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Thread started 10/18/12 8:17pm

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How many hours of work do you do?

On an average day?

and do you get paid per hour or is it salaried?

The reason why I'm asking is because I'm on salary, which means I don't get paid for any overtime that I do. My boss also expects us to work 8 hours each day but they only pay us for 7.6 - he says it's because we are paid above the award.

Is this right? because I feel so annoyed that I have to work an extra half hour EACH day and not be paid for it. Why can't I just work 7.6 hours and they pay me more because I'm a valuable employee?

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Reply #1 posted 10/18/12 8:27pm

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FunkySideEffects said:

On an average day?

and do you get paid per hour or is it salaried?

The reason why I'm asking is because I'm on salary, which means I don't get paid for any overtime that I do. My boss also expects us to work 8 hours each day but they only pay us for 7.6 - he says it's because we are paid above the award.

Is this right? because I feel so annoyed that I have to work an extra half hour EACH day and not be paid for it. Why can't I just work 7.6 hours and they pay me more because I'm a valuable employee?

i work a odd schedule... one week its 36 hours(3 days a week) next week its 48 hours(4 days a week) but they are 12 hour shifts this dont include overtime... but when mandatory overtime hits they CANNOT force us to work over 56 hours unless we volunteer to do so... and i get paid hourly and bi-weekly .. i can understand the 7.6 hours u do they may not pay u for ur lunch break some places do this and some people and places u have to clock out for especially for salaried employees so imho ur place and hours sound pretty normal u are there everyday M-F correct and have every weekend off unless otherwise noted...i work every other weekend and my weekends are sat-mon( as stated above my schedule is pretty fuckered up lol) I know my schedule one year ahead of time as well.. i also been working at same place for 12 years now from 7pm-7am on the same shift

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Reply #2 posted 10/18/12 8:33pm

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I work on salary but somehow it is calculated like an hourly rate. It's weird but we are expected to work 40 hours a week and no overtime. They may give us 'compensatory" time (it's like vacation time) if we have to work on a weekend but then we have to take that time off within 30 days. They have flexible schedules which is cool, but I still prefer to work just 8 hours a day. But we are also allowed to take up to three hours a week to go to the gym. I love my job! lol

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Reply #3 posted 10/18/12 9:05pm

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I work for myself and invoice per hour, so I work anywhere between 0-14 hours per day.
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Reply #4 posted 10/18/12 9:56pm

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I'm salaried and I log 40hrs. per week but I easily add an additional 5-10hrs. extra just because of what I do... I also work really hard at NOT doing too much over...

I used to have a salaried job where I easily logged 60-70hrs a week. Then I did the math... figure out what you wind up earing per hour and see if you still want to go there...

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Reply #5 posted 10/18/12 9:56pm

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FunkySideEffects said:

On an average day?

and do you get paid per hour or is it salaried?

The reason why I'm asking is because I'm on salary, which means I don't get paid for any overtime that I do. My boss also expects us to work 8 hours each day but they only pay us for 7.6 - he says it's because we are paid above the award.

Is this right? because I feel so annoyed that I have to work an extra half hour EACH day and not be paid for it. Why can't I just work 7.6 hours and they pay me more because I'm a valuable employee?

Your have to have a contract where it says how many hours your work and what you salary is. Your boss just can't say you're being overpaid, that's why you have contracts.

It's strange when it comes to work, people expect other things than what's written in the contract.

Imagine I go to my housing coorperation and tell them I'll pay half of the rent from now because I think I pay too much each month.

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Reply #6 posted 10/18/12 11:12pm

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FunkySideEffects said:

On an average day?

and do you get paid per hour or is it salaried?

The reason why I'm asking is because I'm on salary, which means I don't get paid for any overtime that I do. My boss also expects us to work 8 hours each day but they only pay us for 7.6 - he says it's because we are paid above the award.

Is this right? because I feel so annoyed that I have to work an extra half hour EACH day and not be paid for it. Why can't I just work 7.6 hours and they pay me more because I'm a valuable employee?

If you are on salary, then how do you determine that you're only getting paid for 7.6 hours? I thought people on salary get paid based on a yearly amount, and work as much as necessary (which is generally based on an 40 hour work week)

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Reply #7 posted 10/18/12 11:21pm

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Depends, as of recent usually 10-12 hours a day on set & 9 hours on a day off set.

3 week's ago i worked 75 hours in a week0_0 lawd coffee was my best fucking friend that week lol

Sadly i am on salary & not hourly cause the film industry doesn't believe in hourly work eye

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Reply #8 posted 10/18/12 11:33pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

Depends, as of recent usually 10-12 hours a day on set & 9 hours on a day off set.

3 week's ago i worked 75 hours in a week0_0 lawd coffee was my best fucking friend that week lol

Sadly i am on salary & not hourly cause the film industry doesn't believe in hourly work eye

So... in that 75hr. work week what was your effective hourly rate?

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Reply #9 posted 10/18/12 11:51pm

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RenHoek said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Depends, as of recent usually 10-12 hours a day on set & 9 hours on a day off set.

3 week's ago i worked 75 hours in a week0_0 lawd coffee was my best fucking friend that week lol

Sadly i am on salary & not hourly cause the film industry doesn't believe in hourly work eye

So... in that 75hr. work week what was your effective hourly rate?

It was about 19.3

That was the most hours i have ever worked in a week so far, but it was worth it. And 19 an hour is not bad at all imo.

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Reply #10 posted 10/18/12 11:58pm

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robertlove said:



FunkySideEffects said:


On an average day?


and do you get paid per hour or is it salaried?



The reason why I'm asking is because I'm on salary, which means I don't get paid for any overtime that I do. My boss also expects us to work 8 hours each day but they only pay us for 7.6 - he says it's because we are paid above the award.



Is this right? because I feel so annoyed that I have to work an extra half hour EACH day and not be paid for it. Why can't I just work 7.6 hours and they pay me more because I'm a valuable employee?



Your have to have a contract where it says how many hours your work and what you salary is. Your boss just can't say you're being overpaid, that's why you have contracts.


It's strange when it comes to work, people expect other things than what's written in the contract.


Imagine I go to my housing coorperation and tell them I'll pay half of the rent from now because I think I pay too much each month.



I agree with what ur saying but the way my company looks at is that they've given me a certain % above the award which looks compensates for any overtime I do. It's supposed to be good 4 everyone: I get paid more so that if I'm ever required 2 work extra I'm covered & say if I work less i still get that extra pay - however, it's been the case 4 a while now that I'm working extra & extra and never less so I feel like I'm getting the raw end of the stick.
I guess what I'm basically saying is I want 2 work less & STILL be paid more.
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Reply #11 posted 10/19/12 2:24am

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In a manner of speaking, a salaried position is not pay for labour so much as for a skills set or realm of expertise, the efficiencies of which the onus is upon you to maximize.

If you are the right person for the job, the idea is that you will be worth the company's investment in you, completing the assigned duties during your salaried term and gradually identifying ways to accomplish those duties smarter, such that you have stable or increasing impact (as far as the company is concerned), but exert stable or decreasing work (as far as you are concerned). You may learn better time management, how to delegate, how to "kill two birds with one stone," how to get rid of certain pointless tasks, etc.

Keep in mind, too, that the company's investment in you is measured not only in gross pay. Presumably you also enjoy benefits, vacation time, professional development allowances, perks, the prestige of your position, etc. If you feel you're getting a raw deal, it may be time to renegotiate or move on.

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Reply #12 posted 10/19/12 2:55am

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I am a teacher. My contractual hours are from 8:15-3:30, but I arrive between 7:00 & 7:30, and sometimes I don't leave until 4 or later. In between, I manage/teach other people's children.

I grade papers and prepare plans in the evenings and on weekends...

(But people say that we don't work that hard! rolleyes)

I also work at Barnes and Noble part-time in the evenings or weekends, 5-10 or 5-12.

I get paid for 10 months by the School District.

I get paid by the hour at BN.

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Reply #13 posted 10/19/12 3:45am

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40 hours a week on salary with no overtime ever. If I have to work at night or on the weekend, then I have to take those hours that I worked off during normal work hours.

For the past few months, I've been working a lot of half days and leaving early. I've been there 14 years and I rarely ever took any vacation hours so I have over 700 built up. Recently, I found out that if I ever quit or retired, I would only get paid for about 250 of them so I've started taking a lot of the hours lately.

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Reply #14 posted 10/19/12 4:31am

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I am part time hourly, I work around 35 hours a week

I had a salary job as a store manager once, I was salaried for 50 hours, but it was my job to run the store: some weeks I worked 70 hours for no increase in pay

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Reply #15 posted 10/19/12 4:40am

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I am salaried, work for my own company and work for a charity.

I do surprisingly little work considering.

I work when I want to, get paid and spend it.

If you are looking for advice, raise a legitimate point with your boss and if they are negative, work less - they will soon ask to review your salary.

If they want comitment and hard work they neeed to recognise it and reward it. Alternatively, raise the concern and leave anyway.

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Reply #16 posted 10/19/12 4:41am

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I am salaried. Generally speaking, I should be working around 40 hours a week and in the office and available at the least between the hours of 8am-3pm. But there is not contract or hard, fast rule about how much time I am supposed to put in or what those hours of work should be. I need to get my work done and I can reasonably schedule myself around that.

If I were routinely putting in only 30 hours a week and folks noticed I was never available there would be a problem but if I get my work done and show up when I'm needed for meetings, my time is kinda my own.

I am someone who values my time outside of work far more than my work. It's extremely rare that I work over 40 hours in a week. Not that I wouldn't if it was warranted as an exception, but I set up that expectation and I finish what I need to in the hours I have. I also don't take on more than I can reasonably handle.

Of course, I've worked my way up to be able to do this.

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Reply #17 posted 10/19/12 5:54am

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I'm salaried and our work week is 40 hours, but by law, of course we are supposed to get at least 30 minutes for lunch. My new director seems fairly reasonable; as long as my work is done she doesn't mind if I'm 10 minutes late or leave a few minutes early. By the same token though, I am expected to stay a little longer if necessary to finish up something if need be.

If you are concerned that you aren't being paid properly, you could call the US Dept. of Labor. There are very strict laws in place to protect workers. Maybe he's paying you for 7.6 and considering the other time unpaid lunch? Also, do you know what your FLSA status is? It might be listed on your paychex. If it is "exempt" then you are most likely exempt from earning overtime pay. The train of thought being that exempt FLSA positions usually earn a higher wage so they are expected to put in extra time if needed. If it is non-exempt then the rules are very strict about how many hours you can work per week before you are required to get paid overtime.

At my first museum job, the HR woman would come around at 5:30pm and tell the non exempts to go home(!) - because the museum could get in a lot of trouble if we were working "overtime". At my previous (government) job my department manager expected us to put in extra hours all the time. We were only ever offered comp time (which I always joked didn't pay my bills) so imagine my anger when I found out inadvertantly from HR a few years later that the official policy was that we were first supposed to be paid time and a half and only given comp time if we requested it. Our manager had intentionally misled us. I was LIVID because our salaries were not high to begin with.

Because of that I make sure that I am not taken advantage of at my current job. I get there on time and leave promptly at quitting time. If they expect me to put in overtime, they need to pay me for it. : hmph!

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Reply #18 posted 10/19/12 6:26am

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FunkySideEffects said:

On an average day?

and do you get paid per hour or is it salaried?

The reason why I'm asking is because I'm on salary, which means I don't get paid for any overtime that I do. My boss also expects us to work 8 hours each day but they only pay us for 7.6 - he says it's because we are paid above the award.

Is this right? because I feel so annoyed that I have to work an extra half hour EACH day and not be paid for it. Why can't I just work 7.6 hours and they pay me more because I'm a valuable employee?

What you've described is quite common, at least in the US. I worked for an employer who had a 37.5 hour workweek, which meant hourly/non-exempt employees would work like 8:00 AM-4:00 PM and didn't get paid for a half hour lunch.

Salaried/exempt employees were told up front how many hours per week the job requires on a regular basis, usually an extra 30-60 minutes per day on average. And of course they will need to work even more hours during the busy time of the month or year.

So to answer your question, yeah your boss has the right to expect you to work more hours than your hourly coworkers. Your salary is based on the expectation that you'll work that extra half hour per day. There is no overtime or official timekeeping for exempt employees. Whether you work 6 hours in a day or 10 hours you still get paid the same amount for that day, but I wouldn't recommend working less than 8 hours a day too often because your boss won't tolerate it.

Salaries aren't based on the value of the employee, they are based on the position. Everybody is a valued employee, otherwise why pay someone who doesn't have value?

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Reply #19 posted 10/19/12 6:46am

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I'm hourly, and I used to work about 5 - 10 hours of overtime a week.

That's stopped since I got an assistant.

And my actual "work" done is 40hrs a week minus the 10 hours I kill on the Org. boxed

I'm so getting fired...

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I am on salary and I recently figured out that I work an average of 7.5 hrs extra a week that I am not paid for. That's a day's pay.

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Reply #21 posted 10/19/12 7:24am

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In a manner of speaking, a salaried position is not pay for labour so much as for a skills set or realm of expertise, the efficiencies of which the onus is upon you to maximize.

If you are the right person for the job, the idea is that you will be worth the company's investment in you, completing the assigned duties during your salaried term and gradually identifying ways to accomplish those duties smarter, such that you have stable or more impact (as far as the company is concerned), but exert stable or less work (as far as you are concerned). You may learn better time management, how to delegate, how to "kill two birds with one stone," how to get rid of certain pointless tasks, etc.

Keep in mind, too, that the company's investment in you is measured not only in gross pay. Presumably you also enjoy benefits, vacation time, professional development allowances, perks, the prestige of your position, etc. If you feel you're getting a raw deal, it may be time to renegotiate or move on.

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Very well put. This is exactly how it is at my company. We are all paid very well and the expectations are high.

Of course, there are those that don't pull their weight and seem to get away with it, but in most cases they eventually get let go. In todays workforce you always have to be prepared to learn more and do more. You can't rest on laurels. You have to learn how to manage your time so you can go home at a reasonable time each day.

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JustErin said:

I am on salary and I recently figured out that I work an average of 7.5 hrs extra a week that I am not paid for. That's a day's pay.

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I used to be salary, but I made a point of making it known that because I sometimes stayed late, they couldn't dock me whenever I would come in a little late in the morning. Salary is usually a give-&-take.

I forced the issue and became hourly when they wanted me to work on a Saturday without getting paid for it.

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Salary.

The contract says I have to book 40 or more a week but I can do some of it where I want just

as long as the hours get billed/ the work is being done and I am getting results.

So, I try to be in by 9:00 am but I am all over the place with that.

Sometimes I leave after 7pm, sometimes at 3pm, sometimes I don't come in at all.

I am very lucky that my partner is super flexable about these things smile

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Reply #24 posted 10/20/12 9:41pm

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LadyCasanova said:

Salary.

The contract says I have to book 40 or more a week but I can do some of it where I want just

as long as the hours get billed/ the work is being done and I am getting results.

So, I try to be in by 9:00 am but I am all over the place with that.

Sometimes I leave after 7pm, sometimes at 3pm, sometimes I don't come in at all.

I am very lucky that my partner is super flexible about these things smile

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Reply #25 posted 10/20/12 10:09pm

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I get paid hourly. My job requires mandatory overtime so I typically work at least 10 hour days. Sometimes 11. I get paid overtime however my regular wage is horrible, a $6 pay cut per hour than my last job. Even though my body and mind is getting burnt out on the overtime, it does bring my paycheck up to what i used to make.

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