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NBA: Derek Fisher FIRED as Knicks Coach

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... story.html

Oh happy day! Thibodeau would be my choice, but Knicks will never hire him. He's not one of Phil's guys, he won't take crap from Dolan, and he won't run that stupid triangle.

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Reply #1 posted 02/09/16 7:18am

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uPtoWnNY said:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... story.html

Oh happy day! Thibodeau would be my choice, but Knicks will never hire him. He's not one of Phil's guys, he won't take crap from Dolan, and he won't run that stupid triangle.

What is stupid about an offnese that has won 11 titles?

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Reply #2 posted 02/09/16 7:51am

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I read about it yesterday and to my knowledge, for I don't keep up with basketball, he sucks as a coach because of inexperience and that karma is coming back on him for messing around with his once good friend's Matt Barnes wife and he's also married, so that hurts her, too.
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Reply #3 posted 02/09/16 8:43am

uPtoWnNY

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... story.html

Oh happy day! Thibodeau would be my choice, but Knicks will never hire him. He's not one of Phil's guys, he won't take crap from Dolan, and he won't run that stupid triangle.

What is stupid about an offnese that has won 11 titles?

It's not about the system, but the players. Last I checked, Jordan, Pippen, Shaq & Kobe aren't on the Knicks roster. It ticks me off Phil's only hiring one of his triangle guys. I want Thibs.

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Reply #4 posted 02/09/16 8:46am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

What is stupid about an offnese that has won 11 titles?

It's not about the system, but the players. Last I checked, Jordan, Pippen, Shaq & Kobe aren't on the Knicks roster. It ticks me off Phil's only hiring one of his triangle guys. I want Thibs.

Thibs is one dimensional.............and thinks that winning preseason games means something.

You won't win anything with Thibs as your head coach. He coaches every game like it's his last.

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Reply #5 posted 02/09/16 11:56pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... story.html

Oh happy day! Thibodeau would be my choice, but Knicks will never hire him. He's not one of Phil's guys, he won't take crap from Dolan, and he won't run that stupid triangle.


I think the real problem is that for two years in a row most players on the NY Knicks roster are too stupid to understand what a triangle is. lol

It just like what Dennis Rodman said back in 2015: It's a freaking triangle! It's not complicated at all.

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Reply #6 posted 02/10/16 12:05am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

What is stupid about an offnese that has won 11 titles?

It's not about the system, but the players. Last I checked, Jordan, Pippen, Shaq & Kobe aren't on the Knicks roster. It ticks me off Phil's only hiring one of his triangle guys. I want Thibs.


The only real mistake Phil Jackson made thus far is NOT trading Camelo Anthony out of NYC.

And I'm not joking. That dude will NEVER be a A+ player of a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, or even Stephen Curry for that matter. In my professional opinion, Camelo Anthony is nothing more than an B- player.

Yes, I say it! nod

[Edited 2/10/16 0:06am]

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Reply #7 posted 02/10/16 5:50am

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TonyVanDam said:

uPtoWnNY said:

It's not about the system, but the players. Last I checked, Jordan, Pippen, Shaq & Kobe aren't on the Knicks roster. It ticks me off Phil's only hiring one of his triangle guys. I want Thibs.


The only real mistake Phil Jackson made thus far is NOT trading Camelo Anthony out of NYC.

And I'm not joking. That dude will NEVER be a A+ player of a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, or even Stephen Curry for that matter. In my professional opinion, Camelo Anthony is nothing more than an B- player.

Yes, I say it! nod

[Edited 2/10/16 0:06am]

Carmelo has a no-trade clause in his contract that Phil agreed to.

Knicks have been a joke for the past 15 years no matter who's in charge.

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Reply #8 posted 02/10/16 6:07am

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uPtoWnNY said:

TonyVanDam said:


The only real mistake Phil Jackson made thus far is NOT trading Camelo Anthony out of NYC.

And I'm not joking. That dude will NEVER be a A+ player of a Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, or even Stephen Curry for that matter. In my professional opinion, Camelo Anthony is nothing more than an B- player.

Yes, I say it! nod

[Edited 2/10/16 0:06am]

Carmelo has a no-trade clause in his contract that Phil agreed to.

Knicks have been a joke for the past 15 years no matter who's in charge.

Are you including Phil in that comment?

He has only been there 2 seasons.

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Reply #9 posted 02/10/16 6:33am

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Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

It's not about the system, but the players. Last I checked, Jordan, Pippen, Shaq & Kobe aren't on the Knicks roster. It ticks me off Phil's only hiring one of his triangle guys. I want Thibs.

Thibs is one dimensional.............and thinks that winning preseason games means something.

You won't win anything with Thibs as your head coach. He coaches every game like it's his last.

I don't know about that Gray. Chicago's defense was tenacious with

Thibs. They were the one team in the East that gave the Miami heat

fits with or without Rose. Boston during the Pierce-Garnett-Allen

era were tough defensively when he was an assistant. They consistently

won 50 games with Thibs as coach. I would take him in Philly. No

disrespect to Brett Brown.

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Reply #10 posted 02/10/16 7:43am

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phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:

Thibs is one dimensional.............and thinks that winning preseason games means something.

You won't win anything with Thibs as your head coach. He coaches every game like it's his last.

I don't know about that Gray. Chicago's defense was tenacious with

Thibs. They were the one team in the East that gave the Miami heat

fits with or without Rose. Boston during the Pierce-Garnett-Allen

era were tough defensively when he was an assistant. They consistently

won 50 games with Thibs as coach. I would take him in Philly. No

disrespect to Brett Brown.

.......and exactly what did they win with Thibs? N O T H I N G


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Reply #11 posted 02/10/16 8:27am

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Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow ... story.html

Oh happy day! Thibodeau would be my choice, but Knicks will never hire him. He's not one of Phil's guys, he won't take crap from Dolan, and he won't run that stupid triangle.

What is stupid about an offnese that has won 11 titles?


Agreed. The thing about the Triangle is that it can be tailored to the dominant player regardless of position and generates openings for shooters. MJ, Pip, Shaq, Kobe and Pau all thrived in it.

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Reply #12 posted 02/10/16 12:30pm

uPtoWnNY

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Carmelo has a no-trade clause in his contract that Phil agreed to.

Knicks have been a joke for the past 15 years no matter who's in charge.

Are you including Phil in that comment?

He has only been there 2 seasons.

So far, the only bright spot in Phil's tenure is Porzingis.

I guarantee you Phil's opting out once the season's over.

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Reply #13 posted 02/10/16 12:46pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

Are you including Phil in that comment?

He has only been there 2 seasons.

So far, the only bright spot in Phil's tenure is Porzingis.

I guarantee you Phil's opting out once the season's over.

I'm putting my money on Phil as the Knick coach.

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Reply #14 posted 02/10/16 1:10pm

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The Knicks organization have been dysfunctional for a minute. Hiring an inexperienced rookie coach didn't help matters... Fisher was setup to run before he learned how to walk. I don't think Phil is up to being a head coach again... physically or mentally.

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Reply #15 posted 02/10/16 1:34pm

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The Knicks organization have been dysfunctional for a minute. Hiring an inexperienced rookie coach didn't help matters... Fisher was setup to run before he learned how to walk. I don't think Phil is up to being a head coach again... physically or mentally.

You are probably correct but we shall see.

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Reply #16 posted 02/10/16 3:19pm

uPtoWnNY

Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

So far, the only bright spot in Phil's tenure is Porzingis.

I guarantee you Phil's opting out once the season's over.

I'm putting my money on Phil as the Knick coach.

Not with his health issues.

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Reply #17 posted 02/22/16 1:58pm

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Graycap23 said:



phunkdaddy said:




Graycap23 said:



Thibs is one dimensional.....and thinks that winning preseason games means something.


You won't win anything with Thibs as your head coach. He coaches every game like it's his last.




I don't know about that Gray. Chicago's defense was tenacious with


Thibs. They were the one team in the East that gave the Miami heat


fits with or without Rose. Boston during the Pierce-Garnett-Allen


era were tough defensively when he was an assistant. They consistently


won 50 games with Thibs as coach. I would take him in Philly. No


disrespect to Brett Brown.



.....and exactly what did they win with Thibs? N O T H I N G





The Eastern Conference Finals twice. Name one other Chicago coach since
Phil Jackson who has gotten them that far. I'll start the timer.
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Reply #18 posted 02/22/16 5:03pm

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I read about it yesterday and to my knowledge, for I don't keep up with basketball, he sucks as a coach because of inexperience and that karma is coming back on him for messing around with his once good friend's Matt Barnes wife and he's also married, so that hurts her, too.


Lost all respect for him after that Matt Barnes incident.
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Reply #19 posted 02/22/16 6:25pm

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phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:



phunkdaddy said:




Graycap23 said:



Thibs is one dimensional.....and thinks that winning preseason games means something.


You won't win anything with Thibs as your head coach. He coaches every game like it's his last.




I don't know about that Gray. Chicago's defense was tenacious with


Thibs. They were the one team in the East that gave the Miami heat


fits with or without Rose. Boston during the Pierce-Garnett-Allen


era were tough defensively when he was an assistant. They consistently


won 50 games with Thibs as coach. I would take him in Philly. No


disrespect to Brett Brown.



.....and exactly what did they win with Thibs? N O T H I N G





The Eastern Conference Finals twice. Name one other Chicago coach since
Phil Jackson who has gotten them that far. I'll start the timer.

Lol.....what are u talking about? The Bulls have won 1 east conference finals game since 1998. One game.
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Reply #20 posted 02/23/16 6:39am

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Graycap23 said:

phunkdaddy said:



The Eastern Conference Finals twice. Name one other Chicago coach since
Phil Jackson who has gotten them that far. I'll start the timer.

Lol.....what are u talking about? The Bulls have won 1 east conference finals game since 1998. One game.


No dude. I wasn't implying they won the East Finals twice especially with them
having to go through the Bron-Wade led Miami Heat. I was saying he took them to the conference finals once or twice and consistently won 50 games often times
with a injury depleted roster.
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Reply #21 posted 02/23/16 6:42am

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phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:
Lol.....what are u talking about? The Bulls have won 1 east conference finals game since 1998. One game.
No dude. I wasn't implying they won the East Finals twice especially with them having to go through the Bron-Wade led Miami Heat. I was saying he took them to the conference finals once or twice and consistently won 50 games often times with a injury depleted roster.

That isn't an accomplishment in my book.

Thibs is a decent coach but I hightly doubt that you will ever see him get a team to a title with him as a head coach. He is stubborn and extremely limited as a head coach.

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Reply #22 posted 02/23/16 12:49pm

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Damn, this shit about Delonte west is fucked up....dude had no shoes on;

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ex-nba ... =rss&rss=1

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Reply #23 posted 02/24/16 1:41pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

What is stupid about an offnese that has won 11 titles?

It's not about the system, but the players. Last I checked, Jordan, Pippen, Shaq & Kobe aren't on the Knicks roster. It ticks me off Phil's only hiring one of his triangle guys. I want Thibs.


Playing in a non-Triangle system, all of those HOFers went to a total of 1 NBA Finals, and won a combined total of one title.

The Triangle maximized team offensive efficiency and individual scoring for those players,each of whom played different positions.

Sure, it's more about Billys and Joes than x's and o's, but the Triangle isn't a stupid offense. Almost every NBA champion needs elite players and coaching, but half of the titles in the last 25 years were won using the Triangle.

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Reply #24 posted 02/24/16 1:49pm

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namepeace said:

uPtoWnNY said:

It's not about the system, but the players. Last I checked, Jordan, Pippen, Shaq & Kobe aren't on the Knicks roster. It ticks me off Phil's only hiring one of his triangle guys. I want Thibs.


Playing in a non-Triangle system, all of those HOFers went to a total of 1 NBA Finals, and won a combined total of one title.

The Triangle maximized team offensive efficiency and individual scoring for those players,each of whom played different positions.

Sure, it's more about Billys and Joes than x's and o's, but the Triangle isn't a stupid offense. Almost every NBA champion needs elite players and coaching, but half of the titles in the last 25 years were won using the Triangle.

Bingo.

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