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Info:Microsoft 7 & 8.1 Users

As of Feb 1, 2016

Microsoft, will no longer give you the option of upgradeing to Windows 10's. Instead, Microsoft is recommending you upgrade to Windows 10. What is the difference?

If a PC is set to install recommended updates automatically then Windows 10 will be downloaded and the installation could then start once the download is complete.

This is what you need to do.

1. Un-install KB 3035583. It is the update responsible for the Windows 10 notification.

2. Turn automatic updates off. Check for updates every second Tuesday of a month after 9:00 AM Pacific Time.

Windows 10 and its new web-browser the "Edge", are still a work in progress. Still, Win 10 is nothing but spyware. Windows 7 Pro computers can still be purchased until Nov. 2016.

Windows' 7 support ends, 2020. Window's 8.1 supports ends 2023

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Reply #1 posted 02/02/16 2:51pm

babynoz

Wtf? Who the hell do these people think they are and why are we the people not taking back our power? disbelief

Thanks for the heads up TD. Don't know what we'd do without folks like you.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #2 posted 02/02/16 2:53pm

babynoz

Un-install KB 3035583

Where do I find it? eek

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Reply #3 posted 02/02/16 3:17pm

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babynoz said:

Wtf? Who the hell do these people think they are and why are we the people not taking back our power? disbelief

Thanks for the heads up TD. Don't know what we'd do without folks like you.

Your welcome.

Microsoft's bullying tatics have been reprehensible. What Microsoft basically doing is tacking advantage of their customers.... many of whom may not be computer illiterate but are uninformed

the tricky was Mircosoft is trying to make you install Windows 10. If Microsoft were for the right thing, Windows 10's would stay an options and in the Optional update (Updates) catagory and clearly define as such.

What I do know...

The older a computer is (with Win 7 OS) the more likelyhood you may have issues with Windows 10.

If you don't see Windows' 10 options among recommend downloads yet... Microsoft is probably staggering its release. Even so, follow the directions above to be premeptive.

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Reply #4 posted 02/02/16 3:44pm

Adorecream

Thanks for that info, I originally upgraded to Windows 10 last November, but found it kept crashing and freezing due to bugs. Downgrading last month back to 8.1, I have had no problems with the computer since.

Microsoft sucks overall, their technology is bug laden and people like me with the entry level model computers always suffer the most.
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Reply #5 posted 02/02/16 4:02pm

TonyVanDam

babynoz said:

Wtf? Who the hell do these people think they are and why are we the people not taking back our power? disbelief

Thanks for the heads up TD. Don't know what we'd do without folks like you.


Now you know why I called that company the Microsoft Plantation! lol

If you want freedom, learn to use Linux or BSD. cool

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Reply #6 posted 02/02/16 4:21pm

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babynoz said:

Un-install KB 3035583

Where do I find it? eek

Do this, for now.

Windwos 10

In Windows 7, go to Start > Control Panel > System and Security > Windows Update. Click the Change settings link on the left.

Look for the Recommended updates entry and make sure it’s unchecked. Click OK.

Windows 8.1

In Windows 8.1 you can either follow the same steps listed above, or you can go through the PC Settings app. Go to Settings > Update and recovery > Windows update and select Choose how updates get installed. Uncheck the Recommended Updates box and click Apply.

Windows 10 will still appear as an available update, but it won’t be automatically installed now.

Finally, right-click on the Windows 10 update, and select Hide Update to make sure you don't install it by mistake.

I'll be back to tell you how to Un-install KB 3035583.

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Reply #7 posted 02/02/16 5:35pm

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babynoz said:

Un-install KB 3035583

Where do I find it? eek

Control Panel >>>>> System and Security.

over your right you should see

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Windows Update >>>> click on "View Installed Updates"

look for KB 3035583 right click to un-install, double-check

this make take a minute but don't turn off your computer.

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Reply #8 posted 02/02/16 5:40pm

babynoz

TD3 said:

babynoz said:

Un-install KB 3035583

Where do I find it? eek

Control Panel >>>>> System and Security.

over your right you should see

i


Windows Update >>>> click on "View Installed Updates"

look for KB 3035583 right click to un-install, double-check

this make take a minute but don't turn off your computer.



Thanks, I'm checking it out right now.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #9 posted 02/02/16 5:41pm

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TonyVanDam said:

babynoz said:

Wtf? Who the hell do these people think they are and why are we the people not taking back our power? disbelief

Thanks for the heads up TD. Don't know what we'd do without folks like you.


Now you know why I called that company the Microsoft Plantation! lol

If you want freedom, learn to use Linux or BSD. cool

lol Yes you have. lol

Old Windows, you were a share-croppter

Windows 10, you are a slave.

lol

Linux community needs to double slapped for beening inept.... Windows have fucked up times in row, yet Linux is on the sidelines. mad

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Reply #10 posted 02/02/16 6:00pm

babynoz

TD3 said:

TonyVanDam said:


Now you know why I called that company the Microsoft Plantation! lol

If you want freedom, learn to use Linux or BSD. cool

lol Yes you have. lol

Old Windows, you were a share-croppter

Windows 10, you are a slave.

lol

Linux community needs to double slapped for beening inept.... Windows have fucked up times in row, yet Linux is on the sidelines. mad


Believe you me, my next machine will be a clean one. The ones I have were already set to notify me to decide whether to install updates.

I seldom install any of the updates listed over the years because I have an innate distrust of microsoft already. lol I did find that update in the ready to install list and I didn't install it.

How long before uninstalled updates go away?

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #11 posted 02/02/16 6:10pm

Adorecream

babynoz said:

TD3 said:

lol Yes you have. lol

Old Windows, you were a share-croppter

Windows 10, you are a slave.

lol

Linux community needs to double slapped for beening inept.... Windows have fucked up times in row, yet Linux is on the sidelines. mad


Believe you me, my next machine will be a clean one. The ones I have were already set to notify me to decide whether to install updates.

I seldom install any of the updates listed over the years because I have an innate distrust of microsoft already. lol I did find that update in the ready to install list and I didn't install it.

How long before uninstalled updates go away?

A long time, they are still hyping a silverlight update, that was there when I got my computer 13 months ago and had been there 3 years on my previous machine.

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I only ever use Chrome now as Internet Explorer is so bug laden its not true.

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Reply #12 posted 02/02/16 6:13pm

babynoz

Adorecream said:

babynoz said:


Believe you me, my next machine will be a clean one. The ones I have were already set to notify me to decide whether to install updates.

I seldom install any of the updates listed over the years because I have an innate distrust of microsoft already. lol I did find that update in the ready to install list and I didn't install it.

How long before uninstalled updates go away?

A long time, they are still hyping a silverlight update, that was there when I got my computer 13 months ago and had been there 3 years on my previous machine.

.

I only ever use Chrome now as Internet Explorer is so bug laden its not true.



I stopped using IE a few years ago. I'm doing firefox and opera now.

My desktop is nearly ten years old but my laptop is going on four years old.

I have to check to see if that update is on my old desktop before I forget.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #13 posted 02/02/16 6:16pm

TD3

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babynoz said:

TD3 said:

lol Yes you have. lol

Old Windows, you were a share-croppter

Windows 10, you are a slave.

lol

Linux community needs to double slapped for being inept.... Windows have fucked up times in row, yet Linux is on the sidelines. mad


Believe you me, my next machine will be a clean one. The ones I have were already set to notify me to decide whether to install updates.

I seldom install any of the updates listed over the years because I have an innate distrust of microsoft already. lol I did find that update in the ready to install list and I didn't install it.

How long before uninstalled updates go away?

It depends... lol Microsoft have different rules for Home, Pro and Enterprise customers. I'm a Win Pro.

I'd like to assume since Windows 10 is suppose to a "choice", once its un-installed KB 3035583 your are done. Microsoft has already said, they will be very aggresiive in pushing Windows 10 upgrade; don't be surprised if you don't see again amongst your Microsoft Updates.

As far a manually updating...

What I've done since Vista. I take the time to research recommended and optional updates. In most instances, the option to know more about an update can be found in the right field of the update box.

Sometimes Microsoft is vague... I then copy and past the update in search to get more info from the Geeks.

They have some update know in options that speak of Window 10... they'll be there to hell freezes over and I can skate.


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Reply #14 posted 02/02/16 6:21pm

babynoz

TD3 said:

babynoz said:


Believe you me, my next machine will be a clean one. The ones I have were already set to notify me to decide whether to install updates.

I seldom install any of the updates listed over the years because I have an innate distrust of microsoft already. lol I did find that update in the ready to install list and I didn't install it.

How long before uninstalled updates go away?

It depends... lol Microsoft have different rules for Home, Pro and Enterprise customers. I'm a Win Pro.

I'd like to assume since Windows 10 is suppose to a "choice", once its un-installed KB 3035583 your are done. Microsoft has already said, they will be very aggresiive in pushing Windows 10 upgrade; don't be surprised if you don't see again amongst your Microsoft Updates.

As far a manually updating...

What I've done since Vista. I take the time to research recommended and optional updates. In most instances, the option to know more about an update can be found on the right had site in update box.

Sometimes Microsoft is vague., I then copy and past the update in search get more info from the Geeks what an update do or doesn't do. Its a damn shame its come to this but there it is.



Some of those updates seem to stay on the list forever. lol The first thing I do is uncheck all the boxes then I go through the list to see what the update is and the file size. I even stopped installing the malicious software removal tool because it screwed up my system all the time. I hate microsoft.

In order for me to delete the update you mentioned I would have to install it first. Is it better to just uncheck it and wait for it to go away?

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #15 posted 02/02/16 6:44pm

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babynoz said:

TD3 said:

It depends... lol Microsoft have different rules for Home, Pro and Enterprise customers. I'm a Win Pro.

I'd like to assume since Windows 10 is suppose to a "choice", once its un-installed KB 3035583 your are done. Microsoft has already said, they will be very aggresiive in pushing Windows 10 upgrade; don't be surprised if you don't see again amongst your Microsoft Updates.

As far a manually updating...

What I've done since Vista. I take the time to research recommended and optional updates. In most instances, the option to know more about an update can be found on the right had site in update box.

Sometimes Microsoft is vague., I then copy and past the update in search get more info from the Geeks what an update do or doesn't do. Its a damn shame its come to this but there it is.



Some of those updates seem to stay on the list forever. lol The first thing I do is uncheck all the boxes then I go through the list to see what the update is and the file size. I even stopped installing the malicious software removal tool because it screwed up my system all the time. I hate microsoft.

In order for me to delete the update you mentioned I would have to install it first. Is it better to just uncheck it and wait for it to go away?

Once you uninstall KB 3035583, that's all you'll need to do. Its gone.

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Reply #16 posted 02/02/16 7:03pm

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TD3 said:

babynoz said:



Some of those updates seem to stay on the list forever. lol The first thing I do is uncheck all the boxes then I go through the list to see what the update is and the file size. I even stopped installing the malicious software removal tool because it screwed up my system all the time. I hate microsoft.

In order for me to delete the update you mentioned I would have to install it first. Is it better to just uncheck it and wait for it to go away?

Once you uninstall KB 3035583, that's all you'll need to do. Its gone.

I should read more carefully....

If it isn't installed, then follow my 1st instructions. Uncheck it, right click and hide update. You won't have to do anything else.

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Reply #17 posted 02/02/16 8:18pm

TonyVanDam

TD3 said:

TonyVanDam said:


Now you know why I called that company the Microsoft Plantation! lol

If you want freedom, learn to use Linux or BSD. cool

lol Yes you have. lol

Old Windows, you were a share-croppter

Windows 10, you are a slave.

lol

Linux community needs to double slapped for beening inept.... Windows have fucked up times in row, yet Linux is on the sidelines. mad



1. Well we're not going to talk much about Old Windows because I know a few local companies that are still using Windows 98 & XP! lurking

2. The Linux community are still divided because of the systemd controversy, hence why it's good to know Linux & BSD in order to have more operating systems (OSs) to choose from. But no matter what, getting away from Windows is still a wise decision.

And I still prefer a Linux distro to be 100% systemd free, damn it! wink

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Reply #18 posted 02/02/16 8:46pm

babynoz

TD3 said:

TD3 said:

Once you uninstall KB 3035583, that's all you'll need to do. Its gone.

I should read more carefully....

If it isn't installed, then follow my 1st instructions. Uncheck it, right click and hide update. You won't have to do anything else.



Okay, got it. cool

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Reply #19 posted 02/02/16 8:50pm

Adorecream

I have uninstalled the update, but the annoying windows 10 icon still appears in my toolbar and the pop up "100 million happy people already have"

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Reply #20 posted 02/02/16 9:33pm

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Adorecream said:

I have uninstalled the update, but the annoying windows 10 icon still appears in my toolbar and the pop up "100 million happy people already have"

Window Home or Pro user?

I'm going to have to get back on this. All of my moves have been preemptive. I think once you've upgraded than decide to return to our original OS, you may have to go into the registry to get rid of the toolbar pop-up. If you aren't comfortable with that, there's a 3rd party tool, I think that can block it.


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Reply #21 posted 02/02/16 11:03pm

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Reply #22 posted 02/03/16 8:50am

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TD3 said:

As of Feb 1, 2016

Microsoft, will no longer give you the option of upgradeing to Windows 10's. Instead, Microsoft is recommending you upgrade to Windows 10. What is the difference?

If a PC is set to install recommended updates automatically then Windows 10 will be downloaded and the installation could then start once the download is complete.

This is what you need to do.

1. Un-install KB 3035583. It is the update responsible for the Windows 10 notification.

2. Turn automatic updates off. Check for updates every second Tuesday of a month after 9:00 AM Pacific Time.

Windows 10 and its new web-browser the "Edge", are still a work in progress. Still, Win 10 is nothing but spyware. Windows 7 Pro computers can still be purchased until Nov. 2016.

Windows' 7 support ends, 2020. Window's 8.1 supports ends 2023

.

i've already done numebrs 1 and 2 above.

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microsoft is really bullying users with this 'update' and it's been a pain in the whatsit to keep it off my system.

and i notice the automatic updates keep pushing that KB3035583. gotta keep a sharp eye out for that baby, uninstall it right away if it sneaks by

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Reply #23 posted 02/03/16 2:20pm

Adorecream

TD3 said:

Adorecream said:

I have uninstalled the update, but the annoying windows 10 icon still appears in my toolbar and the pop up "100 million happy people already have"

Window Home or Pro user?

I'm going to have to get back on this. All of my moves have been preemptive. I think once you've upgraded than decide to return to our original OS, you may have to go into the registry to get rid of the toolbar pop-up. If you aren't comfortable with that, there's a 3rd party tool, I think that can block it.


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Home user, (Budget Peoples version). What is the registry and how do I get to it.

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Reply #24 posted 02/04/16 10:40pm

domainator2010

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Linux community needs to double slapped for beening inept.... Windows have fucked up times in row, yet Linux is on the sidelines. mad

Yes, you're echoing my thoughts - I've thought this many times now.....

By the way, I am now using OpenSUSE LEAP, I installed it recently, it's quite nice.... smile

Maybe there should be a way to organise "installer gangs" in every city - people who will GO TO the houses of people like babynoz and get them started with Linux, for free, or maybe even a small amount of money..... does anyone like this idea?

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Reply #25 posted 02/04/16 10:43pm

domainator2010

TonyVanDam said:

And I still prefer a Linux distro to be 100% systemd free, damn it! wink

I'm still not too clear on what systemd is, but isn't it something to do with servers? Like, not something that'll bother the usual home user.....?

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Reply #26 posted 02/05/16 4:28pm

TonyVanDam

domainator2010 said:

TonyVanDam said:

And I still prefer a Linux distro to be 100% systemd free, damn it! wink

I'm still not too clear on what systemd is, but isn't it something to do with servers? Like, not something that'll bother the usual home user.....?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd

http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page



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Reply #27 posted 02/10/16 6:41pm

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domainator2010 said:

TD3 said:

Linux community needs to double slapped for being inept.... Windows have fucked up times in row, yet Linux is on the sidelines. mad

Yes, you're echoing my thoughts - I've thought this many times now.....

By the way, I am now using OpenSUSE LEAP, I installed it recently, it's quite nice.... smile

Maybe there should be a way to organize "installer gangs" in every city - people who will GO TO the houses of people like babynoz and get them started with Linux, for free, or maybe even a small amount of money..... does anyone like this idea?


I think that's a pretty good idea. I for one believe Linux users are going to have to come to terms with, the willingness to pay for somethings. Nothing outragious but damn reach in your pocket and give someone $20, $25, $40, or $50 bucks. If you go to Best Buy, the charge 100 and some change to look at your computer.

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Reply #28 posted 02/13/16 12:56pm

domainator2010

I know I sometimes buy a Linux mag here which has distros on the coverdisc, it used to cost a 100 bucks and has now gone up to 120 - how much of that goes to the creators of the distributions, I don't know......I do hope it's some.

Which distro you on right now, TD3?

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Reply #29 posted 02/13/16 12:58pm

domainator2010

TD3 said:


I think that's a pretty good idea. I for one believe Linux users are going to have to come to terms with, the willingness to pay for somethings. Nothing outragious but damn reach in your pocket and give someone $20, $25, $40, or $50 bucks. If you go to Best Buy, the charge 100 and some change to look at your computer.

Why don't you actually try and get that organised in YOUR city, where you live? Maybe there'a Linux user group there whose members are willing to be the "gangs"? smile

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