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Reply #180 posted 04/24/19 2:52pm

Hudson

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Death Becomes Her (1992) - I 've never forgotten that huge cardboard cutout promoting this movie in the video store when I was a kid. I was browsing Starz and decided to watch it. It's a mess, but man the cast and cinematography are terrific. If only they spent more time on the story. 5/10

Thelma and Louise (1991) - I've seen the Simpson's episode that was inspired by this, "Marge on the Lam," over 100 times but never saw this. It's terrific, though a little to tragic to be one of my all time favorite movies. 9/10
I don't want to get eaten alive
'cause you're so dangerous
No more hearts I can trust, you see
I don't want to get eaten alive
To be eaten alive
Eaten alive
I don't ever want to be
Eaten alive
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Reply #181 posted 04/25/19 12:24pm

damosuzuki

cold water (1994) 4/5 troubled french teenage couple consider running away together.

perfectly captures moody teenage meloncholia. might leave you feeling dissatisfied in that it's incomplete, a story not fully told, but that's just like real life, isn't it?

has an absolutely great early 70s soundtrack - nico, dylan, donovan, alice cooper...


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Reply #182 posted 04/26/19 10:06pm

Goddess4Real

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Shazam! (2019) Its up there with Aqaman (2019) as my fav film of the year so far. It was funny, it had heart and it was alot of fun. I give it a 4.5 out of 5 popcorn Well done DC clapping


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Reply #183 posted 04/27/19 5:04pm

Hudson

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Shutter Island - Emotional ending saved the film. 7/10

The Royal Tenenbaums - Oustanding. 10/10
I don't want to get eaten alive
'cause you're so dangerous
No more hearts I can trust, you see
I don't want to get eaten alive
To be eaten alive
Eaten alive
I don't ever want to be
Eaten alive
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Reply #184 posted 04/28/19 5:10am

damosuzuki

naked (1993) 5/5

'my feet are on their last legs.'

i wish i had words like that in me.

free-form, rather rudderless, incredibly bleak, but incredibly thrilling, in that it's a film where you truly have no idea where it's going.


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Reply #185 posted 04/28/19 10:07am

onlyforaminute

Searching 4/5
David Kim becomes desperate when his 16-year-old daughter Margot disappears and an immediate police investigation leads nowhere. He soon decides to search the one place that no one else has -- Margot's laptop. Hoping to trace her digital footprints, David contacts her friends and looks at photos and videos for any possible clues to her whereabouts.
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Reply #186 posted 04/29/19 2:42am

TheFman

Cold Pursuit

Liked it a lot. The humour is very dry, the action plenty, and the dead have their own gimmick.

Capitain Marvel

fell a few times asleep, but when I was not, I was awake.

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Reply #187 posted 04/29/19 12:48pm

RodeoSchro

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Y'all are going to hate me. I mean, y'all are going to HATE ME. I might have to change my screen name to this:






Yes, that was a real jersey. It belonged to Rod Smart of the original XFL. The XFL let you put almost anything on your jersey. Smart put "He Hate Me". When asked what that meant, he said, "Basically, my opponent is going to hate me. After I win, he's gonna hate me. It is what it is. It's a saying I was saying when I'd feel something wasn't going my way. For example, (when) I was on the squad in Vegas and coach was putting other guys in, (if) I felt I'm better than them, you know, hey, 'he hate me.' See what I'm saying? Give me a chance. That's all I ask. It came from the heart. Within. The way I felt. I feel as if everyone hates me, from my mom to my dad and even my brothers and sisters everyone "Hates Me". My buddy Greg Kates always used to use it, so I took it from him."

He also said something like, "Look on the sidelines at the other team. See that guy? He hate me. See that other guy? He hate me too. All the guys hate me".

How powerful was "He Hate Me"? Spike Lee made a film called "She Hate Me" which was directly inspired by Smart's jersey name. How many people can say that? None - unless y'all find some football player named "Girl 6".

Anyway, I want to apologize right up front for what I'm about to say. And I want EVERYONE to know that what I'm about to say is spoken for me and me only. It is not meant to judge anyone's tastes, fantasies or dreams.

What I say is how RodeoSchro and only RodeoSchro feels, and RodeoSchro knows others feel differently, and RodeoSchro is fine with that.

Got it?

OK.

What I have to say is:

The Avengers are pretty stupid.

I base this on 30 minutes of "Avengers: The Age of Ultron". Only 30 minutes, you say? Yeah. That was all I could take.

Yesterday, while waiting on the Houston Rockets' NBA playoff game to come on, I perused the channel guide. Pretty much all the cable movie channels had Avengers movies of some type on, clearly hoping to tie into the "Endgame" phenomenon. For some unknown reason, I hit "Enter" on "The Age of Ultron".

Here's where I came in: The Avengers are sitting around a really cool bar/condo/headquarters/I don't know. They're having drinks and telling war stories. It's really pretty cool, TBH.

One dude tells Thor, "Hey man - your hammer is a magic trick. Anyone could pick that thing up, amirite?" Thor says, "Go on with your bad self" or something to that effect.

Dude tries to lift The Hammer of the Gods but can't. Then all the other Avengers dudes try to pick it up, but they can't either. Then Thor picks it up and they all have a good laugh.

But then Robert California from "The Office" shows up in robot form. It turns out Tony Ironman had created Robot Robert California somehow, but Robot Robert California had gone amok. I think.

Robot Robert California had brought with him several imitation Robot Robert Californias and they have a big fight. The Avengers are able to crush the imitation Robot Californias without any of them getting killed (the Avengers, that is). The real Robot Robert California either got away or the Robot Robert California was really just a vessel for the uncatcahble soul of Robert California. I'm not sure which.

At this point I'm sure you're asking, "RodeoSchro, what is with you and all these references to Robert California from 'The Office'? And honestly - who the heck is this Robert California you speak of anyway?"

Fair enough. First of all, Robert California was the character played by James Spader for a season or two on "The Office". Spader played him as an idiot savant and was really good:








Well, Ultron is Robert California. Even down to the movements which, I found out doing my usual extensive research, were actually performed by James Spader. If you are an Avengers fan and you watch the Robert California clip above, you'll know for a dead solid fact that all James Spader did for this movie was reprise his Robert California character.

So that's not good.

Also not good was the fighting. Once you've seen one rocket-powered Iron Man zoom across the screen to body-slam another rocket-powered foe, you've seen pretty much every rocket-powered Iron Man zoomed-up body-slam.

That was when I changed the channel. CGI fights bore me to no end.

I watched this movie not completely out of boredom. I was hoping it would interest me enough to go see "Endgame". It did not.

The way to look at it, I guess, is to say that watching 30 minutes of "Ultron" saved me three hours, probably $150 at the Booze and Chow, and at least one ill-timed pee break. So there's that.

I have to rate "Avengers: Age of Robot Robert California" as 1.5 The Hammer of the Gods is Really Jimmy Page's Les Paul out of 5 The Hammer of the Gods is Really Jimmy Page's Les Paul.

I know you hate me. So does he. He Hate Me. She Hate Me. They Hate Me!

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Reply #188 posted 04/29/19 1:19pm

TheFman

RodeoSchro said:


The Avengers are pretty stupid.

Pretty much agreed, it's the Guardians of the Galaxy what makes the two last Avenger films worthwhile.

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Reply #189 posted 04/29/19 1:31pm

onlyforaminute

RodeoSchro said:

Y'all are going to hate me. I mean, y'all are going to HATE ME. I might have to change my screen name to this:






Yes, that was a real jersey. It belonged to Rod Smart of the original XFL. The XFL let you put almost anything on your jersey. Smart put "He Hate Me". When asked what that meant, he said, "Basically, my opponent is going to hate me. After I win, he's gonna hate me. It is what it is. It's a saying I was saying when I'd feel something wasn't going my way. For example, (when) I was on the squad in Vegas and coach was putting other guys in, (if) I felt I'm better than them, you know, hey, 'he hate me.' See what I'm saying? Give me a chance. That's all I ask. It came from the heart. Within. The way I felt. I feel as if everyone hates me, from my mom to my dad and even my brothers and sisters everyone "Hates Me". My buddy Greg Kates always used to use it, so I took it from him."

He also said something like, "Look on the sidelines at the other team. See that guy? He hate me. See that other guy? He hate me too. All the guys hate me".

How powerful was "He Hate Me"? Spike Lee made a film called "She Hate Me" which was directly inspired by Smart's jersey name. How many people can say that? None - unless y'all find some football player named "Girl 6".

Anyway, I want to apologize right up front for what I'm about to say. And I want EVERYONE to know that what I'm about to say is spoken for me and me only. It is not meant to judge anyone's tastes, fantasies or dreams.

What I say is how RodeoSchro and only RodeoSchro feels, and RodeoSchro knows others feel differently, and RodeoSchro is fine with that.

Got it?

OK.

What I have to say is:

The Avengers are pretty stupid.

I base this on 30 minutes of "Avengers: The Age of Ultron". Only 30 minutes, you say? Yeah. That was all I could take.

Yesterday, while waiting on the Houston Rockets' NBA playoff game to come on, I perused the channel guide. Pretty much all the cable movie channels had Avengers movies of some type on, clearly hoping to tie into the "Endgame" phenomenon. For some unknown reason, I hit "Enter" on "The Age of Ultron".

Here's where I came in: The Avengers are sitting around a really cool bar/condo/headquarters/I don't know. They're having drinks and telling war stories. It's really pretty cool, TBH.

One dude tells Thor, "Hey man - your hammer is a magic trick. Anyone could pick that thing up, amirite?" Thor says, "Go on with your bad self" or something to that effect.

Dude tries to lift The Hammer of the Gods but can't. Then all the other Avengers dudes try to pick it up, but they can't either. Then Thor picks it up and they all have a good laugh.

But then Robert California from "The Office" shows up in robot form. It turns out Tony Ironman had created Robot Robert California somehow, but Robot Robert California had gone amok. I think.

Robot Robert California had brought with him several imitation Robot Robert Californias and they have a big fight. The Avengers are able to crush the imitation Robot Californias without any of them getting killed (the Avengers, that is). The real Robot Robert California either got away or the Robot Robert California was really just a vessel for the uncatcahble soul of Robert California. I'm not sure which.

At this point I'm sure you're asking, "RodeoSchro, what is with you and all these references to Robert California from 'The Office'? And honestly - who the heck is this Robert California you speak of anyway?"

Fair enough. First of all, Robert California was the character played by James Spader for a season or two on "The Office". Spader played him as an idiot savant and was really good:








Well, Ultron is Robert California. Even down to the movements which, I found out doing my usual extensive research, were actually performed by James Spader. If you are an Avengers fan and you watch the Robert California clip above, you'll know for a dead solid fact that all James Spader did for this movie was reprise his Robert California character.

So that's not good.

Also not good was the fighting. Once you've seen one rocket-powered Iron Man zoom across the screen to body-slam another rocket-powered foe, you've seen pretty much every rocket-powered Iron Man zoomed-up body-slam.

That was when I changed the channel. CGI fights bore me to no end.

I watched this movie not completely out of boredom. I was hoping it would interest me enough to go see "Endgame". It did not.

The way to look at it, I guess, is to say that watching 30 minutes of "Ultron" saved me three hours, probably $150 at the Booze and Chow, and at least one ill-timed pee break. So there's that.

I have to rate "Avengers: Age of Robot Robert California" as 1.5 The Hammer of the Gods is Really Jimmy Page's Les Paul out of 5 The Hammer of the Gods is Really Jimmy Page's Les Paul.

I know you hate me. So does he. He Hate Me. She Hate Me. They Hate Me!




I'm mad cause my normal theater doesn't have booze yet. Then again maybe it's for the best
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Reply #190 posted 04/29/19 1:44pm

RodeoSchro

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Wow! I was reading a review of "Endgame" for some reason and it referenced the one and only good Avengers scene I've ever seen! This one:




I also forgot to say - WHY DID SCARLETT JOHANSSEN SMOKE 649,206 CIGARETTES?

My gosh. I haven't heard a voice that tobacco-racked since Michael Douglas. YUCK.




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[Edited 4/29/19 13:45pm]

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Reply #191 posted 04/29/19 1:47pm

RodeoSchro

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onlyforaminute said:

RodeoSchro said:

Y'all are going to hate me. I mean, y'all are going to HATE ME. I might have to change my screen name to this:






Yes, that was a real jersey. It belonged to Rod Smart of the original XFL. The XFL let you put almost anything on your jersey. Smart put "He Hate Me". When asked what that meant, he said, "Basically, my opponent is going to hate me. After I win, he's gonna hate me. It is what it is. It's a saying I was saying when I'd feel something wasn't going my way. For example, (when) I was on the squad in Vegas and coach was putting other guys in, (if) I felt I'm better than them, you know, hey, 'he hate me.' See what I'm saying? Give me a chance. That's all I ask. It came from the heart. Within. The way I felt. I feel as if everyone hates me, from my mom to my dad and even my brothers and sisters everyone "Hates Me". My buddy Greg Kates always used to use it, so I took it from him."

He also said something like, "Look on the sidelines at the other team. See that guy? He hate me. See that other guy? He hate me too. All the guys hate me".

How powerful was "He Hate Me"? Spike Lee made a film called "She Hate Me" which was directly inspired by Smart's jersey name. How many people can say that? None - unless y'all find some football player named "Girl 6".

Anyway, I want to apologize right up front for what I'm about to say. And I want EVERYONE to know that what I'm about to say is spoken for me and me only. It is not meant to judge anyone's tastes, fantasies or dreams.

What I say is how RodeoSchro and only RodeoSchro feels, and RodeoSchro knows others feel differently, and RodeoSchro is fine with that.

Got it?

OK.

What I have to say is:

The Avengers are pretty stupid.

I base this on 30 minutes of "Avengers: The Age of Ultron". Only 30 minutes, you say? Yeah. That was all I could take.

Yesterday, while waiting on the Houston Rockets' NBA playoff game to come on, I perused the channel guide. Pretty much all the cable movie channels had Avengers movies of some type on, clearly hoping to tie into the "Endgame" phenomenon. For some unknown reason, I hit "Enter" on "The Age of Ultron".

Here's where I came in: The Avengers are sitting around a really cool bar/condo/headquarters/I don't know. They're having drinks and telling war stories. It's really pretty cool, TBH.

One dude tells Thor, "Hey man - your hammer is a magic trick. Anyone could pick that thing up, amirite?" Thor says, "Go on with your bad self" or something to that effect.

Dude tries to lift The Hammer of the Gods but can't. Then all the other Avengers dudes try to pick it up, but they can't either. Then Thor picks it up and they all have a good laugh.

But then Robert California from "The Office" shows up in robot form. It turns out Tony Ironman had created Robot Robert California somehow, but Robot Robert California had gone amok. I think.

Robot Robert California had brought with him several imitation Robot Robert Californias and they have a big fight. The Avengers are able to crush the imitation Robot Californias without any of them getting killed (the Avengers, that is). The real Robot Robert California either got away or the Robot Robert California was really just a vessel for the uncatcahble soul of Robert California. I'm not sure which.

At this point I'm sure you're asking, "RodeoSchro, what is with you and all these references to Robert California from 'The Office'? And honestly - who the heck is this Robert California you speak of anyway?"

Fair enough. First of all, Robert California was the character played by James Spader for a season or two on "The Office". Spader played him as an idiot savant and was really good:








Well, Ultron is Robert California. Even down to the movements which, I found out doing my usual extensive research, were actually performed by James Spader. If you are an Avengers fan and you watch the Robert California clip above, you'll know for a dead solid fact that all James Spader did for this movie was reprise his Robert California character.

So that's not good.

Also not good was the fighting. Once you've seen one rocket-powered Iron Man zoom across the screen to body-slam another rocket-powered foe, you've seen pretty much every rocket-powered Iron Man zoomed-up body-slam.

That was when I changed the channel. CGI fights bore me to no end.

I watched this movie not completely out of boredom. I was hoping it would interest me enough to go see "Endgame". It did not.

The way to look at it, I guess, is to say that watching 30 minutes of "Ultron" saved me three hours, probably $150 at the Booze and Chow, and at least one ill-timed pee break. So there's that.

I have to rate "Avengers: Age of Robot Robert California" as 1.5 The Hammer of the Gods is Really Jimmy Page's Les Paul out of 5 The Hammer of the Gods is Really Jimmy Page's Les Paul.

I know you hate me. So does he. He Hate Me. She Hate Me. They Hate Me!

I'm mad cause my normal theater doesn't have booze yet. Then again maybe it's for the best




I hope you're Sticking It To The Man and sneaking in booze.

Booze makes almost everything better. It certainly makes most movies a LOT better.

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Reply #192 posted 04/29/19 4:16pm

onlyforaminute

RodeoSchro said:



onlyforaminute said:


RodeoSchro said:

Y'all are going to hate me. I mean, y'all are going to HATE ME. I might have to change my screen name to this:






Yes, that was a real jersey. It belonged to Rod Smart of the original XFL. The XFL let you put almost anything on your jersey. Smart put "He Hate Me". When asked what that meant, he said, "Basically, my opponent is going to hate me. After I win, he's gonna hate me. It is what it is. It's a saying I was saying when I'd feel something wasn't going my way. For example, (when) I was on the squad in Vegas and coach was putting other guys in, (if) I felt I'm better than them, you know, hey, 'he hate me.' See what I'm saying? Give me a chance. That's all I ask. It came from the heart. Within. The way I felt. I feel as if everyone hates me, from my mom to my dad and even my brothers and sisters everyone "Hates Me". My buddy Greg Kates always used to use it, so I took it from him."

He also said something like, "Look on the sidelines at the other team. See that guy? He hate me. See that other guy? He hate me too. All the guys hate me".

How powerful was "He Hate Me"? Spike Lee made a film called "She Hate Me" which was directly inspired by Smart's jersey name. How many people can say that? None - unless y'all find some football player named "Girl 6".

Anyway, I want to apologize right up front for what I'm about to say. And I want EVERYONE to know that what I'm about to say is spoken for me and me only. It is not meant to judge anyone's tastes, fantasies or dreams.

What I say is how RodeoSchro and only RodeoSchro feels, and RodeoSchro knows others feel differently, and RodeoSchro is fine with that.

Got it?

OK.

What I have to say is:

The Avengers are pretty stupid.

I base this on 30 minutes of "Avengers: The Age of Ultron". Only 30 minutes, you say? Yeah. That was all I could take.

Yesterday, while waiting on the Houston Rockets' NBA playoff game to come on, I perused the channel guide. Pretty much all the cable movie channels had Avengers movies of some type on, clearly hoping to tie into the "Endgame" phenomenon. For some unknown reason, I hit "Enter" on "The Age of Ultron".

Here's where I came in: The Avengers are sitting around a really cool bar/condo/headquarters/I don't know. They're having drinks and telling war stories. It's really pretty cool, TBH.

One dude tells Thor, "Hey man - your hammer is a magic trick. Anyone could pick that thing up, amirite?" Thor says, "Go on with your bad self" or something to that effect.

Dude tries to lift The Hammer of the Gods but can't. Then all the other Avengers dudes try to pick it up, but they can't either. Then Thor picks it up and they all have a good laugh.

But then Robert California from "The Office" shows up in robot form. It turns out Tony Ironman had created Robot Robert California somehow, but Robot Robert California had gone amok. I think.

Robot Robert California had brought with him several imitation Robot Robert Californias and they have a big fight. The Avengers are able to crush the imitation Robot Californias without any of them getting killed (the Avengers, that is). The real Robot Robert California either got away or the Robot Robert California was really just a vessel for the uncatcahble soul of Robert California. I'm not sure which.

At this point I'm sure you're asking, "RodeoSchro, what is with you and all these references to Robert California from 'The Office'? And honestly - who the heck is this Robert California you speak of anyway?"

Fair enough. First of all, Robert California was the character played by James Spader for a season or two on "The Office". Spader played him as an idiot savant and was really good:








Well, Ultron is Robert California. Even down to the movements which, I found out doing my usual extensive research, were actually performed by James Spader. If you are an Avengers fan and you watch the Robert California clip above, you'll know for a dead solid fact that all James Spader did for this movie was reprise his Robert California character.

So that's not good.

Also not good was the fighting. Once you've seen one rocket-powered Iron Man zoom across the screen to body-slam another rocket-powered foe, you've seen pretty much every rocket-powered Iron Man zoomed-up body-slam.

That was when I changed the channel. CGI fights bore me to no end.

I watched this movie not completely out of boredom. I was hoping it would interest me enough to go see "Endgame". It did not.

The way to look at it, I guess, is to say that watching 30 minutes of "Ultron" saved me three hours, probably $150 at the Booze and Chow, and at least one ill-timed pee break. So there's that.

I have to rate "Avengers: Age of Robot Robert California" as 1.5 The Hammer of the Gods is Really Jimmy Page's Les Paul out of 5 The Hammer of the Gods is Really Jimmy Page's Les Paul.

I know you hate me. So does he. He Hate Me. She Hate Me. They Hate Me!



I'm mad cause my normal theater doesn't have booze yet. Then again maybe it's for the best




I hope you're Sticking It To The Man and sneaking in booze.

Booze makes almost everything better. It certainly makes most movies a LOT better.




Naw I don't need issues with open containers in my vehicle or whatever the laws here are about that kind of stuff i ain't that kind of a rebel besides its the ritual i enjoy. I always buy at least a bucket of soda or water snuggle up in my seat and enjoy the show and drink half or all depending and chill. That's going to the movies to me. This last time didn't work like that and I'm hurt, I missed my ritual.
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Reply #193 posted 04/29/19 5:42pm

TheFman

Avengers Endgame

Baaah, boring stuff, really stupid. Infinity wars was 100 times better than this infantile idea.

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Reply #194 posted 04/30/19 6:04am

RodeoSchro

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onlyforaminute said:

RodeoSchro said:




I hope you're Sticking It To The Man and sneaking in booze.

Booze makes almost everything better. It certainly makes most movies a LOT better.

Naw I don't need issues with open containers in my vehicle or whatever the laws here are about that kind of stuff i ain't that kind of a rebel besides its the ritual i enjoy. I always buy at least a bucket of soda or water snuggle up in my seat and enjoy the show and drink half or all depending and chill. That's going to the movies to me. This last time didn't work like that and I'm hurt, I missed my ritual.




Then this is for you!

http://runpee.com/

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Reply #195 posted 04/30/19 12:24pm

onlyforaminute

RodeoSchro said:



onlyforaminute said:


RodeoSchro said:





I hope you're Sticking It To The Man and sneaking in booze.

Booze makes almost everything better. It certainly makes most movies a LOT better.



Naw I don't need issues with open containers in my vehicle or whatever the laws here are about that kind of stuff i ain't that kind of a rebel besides its the ritual i enjoy. I always buy at least a bucket of soda or water snuggle up in my seat and enjoy the show and drink half or all depending and chill. That's going to the movies to me. This last time didn't work like that and I'm hurt, I missed my ritual.




Then this is for you!

http://runpee.com/






lol

It hasn't been an issue yet but one maybe.
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Reply #196 posted 04/30/19 3:47pm

Hudson

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Would you pay extra for theaters that had these seats?

I don't want to get eaten alive
'cause you're so dangerous
No more hearts I can trust, you see
I don't want to get eaten alive
To be eaten alive
Eaten alive
I don't ever want to be
Eaten alive
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Reply #197 posted 04/30/19 4:43pm

RodeoSchro

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Hudson said:

Would you pay extra for theaters that had these seats?




falloff

I wouldn't GO to a theater that had those!

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Reply #198 posted 04/30/19 6:01pm

kewlschool

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RodeoSchro said:

Hudson said:

Would you pay extra for theaters that had these seats?




falloff

I wouldn't GO to a theater that had those!

Neither would I. I'm not sitting next to someone taking a crap.

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #199 posted 04/30/19 9:52pm

onlyforaminute

kewlschool said:



RodeoSchro said:




Hudson said:


Would you pay extra for theaters that had these seats?






falloff

I wouldn't GO to a theater that had those!



Neither would I. I'm not sitting next to someone taking a crap.



Exactly.
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