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Reply #240 posted 08/19/15 5:26pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Funkcreep said:

Still more proof of a flat earth:

If Earth and its atmosphere were constantly spinning eastwards over 1000mph, then the average commercial airliner traveling 500mph should never be able to reach its Eastward destinations before they come speeding up from behind! Likewise Westward destinations should be arrived at thrice the speed, but this is not the case.



Same answer as above. Move on! Ask me something hard!

Why can't you see the southern cross simultaneously from all points in the southern hemisphere, as Polaris can be seen simultaneously from all points in the northern hemisphere?

In fact Polaris can be seen all the way down to the southern tropic of capricorn, which would be impossible on a ball-Earth. Please explain!

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Reply #241 posted 08/19/15 5:35pm

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^ mm hmm. i like your logic and want to add: why are all the board games flat? why aren't monopoly, or conquest of the empire well, rounder???? more true to life?? mind you, i'm not embracing the flat earth theory, but am entertaining it for a while here.

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Reply #242 posted 08/19/15 5:40pm

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Funkcreep said:

RodeoSchro said:



Same answer as above. Move on! Ask me something hard!

Why can't you see the southern cross simultaneously from all points in the southern hemisphere, as Polaris can be seen simultaneously from all points in the northern hemisphere?

In fact Polaris can be seen all the way down to the southern tropic of capricorn, which would be impossible on a ball-Earth. Please explain!



There is a musical answer to your question:

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Reply #243 posted 08/19/15 5:59pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Funkcreep said:

Why can't you see the southern cross simultaneously from all points in the southern hemisphere, as Polaris can be seen simultaneously from all points in the northern hemisphere?

In fact Polaris can be seen all the way down to the southern tropic of capricorn, which would be impossible on a ball-Earth. Please explain!



There is a musical answer to your question:

Good tune! spinning it now!

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Reply #244 posted 08/19/15 6:04pm

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Funkcreep said:

RodeoSchro said:



There is a musical answer to your question:

Good tune! spinning it now!



It is, but THIS is 9 minutes of pure beauty. I was never into CSN until I saw this. WOW. And I just looked up a How-To-Play-It on YouTube, and it's not that hard! It's an open-tuning song, which is something new to my playing. Can't wait to jam on it!

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Reply #245 posted 08/19/15 6:10pm

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Another good one! cool video too of our _____ earth!

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Reply #246 posted 08/19/15 6:10pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Funkcreep said:

Good tune! spinning it now!



It is, but THIS is 9 minutes of pure beauty. I was never into CSN until I saw this. WOW. And I just looked up a How-To-Play-It on YouTube, and it's not that hard! It's an open-tuning song, which is something new to my playing. Can't wait to jam on it!

..listening now

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Reply #247 posted 08/19/15 7:32pm

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The glass used in all commercial airplanes is curved to remain flush with the fuselage. This creates a slight bulging effect people mistake for being the supposed curvature of the Earth. In actuality, if the Earth were a ball, no matter how large, you would NOT be able to see the horizon rise remaining at eye level all the way up. If the Earth were a ball, no matter how big, the horizon would stay exactly where it was and you would have to look DOWN further and further to see the horizon at all. Looking straight out the window at 35,000 feet you should see nothing but "outer-space" from the port and starboard windows, as the Earth/horizon are supposed to be BELOW you. If they are visible at eye level outside both side windows, that's because the Earth is flat!

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Reply #248 posted 08/19/15 7:33pm

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Reply #249 posted 08/19/15 7:45pm

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This will answer many of your questions about the flat earth:

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Reply #250 posted 08/19/15 8:00pm

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Funkcreep said:

This will answer many of your questions about the flat earth:

stoned

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Reply #251 posted 08/19/15 8:03pm

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The glass used in all commercial airplanes is curved to remain flush with the fuselage. This creates a slight bulging effect people mistake for being the supposed curvature of the Earth. In actuality, if the Earth were a ball, no matter how large, you would NOT be able to see the horizon rise remaining at eye level all the way up. If the Earth were a ball, no matter how big, the horizon would stay exactly where it was and you would have to look DOWN further and further to see the horizon at all. Looking straight out the window at 35,000 feet you should see nothing but "outer-space" from the port and starboard windows, as the Earth/horizon are supposed to be BELOW you. If they are visible at eye level outside both side windows, that's because the Earth is flat!





The problem is. We do look down at the horizon. It's fairly imperceptible to the naked eye. But the higher we go, the lower the horizon. At our scale we may not notice it. We are after all always within the earths atmosphere unless we are an astronaut and if the earth were the size of an apple, the atmosphere would be the thickness of the skin so the visual changes you are blindly repeating from your "real flat earther" cult leader are absurdly nonsensical and exaggerated to totally irrelevant scales. It's basically just the old "it looks flat from my perspective, ergo it must be flat"

You sir, are a buffoon.
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Reply #252 posted 08/19/15 8:15pm

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Much like the nonsensical assertion that if the world was round the mast
Would visibly be seen to tip forward as it went over the horizon or even better disappear before the boat as if it was 90 degrees to your viewing position. Something that would happen it's a quarter way around the planet and therefore long since unseeable anyway

Ridiculous nonsense.

How anyone thinks you've made a good case is beyond me.

The moon is actually a light source. That might be the dumbest claim of all.

It's a light source that just so happens to occasionally appear as a crescent where the lit portion points to where the sun
has just set or is about to rise. Almost as if it's a sphere that is illuminated like earth is, by the sun.
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Reply #253 posted 08/19/15 10:21pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Funkcreep said:

your answer is salt?? LOL so salt makes the waves and tides in the ocean lol



Nope, that's just a guess. But the difference between the oceans and the other bodies of water you compared to oceans is salt.

Prove I'm wrong! And never forget - you are totally awesome! highfive


Dude the REAL answer is FROGS!!!

There are no frogs in the ocean but they do exist in ponds...

OMG!! Frogs hold the lake water onto the surface of the flat-earth!!!

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek

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Reply #254 posted 08/19/15 10:27pm

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It's true. I just filled a bucket with water and added some salt and then observed the levels for a few hours. My first measurement was 11". Then a bunch of mice pulled up in a VW van, grabbed their boards and are now surfing around the bucket.
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Reply #255 posted 08/19/15 11:57pm

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Funkcreep said:

JustErin said:

I'm still waiting on a real answer on how claiming the earth is a globe vs flat controls the masses.

Global teachings - we on earth are NOT special, we're just a spec in the universe and 1 of billions and possibly trillions of other planets/galaxies. Athiests love this teaching.

Flat eartch teaching - we are special and God created this earth for us. The sun, moon and stars revolve around us. It's all about us and nobody else.

do you see the difference?

well, the bad news, we ARE not special. the good news though, you certainly are ONE of a kind smile


I wonder one thing though: in order to prove that we are not special, all the conspiracists would have to do is present some fake signal from outer space from some Alien race(s), and poof, there it is.

and consider that this fake signal would require almost no effort and very little cost. while on the other hand pretending a global instead of a flat earth is a million times more complicated and expensive, requires millions of people to be inside the conspiracy, and would be much more easy to disprove. easy to disprove by anyone who simply takes some time to travel around the world. (*)


so then I ask, why don't "they" just present this fake Alien signal? nothing would be more easy

in reality it's even the opposite: the former NASA SETI project had 0.1 % of the NASA budget.... and it was stopped quite some time ago... without result... now THAT is what I call a missed opportunity!

and the privately funded SETI porgram we have now, is struggeling to get some money....

so here is my question I want you to deeply think about: how are the conspiracists missing this big chance to put the nail in the coffin to finally "control the masses"? forever?



2nd question: how is a God only capable to make just one tiny populated Micky Mouse planet any better, than a God who can actually make billions of them in a gigantic complex universe? I would even think the opposite shrug





(*) I just thought of... an uncle of mine and his wife are currently travelling all around the world with their boat since 3 years already (see the blog here) he hasn't encountered any anomalities, has not fallen down the edge, not crashed agaisnt any bordering mountains or ice, nothing. so is he with the conspiracists?

[Edited 8/20/15 2:04am]

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Reply #256 posted 08/20/15 2:14am

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Dancelot said:



Funkcreep said:




JustErin said:


I'm still waiting on a real answer on how claiming the earth is a globe vs flat controls the masses.





Global teachings - we on earth are NOT special, we're just a spec in the universe and 1 of billions and possibly trillions of other planets/galaxies. Athiests love this teaching.



Flat eartch teaching - we are special and God created this earth for us. The sun, moon and stars revolve around us. It's all about us and nobody else.



do you see the difference?






well, the bad news, we ARE not special. the good news though, you certainly are ONE of a kind smile


I wonder one thing though: in order to prove that we are not special, all the conspiracists would have to do is present some fake signal from outer space from some Alien race(s), and poof, there it is.

and consider that this fake signal would require almost no effort and very little cost. while on the other hand pretending a global instead of a flat earth is a million times more complicated and expensive, requires millions of people to be inside the conspiracy, and would be much more easy to disprove. easy to disprove by anyone who simply takes some time to travel around the world. (*)



so then I ask, why don't "they" just present this fake Alien signal? nothing would be more easy



in reality it's even the opposite: the former NASA SETI project had 0.1 % of the NASA budget.... and it was stopped quite some time ago... without result... now THAT is what I call a missed opportunity!


and the privately funded SETI porgram we have now, is struggeling to get some money....



so here is my question I want you to deeply think about: how are the conspiracists missing this big chance to put the nail in the coffin to finally "control the masses"? forever?



2nd question: how is a God only capable to make just one tiny populated Micky Mouse planet any better, than a God who can actually make billions of them in a gigantic complex universe? I would even think the opposite shrug





(*) I just thought of... an uncle of mine and his wife are currently travelling all around the world with their boat since 3 years already (see the blog here) he hasn't encountered any anomalities, has not fallen down the edge, not crashed agaisnt any bordering mountains or ice, nothing. so is he with the conspiracists?

[Edited 8/20/15 2:04am]



That whole "fake alien signal" point you just made. Fucking brilliant. What a great point. The irony is that some conspiracists claim that NASA are hiding info of aliens. The same NASA that this conspiracist asserts is an athieistic (not really atheists though) group trying to convince us the universe is huge and we're not unique. It's done. You just won the internet.

If there was a New Years honours for Internet smack downs. I'd nominate that you be knighted.

Arise Sir Dancealot. Here's the keys to the realm.

I salute you.

Re your uncle. Now if I was the inventor of this flat earth model hypothesis. I'd instantly recognise the folly of expecting people to believe that all pilots and seafarers are in on the lie. I mean NO ONE Can be that stupid right? So it would go like this.

You head in a straight line East or west but you are actually making an imperceptible tiny right or
Left hand turn so you really just navigate a large circle though you're not aware of it. That's how you can get back to the same place. Ahhhh. I hear you ask. The instruments don't show a turn,they show a straight line. Take your pick. They are calibrated that way by atheists, God makes the slight adjustment to make it work or something something something qantum, something dark energy.
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Reply #257 posted 08/20/15 5:48am

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biggrin





okay, I have another one.



250 years BC in ancient Greece, Erasthosthenes already was able to caluclate Earths radius pretty accurately with trigonmetry, using the shadow length and distance on different places.

but this would be impossible on a flat earth.

now here's my question.

was an ancient Greek already part of the conspiracy?
an evil atheist spreading Anti-Christian propganda and lies, long before Christianity even existed? eek inquiring minds want to know....

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Reply #258 posted 08/20/15 7:01am

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Dancelot said:

Funkcreep said:

Global teachings - we on earth are NOT special, we're just a spec in the universe and 1 of billions and possibly trillions of other planets/galaxies. Athiests love this teaching.

Flat eartch teaching - we are special and God created this earth for us. The sun, moon and stars revolve around us. It's all about us and nobody else.

do you see the difference?

well, the bad news, we ARE not special. the good news though, you certainly are ONE of a kind smile


I wonder one thing though: in order to prove that we are not special, all the conspiracists would have to do is present some fake signal from outer space from some Alien race(s), and poof, there it is.

and consider that this fake signal would require almost no effort and very little cost. while on the other hand pretending a global instead of a flat earth is a million times more complicated and expensive, requires millions of people to be inside the conspiracy, and would be much more easy to disprove. easy to disprove by anyone who simply takes some time to travel around the world. (*)


so then I ask, why don't "they" just present this fake Alien signal? nothing would be more easy

in reality it's even the opposite: the former NASA SETI project had 0.1 % of the NASA budget.... and it was stopped quite some time ago... without result... now THAT is what I call a missed opportunity!

and the privately funded SETI porgram we have now, is struggeling to get some money....

so here is my question I want you to deeply think about: how are the conspiracists missing this big chance to put the nail in the coffin to finally "control the masses"? forever?



2nd question: how is a God only capable to make just one tiny populated Micky Mouse planet any better, than a God who can actually make billions of them in a gigantic complex universe? I would even think the opposite shrug





(*) I just thought of... an uncle of mine and his wife are currently travelling all around the world with their boat since 3 years already (see the blog here) he hasn't encountered any anomalities, has not fallen down the edge, not crashed agaisnt any bordering mountains or ice, nothing. so is he with the conspiracists?

[Edited 8/20/15 2:04am]

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Reply #259 posted 08/20/15 7:22am

RodeoSchro

Please check in the P&R forum. Please please please please PLEASE! It needs you badly, and I think there's a thread that just started that is tailor made for you!

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Reply #260 posted 08/20/15 7:51am

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RodeoSchro said:

Please check in the P&R forum. Please please please please PLEASE! It needs you badly, and I think there's a thread that just started that is tailor made for you!



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lol must. read.

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Reply #261 posted 08/20/15 10:28am

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ED version 2.0! Finally.... the org has been a shadow of itself since the eternal dragon left us...

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Reply #262 posted 08/20/15 10:29am

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I would like to know what the point of all the stars that orbit our flat earth is. What are they? How far away are they? What is their purpose?

I would also like to know how fast we are climbing. If gravity is really our flat earth being pulled (or pushed) upwards then at what point do we break the speed of light? After all, to maintain our comfortable 1g of downward pressure, the upward movement needs to be accelerating. At some point that acceleration will take us upto lightspeed and beyond. Awesome!

and why do balloons and smoke rise in this accelerating upward push/pull?

I also need to know why I cant see any land, lighthouses, mountains, buildings or people with a large telescope from the middle of the Atlantic. My telescope can clearly see the rings of Saturn which is millions of miles away, but not a mountain from a few thousand miles? How bizarrey!

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Reply #263 posted 08/20/15 2:01pm

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Two words: coriolis effect. (Look it up.)

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Reply #264 posted 08/20/15 2:30pm

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lust said:

Much like the nonsensical assertion that if the world was round the mast Would visibly be seen to tip forward as it went over the horizon or even better disappear before the boat as if it was 90 degrees to your viewing position. Something that would happen it's a quarter way around the planet and therefore long since unseeable anyway Ridiculous nonsense. How anyone thinks you've made a good case is beyond me. The moon is actually a light source. That might be the dumbest claim of all. It's a light source that just so happens to occasionally appear as a crescent where the lit portion points to where the sun has just set or is about to rise. Almost as if it's a sphere that is illuminated like earth is, by the sun.

"something that would happen it's a quarter way around the planet" Are you saying curvature is not noticable until a quarter way around the planet?

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Reply #265 posted 08/20/15 2:31pm

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RenHoek said:

RodeoSchro said:



Nope, that's just a guess. But the difference between the oceans and the other bodies of water you compared to oceans is salt.

Prove I'm wrong! And never forget - you are totally awesome! highfive


Dude the REAL answer is FROGS!!!

There are no frogs in the ocean but they do exist in ponds...

OMG!! Frogs hold the lake water onto the surface of the flat-earth!!!

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek

Frog answer: 9.25 lol

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Reply #266 posted 08/20/15 2:41pm

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Dancelot said:

Funkcreep said:

Global teachings - we on earth are NOT special, we're just a spec in the universe and 1 of billions and possibly trillions of other planets/galaxies. Athiests love this teaching.

Flat eartch teaching - we are special and God created this earth for us. The sun, moon and stars revolve around us. It's all about us and nobody else.

do you see the difference?

well, the bad news, we ARE not special. the good news though, you certainly are ONE of a kind smile


I wonder one thing though: in order to prove that we are not special, all the conspiracists would have to do is present some fake signal from outer space from some Alien race(s), and poof, there it is.

and consider that this fake signal would require almost no effort and very little cost. while on the other hand pretending a global instead of a flat earth is a million times more complicated and expensive, requires millions of people to be inside the conspiracy, and would be much more easy to disprove. easy to disprove by anyone who simply takes some time to travel around the world. (*)


so then I ask, why don't "they" just present this fake Alien signal? nothing would be more easy

in reality it's even the opposite: the former NASA SETI project had 0.1 % of the NASA budget.... and it was stopped quite some time ago... without result... now THAT is what I call a missed opportunity!

and the privately funded SETI porgram we have now, is struggeling to get some money....

so here is my question I want you to deeply think about: how are the conspiracists missing this big chance to put the nail in the coffin to finally "control the masses"? forever?



2nd question: how is a God only capable to make just one tiny populated Micky Mouse planet any better, than a God who can actually make billions of them in a gigantic complex universe? I would even think the opposite shrug





(*) I just thought of... an uncle of mine and his wife are currently travelling all around the world with their boat since 3 years already (see the blog here) he hasn't encountered any anomalities, has not fallen down the edge, not crashed agaisnt any bordering mountains or ice, nothing. so is he with the conspiracists?

[Edited 8/20/15 2:04am]

Why don't they fake aliens? Maybe they have? You always hear about alien stories where the government is hiding what they really know. The recent fake Mars pictures, I'm sure there are subtle hints at other life etc... Let's give them another 10029 years, I'm sure NASA will have "more proof of life" outside of our planet. And please keep in mind, we are talking about NASA, the ones who presented to use the fake moon landing.

On your God question, you can ask him that one day why He only chose to make 1 planet and populate it? It may just be a question neither you and I can never answer.

As far as your uncle and his wife are concerned..dont worry, they wont go as far as Antartica and if they do happen to make it that far, the military police will be there to make sure they don't see whats on the other side of the wall of ice.

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Reply #267 posted 08/20/15 2:57pm

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confuse Not once has Funkcreep mentioned anything about religion nor have any of the videos posted mentioned religion. Maybe he's making a point that people get stuck in one mindset unable to let the bone go, idk, I usually fizzle out of these type of discussion extremely soon, bless those that have the stamina for this kind of stuff.

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Reply #268 posted 08/20/15 3:04pm

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Funkcreep said:

RenHoek said:


Dude the REAL answer is FROGS!!!

There are no frogs in the ocean but they do exist in ponds...

OMG!! Frogs hold the lake water onto the surface of the flat-earth!!!

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek

Frog answer: 9.25 lol



Frogs are NOT funny. Don't even get me started.

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Reply #269 posted 08/20/15 3:42pm

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The Global Earth Lie

"Wolves in sheep's clothing have pulled the wool over our eyes. For almost 500 years, the masses have been thoroughly deceived by a cosmic fairy-tale of astronomical proportions. We have been taught a falsehood so gigantic and diabolical that it has blinded us from our own experience and common sense, from seeing the world and the universe as they truly are. Through pseudo-science books and programs, mass media and public education, universities and goverment propanda, the world has been systematically brain-washed, slowly indoctrinated over centuries into the unquestioning belief of the greatest lie of all time" The Flat-Earth Conspiracy by Eric Dubay

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