING should be built there ~ except perhaps a memorial garden ~ filled with beauty and growth ...

Good idea

isn't that the idea they are going with anyway? When they asked people to come up with ideas didn't that idea win?

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Reply #14 posted 06/08/10 1:19pm

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missmad said:

luv4u said:

Good idea

isn't that the idea they are going with anyway? When they asked people to come up with ideas didn't that idea win?

No the plan is to rebuild skyscrapers around a memorial garden.

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Reply #15 posted 06/08/10 2:51pm

missmad

SUPRMAN said:

missmad said:

isn't that the idea they are going with anyway? When they asked people to come up with ideas didn't that idea win?

No the plan is to rebuild skyscrapers around a memorial garden.

oh ok

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Reply #16 posted 06/08/10 2:53pm

levis1

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SUPRMAN said:

No the plan is to rebuild skyscrapers around a memorial garden.

oh ok

could they not use a mobile mosque.. Like an f1 home on the paddock

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Reply #17 posted 06/09/10 1:23am

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NobodyUknow said:

A mosque at ground zero....?

Good Idea or bad...???

It think it's a TERRIBLE idea.

Not only for NY for allowing it but for for Muslims for wanting one there.

It's sends a bad signal all arround 2 me.

What is the point on both parties 4 it? stickpoke

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Terrible? Bad signal?

How so? Explain.

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Reply #18 posted 06/09/10 1:23am

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Mach said:

Personally ~ I think NOTHING should be built there ~ except perhaps a memorial garden ~ filled with beauty and growth ...

Trees and maybe a statue would be nice, I think.

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Reply #19 posted 06/09/10 1:25am

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SUPRMAN said:

missmad said:

isn't that the idea they are going with anyway? When they asked people to come up with ideas didn't that idea win?

No the plan is to rebuild skyscrapers around a memorial garden.

Nice, big tall ones, I bet. confused

Now THAT is a terrible idea.

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Reply #20 posted 06/09/10 1:32am

missmad

meow85 said:

SUPRMAN said:

No the plan is to rebuild skyscrapers around a memorial garden.

Nice, big tall ones, I bet. confused

Now THAT is a terrible idea.

nod rebuilding just to ,god/universe forbid, have them knocked down again, crazy

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Reply #21 posted 06/09/10 1:41am

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missmad said:

meow85 said:

Nice, big tall ones, I bet. confused

Now THAT is a terrible idea.

nod rebuilding just to ,god/universe forbid, have them knocked down again, crazy

Even if another terrorist attack never occurs on the site, to me it seems disrespectful to the victims to just put another building up.

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Reply #22 posted 06/09/10 1:59am

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meow85 said:

missmad said:

nod rebuilding just to ,god/universe forbid, have them knocked down again, crazy

Even if another terrorist attack never occurs on the site, to me it seems disrespectful to the victims to just put another building up.

They don't own the place, so too bad for them...

But anyway, why not just leave it as it is, humans fuck up more than enough on this planet so this could serve as a great a reminder of one their fuck ups...

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Reply #23 posted 06/09/10 2:06am

missmad

meow85 said:

missmad said:

nod rebuilding just to ,god/universe forbid, have them knocked down again, crazy

Even if another terrorist attack never occurs on the site, to me it seems disrespectful to the victims to just put another building up.

yea a constant reminder...

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Reply #24 posted 06/09/10 2:22am

DarlingDiana

If they have enough money to build a mosque, let them. Think of it as a memorial to the 60+ muslim victims of 9/11.

As for what should be done at ground zero (like what we think matters, in reality the highest bidder should get to do whatever they want with that land), those buildings should have been rebuilt years ago. If rebuilding the World Trade Center towers is a constant reminder to the victims' families, so is having a vacant space there. Not only that but the vacant space is also a constant reminder to the terrorists of their "victory". I think the best way to show them they can't defeat us, is to rebuild those towers like nothing happened.

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Reply #25 posted 06/09/10 6:25am

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i live in nyc, and i have no problem with it. there are mosques, synagogues, and churches everywhere in manhattan, so why not a mosque 2 blocks from ground zero? it's not as if people would freak out if someone built a church two blocks from where timothy mcveigh bombed the fed building, so why would this be any different?

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Reply #26 posted 06/09/10 7:26am

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cborgman said:

i live in nyc, and i have no problem with it. there are mosques, synagogues, and churches everywhere in manhattan, so why not a mosque 2 blocks from ground zero? it's not as if people would freak out if someone built a church two blocks from where timothy mcveigh bombed the fed building, so why would this be any different?

nod Yes, exactly. Even if it does seem slightly clunky as a proposal, the sentiment behind it (conciliating tensions, fostering understanding, etc) is to be embraced rather than balked at, surely. What happened there was as much of an offense to Islam as to any other religion, and killed Muslims just as indiscriminately as people of other faiths, and non-believers, so I don't see a reason to reject the idea out of hand on principle.

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Reply #27 posted 06/09/10 7:43am

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Let's not put any religious symbolism there, but that's asking too much.

Or any symbolism at all - e.g. flags, patriotic statues or quotes, all the rhetoric about "heroes"*, etc. I like Mach's idea of just a garden, which is completely inclusive and doesn't 'claim' the tragedy for any one group of people. No way in hell that'll happen though, I suspect.

*Not to deny that there were people who acted heroically on that day (especially the firefighters and ordinary people that helped others bravely), but most people simply had the tragic misfortune of turning up for work or taking a flight on a day when thugs decided to slam an airliner into a building, and I think it's a mistake to try and subsume the horror of that under any jingoistic banner.

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Reply #28 posted 06/09/10 7:59am

2the9s

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in reality the highest bidder should get to do whatever they want with that land

That's the biggest desecration I've heard propsed yet.

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Reply #29 posted 06/09/10 8:14am

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2the9s said:

DarlingDiana said:

in reality the highest bidder should get to do whatever they want with that land

That's the biggest desecration I've heard propsed yet.

Hey, that's unfettered capitalism for you! Money talks, man. It's all that matters.

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