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Reply #150 posted 08/12/14 5:26pm

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It's amazing to see how beloved he was.
I didn't realize how much his work meant to me until he passed.
Taking gifts for granted.
Also, realizing my own mortality as people/icons from my life begin to die off.

Robin Williams was one of a kind, and amazingly talented. May he rest in peace.
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Reply #151 posted 08/12/14 6:06pm

mjscarousal

I am more sad than I thought I would be. R.I.P. to a great comedian!

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Reply #152 posted 08/12/14 7:25pm

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Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor...I am Pagliacci.”

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Reply #153 posted 08/12/14 7:40pm

morningsong

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Robin Williams: 'I was shameful, did stuff that caused disgust – that's hard to recover from'


His new film, World's Greatest Dad, is a glorious return to form.
But a mournful Robin Williams would rather talk about his battle with drugs and alcohol – and recovering from heart surgery
Decca Aitkenhead, The Guardian
Sunday, September 19, 2010


Zoom in (real dimensions: 700 x 420)Robin Williams 2010.jpg

Photograph: Ken Hively, Los Angeles Times

In the normal order of things, an interview with a Hollywood actor observes the form of a transaction. The actor wants to promote their film, and ideally talk about little else – least of all anything of a personal nature. The newspaper is mildly interested in the new film, but hopes they can be tempted to talk about other matters – best of all their private life. Sometimes the agreement is explicit, but most of the time it is mutually understood, and so the interview tends to proceed rather like a polite dance, with each party manoeuvring in its own interests. On this occasion, however, the convention appears to have been turned on its head.

Robin Williams's new film, World's Greatest Dad, is brilliant. Having starred in a lot of unspeakably sentimental dross in recent years, here he is at last in something clever and thoughtful; a dark, slightly weird comedy that touches on all sorts of interesting themes that I'm hoping he'll talk about. Williams, however, has other plans. It is almost impossible to get anything coherent out of him about the film, or any of the issues it raises. He is vague, tangential and at times more or less incomprehensible – until the conversation turns to more personal matters, at which point he becomes lucid and forthcoming. What Williams really wants to talk about, it turns out, is his relapse into alcoholism, his rehab and his open-heart surgery.

Unfortunately, it takes me some time to cotton on to this, so I keep asking questions about World's Greatest Dad. Williams plays Lance, a failed writer, failed teacher and single father of perhaps the most irredeemably dislikable teenager ever to appear on screen. His son Kyle is addicted to hardcore internet pornography and is almost universally loathed – until he accidentally dies. His father fakes a suicide note, and when it is leaked, the school magazine reprints the letter, its poignancy prompting a posthumous revision of everyone's former low opinion of the boy. Soon a juggernaut of confected grief is roaring out of control.

Unable to resist the allure of his new popularity, Lance proceeds to fake a whole journal, passing it off as his son's and fuelling the insatiable hunger for loss. A bidding war breaks out between publishing houses, the journal becomes a bestselling book, and Lance winds up on a daytime TV show, like a pseudo celebrity, peddling his mythical son's tragedy to the nation.

The film is a devastatingly funny indictment of the modern grief industry, but when I ask Williams if he thinks it's getting worse, he says mildly, "Well, I think people want it. In a weird way, it's trying to keep hope alive." So does he not share the film's judgment on mawkish sentimentality? "Well, you just try and keep it in perspective; you have to remember the best and the worst." It seems as if he's about to engage with the question – "In America they really do mythologise people when they die," he agrees – but then he veers off at a tangent, putting on Ronald Reagan's voice but talking about the ex-president in the third person: "Maybe he was kind of lovable, but you realised half way through his administration he really didn't know where he was."

I wonder if Williams had experienced a little bit of the film's theme himself, when his great friend Christopher Reeve died. Was it hard, I ask, to see fans mourning Superman, when to Williams he was a real person, a real friend?

"He was a friend," Williams says solemnly. "And also knowing him, especially after the accident and everything he went through – it was a weird thing." What was it like, I try again, to grieve privately for a public figure? "Well, it's a whole different game," he says, but then starts talking about the death of Reeve's wife a year later. "It happens all the time, I know, but I know their kids, they're amazing, and to see them go through so much loss in one year – that's tough."

I ask about the media's role in the manufacturing of grief, but instead he recalls a talkshow he saw where a man confessed to adultery before a female studio audience. "Idiot. Why don't you just go bobbing for piranha? These women are screaming 'You bastard!', but the idea of being on TV overrode everything." He adopts a southern redneck accent: "'Ah'm on TV, y'all.' You're a schmuck, why would you do that?" Then the accent again: "Ah'm on tee-vee, ah'm gonna be fay-mous.' Yeah, for all of five minutes, big time."

We're not making much headway on the grief industry, so I try internet porn. Williams's three children have grown up through the internet age, so I'm curious about his views on its impact on adolescents. "It's just like – there's everything you could ever think about online." But what does Williams actually think about it; is it liberating and a good thing, or corrupting and a bad thing? "It's an old thing," he shrugs. "Look at the walls of Pompeii. That's what got the internet started." Then he starts talking rather boringly about iPhones, and how it's now possible to do video-conference calls on a mobile.

My worry beforehand had been that Williams would be too wildly manic to make much sense. When he appeared on the Jonathan Ross show earlier this summer, he'd been vintage Williams – hyperactive to the point of deranged, ricocheting between voices, riffing off his internal dialogues. Off-camera, however, he is a different kettle of fish. His bearing is intensely Zen and almost mournful, and when he's not putting on voices he speaks in a low, tremulous baritone – as if on the verge of tears – that would work very well if he were delivering a funeral eulogy. He seems gentle and kind – even tender – but the overwhelming impression is one of sadness.

Even the detours into dialogue feel more like a reflex than irrepressible comic passion, and the freakish articulacy showcased in Good Morning Vietnam has gone. Quite often when he opens his mouth a slur of unrelated words come out, like a dozen different false starts tangled together, from which an actual sentence eventually finds its way out. For example, "So/Now/And then/Well/It/I – Sometimes I used to work just to work." It's like trying to tune into a long-wave radio station.

I find myself wondering if alcohol abuse might have something to do with it. Williams used to be a big-drinking cocaine addict, but quit both before the birth of his eldest son in 1983, and stayed sober for 20 years. On location in Alaska in 2003, however, he started drinking again. He brings this up himself, and the minute he does he becomes more engaged.

"I was in a small town where it's not the edge of the world, but you can see it from there, and then I thought: drinking. I just thought, hey, maybe drinking will help. Because I felt alone and afraid. It was that thing of working so much, and going ****, maybe that will help. And it was the worst thing in the world." What did he feel like when he had his first drink? "You feel warm and kind of wonderful. And then the next thing you know, it's a problem, and you're isolated."

Some have suggested it was Reeve's death that turned him back to drink. "No," he says quietly, "it's more selfish than that. It's just literally being afraid. And you think, oh, this will ease the fear. And it doesn't." What was he afraid of? "Everything. It's just a general all-round arggghhh. It's fearfulness and anxiety."

He didn't take up cocaine again, because "I knew that would kill me". I'd have thought it would be a case of in for a penny – "In for a gram?" he smiles. "No. Cocaine – paranoid and impotent, what fun. There was no bit of me thinking, ooh, let's go back to that. Useless conversations until midnight, waking up at dawn feeling like a vampire on a day pass. No."

It only took a week of drinking before he knew he was in trouble, though. "For that first week you lie to yourself, and tell yourself you can stop, and then your body kicks back and says, no, stop later. And then it took about three years, and finally you do stop."

It wasn't, he says, fun while it lasted, but three years sounds like a long time not to be having fun. "That's right. Most of the time you just realise you've started to do embarrassing things." He recalls drinking at a charity auction hosted by Sharon Stone at Cannes: "And I realised I was pretty baked, and I look out and I see all of a sudden a wall of paparazzi. And I go, 'Oh well, I guess it's out now'."

In the end it was a family intervention that put him into residential rehab. I wonder if he was "Robin Williams" in rehab, and he agrees. "Yeah, you start off initially riffing, and kind of being real funny. But the weird thing is, how can you do a comic turn without betraying the precepts of group therapy? Eventually you shed it."

Williams still attends AA meetings at least once a week – "Have to. It's good to go" – and I suspect this accounts for a fair bit of his Zen solemnity. At times it verges on sentimental: he asks if I have children, and when I tell him I have a baby son he nods gravely, as if I've just shared. "Congrats. Good luck. It's a pretty wonderful thing." But it may well be down to the open-heart surgery he underwent early last year, when surgeons replaced his aortic valve with one from a pig.

"Oh, God, you find yourself getting emotional. It breaks through your barrier, you've literally cracked the armour. And you've got no choice, it literally breaks you open. And you feel really mortal." Does the intimation of mortality live with him still? "Totally." Is it a blessing? "Totally."

He takes everything, he says, more slowly now. His second marriage, to a film producer, ended in 2008 – largely because of his drinking, even though by then he was sober. "You know, I was shameful, and you do stuff that causes disgust, and that's hard to recover from. You can say, 'I forgive you' and all that stuff, but it's not the same as recovering from it. It's not coming back."

The couple had been together for 19 years, and have a son and a daughter, both now grown up; he has another son from his first marriage to an actress in the late 70s. Williams is now with a graphic designer, whom he met shortly before his heart surgery, and they live together in San Francisco. "But we're taking it slow. I don't know, maybe some day we'll marry, but there's no rush. I just want to take it easy now. This is good news. It's the whole thing of taking it slow. And it's so much better."

Williams thinks he used to be a fairly classic workaholic, but at 59 is now taking it slow professionally too. "In one two-year period I made eight movies. At one point the joke was that there's a movie out without you in it. You have this idea that you'd better keep working otherwise people will forget. And that was dangerous. And then you realise, no, actually if you take a break people might be more interested in you. Now, after the heart surgery, I'll take it slow."

Williams has been nothing if not prolific. After first finding fame in the late 70s as a kooky space alien in the sitcom Mork and Mindy, he became better known as a standup comedian, but his astonishing performance in Good Morning Vietnam earned him an Oscar nomination in 1988, with two more in the following five years, for Dead Poets' Society and The Fisher King. Mrs Doubtfire, in which he dragged up to play a nanny, brought wider mainstream success, and in 1998 Good Will Hunting finally won him an Oscar. In recent years, however, he has made an awful lot of what would politely be described as less critically acclaimed films.

Some of them have been downright awful; schmaltzy family comedies drenched in maudlin sentiment, such as the unwatchably saccharine Patch Adams or, even worse, Old Dogs. When I ask why he made them, he says: "Well, I've had a lot of people tell me they watched Old Dogs with their kids and had a good time." It didn't offend his sense of integrity? "No, it paid the bills. Sometimes you have to make a movie to make money." He didn't mistake them, he adds, for intelligent scripts: "You know what you're getting into, totally. You know they're going to make it goofy. And that's OK."

Like many people, I had always been confused by Williams's film choices. The sharpness of his early standup just seemed so incompatible with the sentimentality of his worst movies, and if, as Williams claims, Old Dogs simply paid the bills, he must have one very high-maintenance lifestyle. When I watched World's Greatest Dad I just assumed it echoed his own sensibility more accurately than all the other rubbish he has made. But actually, having met him, I'm not sure it does. I don't know whether it was rehab or heart surgery, but he seems to have arrived at a place where sentimentality can sit quite easily.

I ask if he feels happier now, and he says softly, "I think so. And not afraid to be unhappy. That's OK too. And then you can be like, all is good. And that is the thing, that is the gift."

World's Greatest Dad is released on September 24.



I just watched this movie. Ironic ain't it especially given the quote in it about suicide.
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Reply #154 posted 08/13/14 12:28am

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Robin Williams Death is unsettling and disturbing. That Man Entertained the world all of his adult life and in the end we couldn't help him. Robin was so Damn Gifted he'd wear you out. His Energy will forever be unmatched. My Heart goes out to his Family and Friends who are probably too disturbed to find the words to express their hurt. I have Loved ones that battle Depression & Addiction. All the love in the World cant make the illness go away. I am a witness & a believer in the Power of Prayer. The only thing you can do is Let go & Let God.

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Reply #155 posted 08/13/14 1:53am

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Chancellor said:

Robin Williams Death is unsettling and disturbing. That Man Entertained the world all of his adult life and in the end we couldn't help him. Robin was so Damn Gifted he'd wear you out. His Energy will forever be unmatched. My Heart goes out to his Family and Friends who are probably too disturbed to find the words to express their hurt. I have Loved ones that battle Depression & Addiction. All the love in the World cant make the illness go away. I am a witness & a believer in the Power of Prayer. The only thing you can do is Let go & Let God.



this particularly makes me sad

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Reply #156 posted 08/13/14 4:21am

JoeTyler

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R&B singer Maxwell just posted this tribute to Robin Williams on his Instagram:

What Dreams May Come True

-Robin Williams

i'm sure he posted it with his best intentions, but really, that movie was dreadful and insulting, the worst case of a hardline catholic-sponsored hollywood movie; ironic that in that movie he went to hell to "save" his wife who had committed suicide...ironic and extremely SAD given the circumstances...

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Reply #157 posted 08/13/14 7:06am

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"She made me glad to be a man"
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Reply #158 posted 08/13/14 9:14am

SeventeenDayze

JoeTyler said:

SeventeenDayze said:

R&B singer Maxwell just posted this tribute to Robin Williams on his Instagram:

What Dreams May Come True

-Robin Williams

i'm sure he posted it with his best intentions, but really, that movie was dreadful and insulting, the worst case of a hardline catholic-sponsored hollywood movie; ironic that in that movie he went to hell to "save" his wife who had committed suicide...ironic and extremely SAD given the circumstances...

Thanks for "sharing" rolleyes

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Reply #159 posted 08/13/14 9:17am

SeventeenDayze

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I don't think there's any other comedian (or person) around that could ever do this as well as he did. What a comedic genius he was.

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Reply #160 posted 08/13/14 9:44am

jon1967

Till we see you again sir thank you .. go make the angels laugh.

How fun it was.


[Edited 8/13/14 9:46am]

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Reply #161 posted 08/13/14 10:51am

JoeBala

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNTQzMjM5NzQ1N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNzQ2MDc3._V1_SY347_SX475_AL_.jpg

What a nice shot.

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Reply #162 posted 08/13/14 2:21pm

JoeTyler

Zelda Williams already forced to delete her facebook/twitter/instagram accounts due to the immature scum of the internet disbelief

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Reply #163 posted 08/13/14 3:06pm

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XxAxX said:

Chancellor said:

Robin Williams Death is unsettling and disturbing. That Man Entertained the world all of his adult life and in the end we couldn't help him. Robin was so Damn Gifted he'd wear you out. His Energy will forever be unmatched. My Heart goes out to his Family and Friends who are probably too disturbed to find the words to express their hurt. I have Loved ones that battle Depression & Addiction. All the love in the World cant make the illness go away. I am a witness & a believer in the Power of Prayer. The only thing you can do is Let go & Let God.



this particularly makes me sad

Me, too. cry

Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
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Reply #164 posted 08/13/14 4:47pm

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This is such sad news. I'm in shock. Its hard to accept that not only is he dead but that he committed suicide.




Man i fucking hate mental illness(especially depression) and addiction ! I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy... and im serious.




Since Robin was a San Franciscan, you would be liable to see him out and about. I met him once and seen him strolling about SF a couple of times. He was always joking with strangers and seemed very affable...



I just wanna cry...




RIP rose

[Edited 8/13/14 16:54pm]

Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Reply #165 posted 08/13/14 5:13pm

jon1967

What was his week like, month ... It makes no sense.
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Reply #166 posted 08/13/14 7:46pm

Dalia11

Side effects of the meds he was taking may have
Led to him to take his life?
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Reply #167 posted 08/13/14 9:27pm

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I'm still heartbroken sad I didn't realize how much I loved this man. I know it's impossible...but how I wish life WAS a game and we could just bring him back. bawl

"Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack
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Reply #168 posted 08/13/14 9:51pm

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Dalia11 said:

Side effects of the meds he was taking may have Led to him to take his life?

If Robin was on meds, at at this time we dont know, he and his doctor/'s would have hopefully been on a good one to one discussion on what the effects of the meds were making Robin were affecting him. If Robin stopped medicating then all bets are off on what was going through his head. Lots of people with depression on meds think foolishly that the suddenly feel fine and they can controll their emotional state which is seldom the case.

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #169 posted 08/13/14 11:22pm

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I've watched numerous tributes since learning of what has happened but this one LITERALLY...

and I do mean LITERALLY...had me on the motherfucking floor like this fit

Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
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Reply #170 posted 08/14/14 12:31am

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I've watched numerous tributes since learning of what has happened but this one LITERALLY...

and I do mean LITERALLY...had me on the motherfucking floor like this fit

"This is Mork signing off from Boulder, Colorado. Nanu Nanu." cry

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Reply #171 posted 08/14/14 12:37am

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That last tribute really made me cry.

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Reply #172 posted 08/14/14 1:01am

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wildgoldenhoney said:

That last tribute really made me cry.

hug Knowing that he's no longer somewhere in this world doing what only HE could is just so very, very WRONG to me! disbelief

Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
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Reply #173 posted 08/14/14 1:09am

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

That last tribute really made me cry.

hug Knowing that he's no longer somewhere in this world doing what only HE could is just so very, very WRONG to me! disbelief

hug

I know, it's kind of incomprehensible.

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Reply #174 posted 08/14/14 1:22am

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wildgoldenhoney said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

hug Knowing that he's no longer somewhere in this world doing what only HE could is just so very, very WRONG to me! disbelief

hug

I know, it's kind of incomprehensible.

ABSOLUTELY! sigh cry

Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
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Reply #175 posted 08/14/14 11:50am

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http://www.wxyz.com/enter...ns-disease

LOS ANGELES (AP) - The wife of Robin Williams says was in the stages of Parkinson's disease and was sober at the time of his apparent suicide.

In a statement Thursday, Susan Schneider said that Williams was struggling with depression, anxiety and the early stages of Parkinson's when he was found dead earlier this week..

The wife of the actor-comedian said he was not ready to share his Parkinson's diagnosis publicly.

cry

Here's what bothers ME:

Prince died of an overdose of the drug Fentanyl. Of which, it is very highly fucking likely that he never even knew he'd taken.
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Reply #176 posted 08/14/14 3:48pm

MoBettaBliss

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What was his week like, month ... It makes no sense.



dude... stop trying to make sense of it... you simply have no idea where he was at and never will... and blaming his family for leaving him alone is cold as hell... you don't know the situation... end of story


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Reply #177 posted 08/14/14 4:44pm

jon1967

Asking the tough qs is what some ppl do when family members pass on. Seems the media wants us to care like he was family.Damn right its cold leavn him the man was sick if this was a child thered be hell to pay n qs n more qs. If they dont want ppl askn then maybe reporting their deaths should be given no more speacial treatment. I dont see news ppl reporting everday ppl passin on what makes them any less important
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Reply #178 posted 08/14/14 7:38pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

http://www.wxyz.com/enter...ns-disease






LOS ANGELES (AP) - The wife of Robin Williams says was in the stages of Parkinson's disease and was sober at the time of his apparent suicide.


In a statement Thursday, Susan Schneider said that Williams was struggling with depression, anxiety and the early stages of Parkinson's when he was found dead earlier this week..


The wife of the actor-comedian said he was not ready to share his Parkinson's diagnosis publicly.



cry





That's sad.

I know a lot of people including myself wondered if he might have been facing something debilitating.
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Reply #179 posted 08/15/14 8:10am

JoeBala

jon1967 said:

Asking the tough qs is what some ppl do when family members pass on. Seems the media wants us to care like he was family.Damn right its cold leavn him the man was sick if this was a child thered be hell to pay n qs n more qs. If they dont want ppl askn then maybe reporting their deaths should be given no more speacial treatment. I dont see news ppl reporting everday ppl passin on what makes them any less important [Edited 8/14/14 16:48pm]

I know what you mean, but most of us grew up with the guy and felt like we knew him a bit and it's so hard to think he would end this way. I'm so touched by it and I know why. I think I'm more heartbroken by his demise than MJ. With MJ most of us knew it will end sadly, but with Williams a guy so lively all the time, no. It's always disheartning whenever anyone dies. Hugs to anyone going through this disease.

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